Genetics and Homeopathy

[Irene de Villiers]

I think the important part is "WITHOUT modification of DNA".

DNA is part of the innate constitutioal type (ICT) of every individual of every species.
The ICT types do not just apply to humans. They apply equally - and in the SAME ways - to animals.
The word "constitution" is important to retain as it has the correct meaning, that of the CONSTITUENTS of the individual, the things that make up that individual, or the ingredients of the individual that WILL be there - PREDICTABLE - as part of their basic makeup - ALWAYS.

Diseases are not predictable or always there, ansd th ey vary by species, unlike ICT types.
Diseases are not therefore a constituent of any ICT.

The constituents of an ICT are a well defined set, and that set applies to all people and all animals of all species with that particular set of inherited features.

A disease is NOT a feature of an individual or of a type or category of individual ... inherited or otherwise.
A disease is merely a mistunement that is potentially possible for the individual, wheras ICT features are ALWAYS there in ALL members of that ICT in ALL species.

It is a mistake to graft any disease onto a constitutional type, regardless what kind of disease it is, acute, chronic or miasm.
To do so would be trying to make that disease an integral component of ALL members of that type, whatever species they belong to. That literally is NOT the case and can not be the case. It is an impossibility. .
The diseaes and miasms of different species are NOT the same - that alone precludes putting miasms into a ICT or core type.
No disease is automatically a part of the costitutioal makep of any idividual of any species.
No individual will automatically get ANY disease to wich s ICT may be predisposed.

Diseases are only POTENTIAL mistunements for an ICT type, not things that WILL occur = not features always present - thus NOT constitutional or ICT or Core features.
Those innate features need to apply to ALL members - in ALL species, who share the ICT.

At least Three categories of diseases are possible:
Acute, chronic, and miasm. (Add poisonings, injuries, nutritional errors, physical and mental damage, etc)
Each has specific mechanisms by which an individual acquires the illness or damage - it is all damage of some kind - and each has specific mechanisms by which an individual gets rid of the disease/damage.
BUT in all cases, the disease is a potential temporary visitor to mistune the basic or core or ICT type.

The diseases that can do this vary by species.
ANd they will continune to vary as man invents new ways to cause damage/illness.
But while those can vary, the ICT can not vary - not in any species. It is a fixed set of traits that is ALWAYS inherited by that ICT.

A disease such as a miasm, or any disease, is NOT always inherited by that ICT, so it cannot be PART of the set list of inherited traits which is fixed for the ICT.
We know now that miasms are aquired diseases that affect epigene switches, and are passed on to offspring, NOT in the genes, not in ther DNA but only as a part of tissue damage to do with access to a gene, and which has yet to be fixed.
Diseases are by definition things that went wrong that have yet to be fixed. Things that go wrong are NOT part of an ICT, they are possible (not definite) events that COULD happen to an ICT - of any species.

That some are stuck in place from one generation to another, does not change that principle.
The ICT or core individual EXCLUDES diseases, and is the definition of the combined inherited traits that ALL members of the ICT of ALL species, do inherit.
They can inherit PREDISPOSITIONS - not diseases.
SO a predisposition to a disease (acute, chronic or miasm) can be included in an ICT's characteristics, but never an actual disease. Actual diseases are not inherited. Mechanisms (caused by damage of some kind) to cause illness can be inherited, not the disease result.

Even when a miasm switch is in an unwanted position - it is a predisposition - NOT a disease.
The disease is what occurs when that switch allows a response of bad protein manufacture.
The switch positions of all the epigenes WILL be passed down as pre-set predispositions - beneficial or otherwise - but not as diseases.

Joe writes:
This is just another example of how epigene switch positions are passed to offspring in whatever position they happen to be when sperm are made.
There is NO effect on the DNA.
NO disease is passed down.
Only the epigene switch position is passed down - the predisposition to a specific use of a specific gene.
NO we can not say that.
There is no change of the basic makeup or constitution of the individual.
A dsease predispostion - damage to the individual and not a core type/ICT change - was set up during their lifetime and that will be passed to offspring.
It is not a change of the basic constitution or innate constitutional type.
It is just that BY CHANCE this individual got a miasm disease (caused by damage to them), but that is not PART of them, it is merely damage that needs to be addressed.
Nothing is transmitted.
Damage is there when caused, till it is fixed.
"Transmitted" implies a mechanism to pass down a trait, and there is none.
The damage done to the epigene layer merely remains in the epigene layer. There is no "transmission mechanism".

A switch positon was set a particlar way, and stays that way till unswitched. That includes staying that way from one generation to another.But it is not PART of the iCT - it is a superimposed damage/disease.
ALL diseases are superimposed, and are not part of every ICT of that name, much less can they apply as needed to all species of t hat ICT. That miasm diseases continue to the next generation, Hahnemann knew, and now modern science also knows - but they are still diseases - damage to a system, not PART of the system - so not part of the Innate Constitutional Type (applicable to ALL species, despite that they have DIFFERENT miasms for the SAME ICT.)

You can not define core or ICT or remedy - for just the "humans with a particular miasm". There would be no logic to that. The ICT is the UN-Changeale aspect of the remedy/ICT/Core - the diseases/damage, cross-generational or otherwise, are not part of it, as they do not occur in ALL memebrs of ALL species that have that ICT. They are not passed down as innate inherited characteristics in all of that ICT's memebrs.

