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Tanya Marquette
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veterinary question

Post by Tanya Marquette »

i am dealing with a 15 yr old female cat who has some troublesome sx.
one of them is periodic screaming. her crying/screaming is like a terrorized
baby--it scares people when they hear it over the phone. i came across a
rubric MIND, SHRIEKING-brain cry. can anybody explain this rubric? radar
indicates this rubric is of especial interest to vets.

tanya

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Joy Lucas
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Joy Lucas »

Apis has this (as an example) and it is from serous inflammation of the
brain with effusion - this is seen in cases of meningitis and
hydrocephalus. For other rx in this rubric it could be due to or
accompany convulsions, head injury, intense pain (emotional reaction)
or toxic poisoning etc - but I am not a vet and just answering from a
homeopathic point of view. Best wishes, Joy
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Tanya Marquette
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Tanya Marquette »

yes, toxic poisoning. an animal communicator told me that the cat
has a stomach pain in an area the size of a quarter. it has buringing
pain and there is an excess of acidity of the stomach. she thought
the episodes of screaming were "absentee seizures" akin to momenty
attacks where she loses track of where she is, who she is, etc. and it
is very frightening to her. this animal communicator thought it was due
to toxicity in her system. i had taken her case, as best i could, and gave
her nat mur LM1. her eating improved for a while as did her isolating
behavior. even the screaming episodes diminished. however, she is
not eating well again. so when i came across this rubric of shrieking-
brain cry, it seemed pregnant with possibilities. i will read up on the
other rx in this rubric.

thanks so much. i always get so much from your responses.

tanya
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Hi Tanya,
Do you have a description of the cat's appearance and behavior before,
during and after the screaming episodes?
Shannon


Tanya Marquette
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Tanya Marquette »

shannon,

usually the episodes occur when she is alone. they start with a low cry
which
escalates into a yowl. on one or two occasions i have seen her at the
beginning
of an attack. she will stop walking, stand still and the crying begins.
what
alters the attack is hearing my voice. i often have to yell at her to break
through
her reality. if she hears my voice, it seems to break the spell and she
returns to
her normal reality. the animal communicator said she felt embarassed by
these
episodes. i am concerned about the issue of toxicity and how it is working
in
her brain. if this is the source of the attacks, then it implies to me that
there is
a surge of some sort of biochemical reaction which i dont understand. if
they
episodes occur for another reason, i need to begin to understand those
possibilities as well. i feel at a loss to where to get information

tanya


Shannon Nelson
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Shannon Nelson »

Thanks Tanya,
Hm... What's she like outside of the attacks, and what do you know of
her history?
E.g. when did the attacks begin and is there any hint of what
precipitated, but also I wonder what she was like as a kitten, and
etc.? How would you describe her if the crying episodes were not
there, but only the behavior and personality "around" them?

From the way that I've understood "brain cry" (and I am NOT confident
in my understanding of it; only offer that FWIW) I don't think one
*could* break thru to the person (cat) at all; I understand it as being
entirely reflex. I wonder if her situation is something like delusion,
hallucination, panic attack, something like that? Which could also be
toxicity related but would (I think) bring up a different group of
remedies to consider.

Any thought where the toxicity might have come from--external or
internal, chronic or acute, etc.?

Shannon


Joy Lucas
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Joy Lucas »

I think the first thing to ascertain is whether this is an emotional
situation - literally yowling for attention to know that someone is
nearby (for whatever reason), or if there is any brain pathology such
as a tumour or maybe petit mal type situation.

Another consideration is that she is going deaf and hence the louder
yowling and you needing to yowl back at her to get her to realise you
are nearby :-)

Maybe try and test her hearing to rule that out or in. Best wishes, Joy

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Tanya Marquette
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Tanya Marquette »

hi shannon,

i will answer your last questioning first. she seems to have stomach
problem like an ulcer. the animal communicator described it as
covering an area the size of a quarter. it is very burning. there is
also excess acidity. this communicator thought it was the cause of the
toxicity which is affecting the brain. i would guess the toxins build up
and end in these episodes. but hearing my voice seems to help bring
her back into reality and she simply stops the screaming and functions
normally.
the animal communicator called them absentee seizures.

as to her personality--yes, she has been mine since about 4 wks of age. she
was
abandonned on my doorstep--probably because i had a slew of cats at that
time.
she was always a mixture of sweet mush and ornery independence. when about
5 yrs old, she had a case of rodent ulcer on her lips which was treated
successfully homeopathically.
flea allergies were horrific for many years till i gave her nat mur which
has
minimized the condition considerably. it also helped deal with her grief
and a
number of other sx that developed when my next to last cat died about 4 yrs
ago now. she was very connected to this cat as a mother figure and had a
real
hard time reconnecting with me without this other cat there. we had about
6 mos of readjusting during which she played dead on me, developed a huge
white canker type sore in her upper pallette, flea allergy was excessive and
a number
of other physical sx which i can't recall at the moment. she had gum
inflammation
which ultimately ended with a couple of her incisors falling out.

