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A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 3:53 pm
by x1x17
An aquaintance and his wife were called to a meeting with their
childs teacher. It seems their young daughter (six years old)i s
"stimulating" herself in the class room by shaking on the edge of the
chair. Apparently this gets to the point where she is disrupting the
other children during reading group as the whole table shakes. Her
father has said that when she was
about two years old she used to straddle the legs of chairs and
stimulate herself by sliding up and down. He assumed it was just a
child thing and would pass. ( Just to make it clear, this young girl is
stimulatiing herself at her genital area). I have had little time with
the child and she seems for the most part to be well adjusted young
girl. Considering. Her parents are constatly battling each other.
(Verbally). She is literally in a war zone. If you've seen War Of The
Roses, this is it sans the physical violence. They have the idea that
they are going to stick the marraige out for the childs sake. Wih what
I know of the parents taking a case from them is pretty much out of the
question. Its going to be what I can glean from my own observations. I
would very much like to help this lovely young girl. I wonder if it
would be wise to attempt to prescribe on these very limiited symptoms.
One thing I have noticed about the father is that he does tend to
"shake" his foot in a nervous type of way from time to time. Yet I
can't help but beleive that part of her stimulating is an attempt to
deal with this conflict she is raised in. Any ideas, suggestions wou ld
be welcome.
Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 8:04 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dear Rich? (you didn't leave your name),
Are you saying that the parents are asking you to treat this child? If so
then take the case. It might be better to do so with only one parent there
or with another family member/friend who knows the situation well. If not
then you are not really in a position to intervene. Begin the case with an
open mind and do not assume any aetiology. Her reasons for doing this could
be anything. If it is the conflict between her parents you have a
maintaining cause that will have to be taken into consideration.
I have a lot of children in my practice and actually find them very 'easy'
to treat because they are too young to know how to 'hide' things! However
you need to be child friendly - interact with the child, reach out to them
naturally - link up to what they might be interested in - connect with them
and they will give you all the info you need to prescribe. Be kind,
considerate, make jokes with them and OBSERVE. Whoever brings the child to
you must be able to fill in any necessary info (don't talk about the sexual
stimulation in front of the child unless they want to t alk about it). You
need a full case taking as with any other situation.
Meanwhile add to your knowledge by reading up on Origanum (sweet marjoram
for a sweet little girl???) + Hyoscyamus + Cantharis + Platina + Zincum Met.
etc
Good luck and best wishes, Joy Lucas RSHom
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Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 10:32 pm
by Beverly Shamon
Apart from looking for a particular homeopathic remedy and engaging the
mentals, it is quite possible that she has food sensitivities and/or a yeast
infection.
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Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 11:22 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Some young children of both sexes masturbate.
There could be many reasons for this - itching in the vulva is one.
However, if there is no itching or inflammation, then the problem is deeper
rooted.
And it looks as if we may have a maintaining cause. It is funny how children
do things to stop the parents fighting.
(If the parents are staying together for the sake of the child, I think they
are making a mistake!)
Unless there are other significant symptoms, one needs a deeper case taking
to come up with remedies.
Other questions like how she dresses when alone and her mode of behaviour
towards adults - especially males would be of interest.
Rgds
Soroush
Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2001 6:57 pm
by Anouk Lepage
Hello,
taking,obviously) would be "FEMALE;MASTURBATION,disposition to". There are
sub-rubrics such as: "from itching of vulva"(Zinc.) and "in young
people"(Carc.). Other remedies that might be looked into include Staph.,
Orig., Plat. and Nat-m.
Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 1:04 am
by Katharina Menzi Pantermarakis
I think there are not some , but many children that masturbate. It's known
from psychology, that allready little children have sexuality, though not in
a adult way. Not only little boys are playing with their penis, but also
little girls find out ways to stimulate themselves. For me in this case the
strange thing is, that the girl does make it in school. Such a behaviour you
see often in mentally retarded children, normal intelligent children have
learned not to make it in public. Surely it depends on the reaction of the
parents, from them the child learns how to deal with sexuality.
Katharina Menzi
Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 11:04 am
by Joy Lucas
Dear Katharina - this comes without prejudice or malice but I have to
comment on some choice of words here. Firstly categorising this sexual
behaviour with what you call "mentally retarded" children. This term should
have been banished decades ago along with the assumption that "this
behaviour is often seen in them...."
Secondly, since when have "intelligent" children been the only children who
are "normal?"
If one begins a case with such words of prejudice how can you complete it
without prejudice. Please choose words carefully.
Without prejudice, Joy Lucas.
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Re: A Lovely Young Girl
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2001 3:45 pm
by Katharina Menzi Pantermarakis
Dear Joy
Excuse me, when I did not chose the right words to explain, what I wnted to
say. I live in Switzerland, my mother language is German and not English and
therefore it's not easy for me to express myself and i don't know which
terms are politicaly correct. The reproach of prejudice is hurting me. I was
writing my quote because it seemed me, there were many prejudices in other
mails about the sexual behaviour of children. I was working for some years
in psychiatrical clinics and was allways shocked, when some older doctors
didn't see the patients as personalities any more , but only as people with
disease labels. In the somatic medicine it was not better. Therefore I was
allways looking for something else, something you don' only see or the
psychopathology or the somatical pathology of people, but the whole person.
So I come to Homeopathy, the first steps making 20 years before, then leting
it beside and now, with more life expirience, coming back to it.
When I needed the terminology " mentally retarded" I didn't mean it in an
detoriating way. Would it be more correct to say "intellectually
handicapated"? I am very much aware of questions about normal or not normal.
I myself am mother of a child, who in the eyes of most of others is not 100%
normal and have defiecency labels as POS(Psychoorganic syndrom, a terminus
you need only in Switzerland any more), Attention deficit Syndrom or child
with autistic traits...With a few words: I don't see myself as someone with
a specially narrow view about normality.
Excuse my bad English, but I hope you understand what I wanted to say.
Katharina Menzi