ALL three disease types can be added and can be subtracted from an individual.
ONLY their potential predisposition can be considered an aspect of an ICT. No disease/damage can be part of an ICT. It is a transient (short term or long term but transient) mistunement of the vital force, not part of the makeup of the idividual.
There is no integration of any form of disease into the DNA of any life form.
It is barking up the wrong tree to suggest it.
(We discussed this mistake at length before)
External effects can affect the HEALTH of an individual with a specific ICT (by acute, chronic or miasm disease) but can not change their innate constitutional type - the category of remedy to which they belong - regardless what kind of disease/s they acquire. The disease itself canot be part of that type defintion whatever you call it.
A Phos type of ANY species will remain that way regardless whether they get one or more of the three kinds of diseases - or any other health issues - like poisoning, nutritional deficieinces or excesses, etc.

The health adverse effects are superimposed onto the ICT - they are not part of it - and they last till cured, whether the superimposed issues are injury by poioning, nutrition, acute illness, chronic illness, mental illness or miasmatic epigene switch mechanism damage or physical damage.
Essentially all the forms of health issues are DAMAGE to the ICT, not PART of the ICT.
He was, but nothing he said would make a health issue part of an ICT or core type.
What he recognized is that at least one kind of possible predisposed disease (miasm) could last beyond the lifetime of a specific individual. That does not make it a PART of the individual's category type, just a health damage issue they happen to have a predispositon to get - or not - depending on their life circumstances.
Hahnemann saw there were acutes, chronics and miasms as possible health mistunements. At no time did he suggest that individuals of all species became something else - permanenetly different from any type they had before - in the process.

We need to see diseases (acute, chronic or miasms) in context - as predispositions to which specific ICTs MAY be predisposed till the disease is cured - and that this applies to ALL species as they ALL share the ICT types.
But they do NOT share all disease predispositions, whether acute, chronic or miasm (with some exceptions).
So ICT or Core remedy cannot include diseases - only possible predispositions, by species.
Bird miasms do not happen to affect llamas. Syphilis does not happen to affect many species either. But birds, llamas, people, pigs, lizards and elephants, all have the SAME ICTs as people and get DIFFERENT diseases of all three types.
Miasms are just another form of disease or damage, one that can span more than a generation in any species - as Hahnemann said. It is not more complicated than that.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

A great number of things can damage the epigene layer of a person - causing a disease that lasts there till it is repaired.
I see all forms of disease as damage to the body.
It can be chemical, physical, infectious, miasmatic (affecting epigene switches), mental damage, nutritional, etc, but it is all just some kind of damage to the inherited traits that make up the constituents of an individual.
OR
....essentially "damage to the ICT" of the individual.
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Bob Needham]

I have to agree with you on this one Joe.
I have personally like the work of Lockie and Geddes, wherein I find that our Constitution Profile is a blend of 2 - 4 Dominate so called Key remedies. These remedies have been found to be very dominant in a vast majority of the populace. From a personal exploration I have discovered that many of the profiles found in these 2 - 4 Dominate remedies satisfy for the most part, the make up of the patient when in a state of health. This is what I call their "Constitutional Profile", which will also highlight their anatomical vulnerabilities. In turn this Profile can provide clues to possible predispositions and susceptibilities that can assist in remedy selection, whether it be one of their Dominate states or otherwise.
So if I have it right then, our Constitutional Profile, being a blended mix from our inherited Genome is open to the Epigenetic thinking. Wherein the emotional, physical and mental challenges encountered in life can, depending on the intensity of the "trauma", leave us with a change in the Dominant Profile state. This is where I have used and see some remarkable results following Rudi Verspoor's approach with sequential therapy; wherein, one treats the traumas associated with the current vital force's disorder. Somewhere, many moons ago I read about societies that had suffered from starvation. It was observed that the grand children had a marked tendency to be obese. It was as if the second generation's genome was saying, beef up before the next famine comes.
Bottom line from my perspective, is that we all have a base Constitutional Profile that is firmly genetically imprinted. On the other hand, It can be temporarily or perhaps permanently altered in some degree by the severity of the trauma, thus being allowed to pass on to future generations.
Bob

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

I seem to remember it was, but to my recollection no mechanism was given as an explanation....maybe this is one...

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD]

Do you have a reference to Lockie and Geddes' work? I would love to read that.

Thanks,

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

[Bob Needham]

I have their book, "Homeopathy The Principles and Practice of Treatment", wherein they provide descriptions of what they call the Remedy Profile. I can not find an ISBN number; it is 240 pages. They also include a questionnaire that I used that led me to develop what I have termed the Homeopathic "Constitutional Profile". This Constitutional Profile is my term based on the interpretation of their work. Thus you will find nothing in their book that enters into a further explanation of such.

I have to also agree with Irene on the ICT , which as she says is fixed and diseases are only a potential mistunements for an ICT type. It is in the ITC where I also believe the real susceptibilities and predispositions to morbific influences are to be found. As such, my Homeopathic "Constitutional Profile" is for me, a reflection of the character of the ITC, directly interpreted into a Homeopathic Remedy profile which I have found helpful in allowing me to view these mistunements in a homeopathic spectrum.

Hope this is helpful

Bob

[Shannon Nelson]

Does the "constitutional profile" consist of, or lead to, a *group* of remedies which constitute a pool of "most likely" remedies that the person might need, as "life happens"? Or is it something else?

Shannon

[Bob Needham]

Hi Shannon;

No not specifically, but for me it acts as a good cross reference to common mental, emotional and physical traits as well the most venerable anatomical systems. It's just good background material. You still are required to take the symptom picture and treat according to the law of similarity.

Bob

[Maria Bohle]

If we suspect a certain constitutional type couldn't we also make a good case for a compatible remedy - one that complements or follows well after?

Maria

[Bob Needham]

Good thought Maria - My blood hound genetics has had me always following the trail of the symptom picture.

Bob