eating has been a problem on and off for reasons related to that oral
canker, her
gums being inflammed and most recently this stomach condition. i changed
her
diet recently to raw, organic protein. she really loved the raw chopped
meat
but after a few days was throwing it up. she has tolerated mainly raw egg
and
was eating as many as 4-5/day. but now she is backing off from eating them.
i have also given her some prepared turkey (applegate brand). she generally
tolerates it well but on occasion will throw it up. yesterday i gave her
the raw
heart of the organic turkey that was being prepared and later she ate a bit
of the
cooked turkey and tolerated it. she drinks a lot of water which started the
past
2-3 months. i am assuming it cools her stomach. milk agg the 'ulcer'--in
much
the same way that i think it agg humans with ulcers.

unrelated to the organic probems she has arthritis which was probably
brought on
by several falls from my balcony throughout her younger and more obstinate
years.
she liked to sit on this 4" railing, but would lose her balance and fall,
sometimes 12'
down to the floor below. she really hit herself hard one time that i recall
and that most
likely caused some injury to her lower back/hip area. that pain is
generally dull and
agg by damp weather. she has difficulty jumping up onto things, the higher
the jump,
the harder it it for her. i think she is embarassed by the unsuccessful
attempts.
i had treated her with merc for a while which helped until she began to
prove the rx.
most recently i have used low level laser on her which seems to lessen the
disability
temporarily. i dont give her treatments too frequently due to her
unwillingness to stay
still.

she likes to sit next to me and is very possessive of her seat on the couch.
she will
sleep on me for hours if i sleep on the couch, under a blanket. for some
reason she
is not comfortable sitting on my lap unless i have a blanket on me. when
she was
feeling worse, she slept upstairs, alone a lot. now she stays downstairs in
the living
space more and i take this to mean she is feeling a bit better. she loves to
have her
throat scratched and will be quite demanding to have this done. i have
often referred
to her as my teenaged brat--likes to take, but doesnt give much. for
example, she
would allow my 'mother' cat to groom her and midwife her, but never returned
the
behavior. she rarely ever licks me. but she is very gentle. she will blink
at me which
i understand to be a cat expression of caring. if she is startled/scared
suddenly she may stike at me, but will then make immediate ammends by giving
me
a quick short lick. usually if she is annoyed she will jump away. when
other animals
come into the house she ignores them. she allows strange cats to come in
and eat
her food or sleep in the house. mice are just part of the house from her
point of view
although she would mouse outdoors when younger. when talking with the animal
communicator she said my cat didnt know that i wanted her to catch mice in
the house.
but as with most 'children' she never changed her behavior having been given
that
request to begin to do this. she will warm up to some people very quickly
but with
others it takes her a long time. she is not comfortable with children,
mainly because
they are so tentative about touching her but also rambunctious in their
wildness. i
have a new 9 yr old in our family that spends time in my house. the cat was
very
wary of her for quite some time. however, she finally decided to reclaim
her seat on
the couch despite the child's presence and is beginning to make peace with
the child's
attempts to pet her. when she was younger she would really yell at you when
she
wanted something. i think i could say she was my smallest cat, but the
loudest.
it used to make me nuts the way she would sit and scream at me when i was
getting
her food. thank goodness nat mur calmed that behavior down. now she is much
more modest about letting me know i am not responding fast enough. being an
outside cat, her way of knocking to be let in was to jump onto a window
sill,
clinging with her front paws and screaming with a big open mouth till i
opened the
front door to let her in. i called her monster mouth when she did that
because that
is how it felt looking at her. so she really has a bit of the hysterical in
her nature.
i think i gave her nit ac when she had the rodent ulcer due to an
unforgiving aspect
to her personality. she had gotten caught in the door about 3x when a
kitten and
became frightened to pass through the door when she wanted to go out. it
was
quite a ritual to watch her run in a huge circle all around the house before
she would
charge through the door as if running a gauntlet. the nit ac minimized this
craziness
considerably as well.

well, this is actually a long answer to your question. there is so much
personality
in our 4 legged friends! have fun with this one.

tanya


Tanya Marquette
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Re: veterinary question

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i have thought about the issue of deafness. when i clap at her
or call her, she seems to hear and respond. do you know of any
state where hearing is temporarily and momentarily lost?
i guess i have been working with the diagnosis of this animal communicator
who is
a medical intuitive. i think i have more confidence in her than the
allopathic vets in the area. they are so bad, despite their pleasant
personas. she did say it was like an epileptic seizure without the physical
spasms--more like an aura. but she thought it was from a build up of
toxicity. do you know anything about this?

and i have thought about the need for attention. the problem with this
idea is the suddenness of onset and the terror in her voice. she also
has other means to gain attention which she uses with ease; ie, sitting
next to me while i work, sitting on my desk while i am working ( a
cat favorite); rubbing her head into my hand when she wants to be
petted/scratched. i keep coming back to that horrible sound of fear
and terror. several others have heard her when she goes into these
states and they describe it like a baby that is terrorized.

tanya
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Joy Lucas
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Re: veterinary question

Post by Joy Lucas »

Momentary loss can occur during seizures as opposed to longer but
temporary loss of hearing during an ear infection or perforated eardrum
- which is why I mentioned brain tumours.

If it is from toxicity you need to look for other signs. Plumbum for
example has 'screams, from time to time' and maybe there is some lead
poisoning going on. Plumbum also has 'lightening pains that can extort
cries'. Perhaps check this rx out to gather other possible signs she
might have - if serious it will be progressive.

How do you know about the stomach acid is this being intuited also or
are there more obvious signs of this?

As I said think the first thing is to discover whether this is
physical or emotional. Hope useful, best wishes, Joy
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