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				Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:27 pm
				by CLBernat
				Cannot seem to find information for px with infection (culture shows  
pseudomonas) trapped in right ear.  Strictly right-sided. No  additional pathology.  
Infection is draining very slowly as ear canal is  swollen, red, very painful, 
and inflamed.  Fluid can be  heard when ear is manipulated.  Worse in open 
air and worse with  cold.  Deep seated infection of very long duration.  Very 
gentle  person.  Tired and weak from constant pain. Dry mouth.   Allopathic 
treatment consisted of antibiotics without results.   Have used Puls to no avail.  
Sil didn't help either.  Any suggestions  would be very welcome. 
Dr. Carol Bernat
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 3:19 pm
				by Soroush Ebrahimi
				Hi
The symptoms you have given are no fully descriptive, but based on:
EAR - INFLAMMATION - Meatus
EAR - WATER; sensation of - in ear
MOUTH - DRYNESS
MIND - MILDNESS
SULPHUR is indicated.
Please check MM and if suitable for your pt prescribe it.
I would recommend 30 c in 200 ml water. Success 10 time before every dose
and repeat every 15 minutes until a change is achieved. Stop after 5th dose
and review.
Good luck
Soroush
			 
			
					
				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:49 pm
				by Joy Lucas
				Could be any one of many rx and you don't say what type of pain and 
where it extends to but the fact that she bears her pain without 
complaining makes me think of the Belladonna and Calcarea carbonica 
connection. Now that it has become a long standing acute/chronic state 
and she is worn out  by it suggests Calcarea to me.
Best wishes, Joy
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 10:05 pm
				by muthu kumar
				How about Hepar sulph - ? Any other recurrent infections? Other chronic complaints? Had 
it before? Any symptoms from then? Lying on the painful side < or any 
change? What are the exact words patient uses to describe the pain and 
fluid in ear?
In future you might need Tuberculinum and probably Syphilinum.
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additional pathology.  
painful, 
open 
duration.  Very 
Allopathic 
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:12 pm
				by Shannon Nelson
				What is it that brings syphilinum to mind?
Shannon
			 
			
					
				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 11:30 pm
				by Joy Lucas
				Or even tuberculinum - how is this kind of guess work supposed to help? 
Joy
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 1:55 am
				by muthu kumar
				well it just struck my vital sensation that it might be the 
medicine -
you know like one of the delusions that afflict viruses...
I get this wooly feeling due to my chakras spinning like crazy and I 
feel like Edgar Cayce and I drop to sleep.
if you do not like my "guess work" well- throw it in the garbage  - 
it is as good as Bell or Calc  for all I know...
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:45 am
				by muthu kumar
				Shannon-
Thanks for reading my response and enquiring in a civilized manner as 
against other responses. First of all - all the remedies I suggested 
were only "suggestions". I did not see the case and all of us who 
respond are only taking shots in the dark, If someone thinks the 
remedy that they suggested is not a guess but an air-tight 
prescription - esp. since the symptoms are so few and  very undefined 
or pathological - they need a psychiatrist for they are suffering from 
some manic disorder.
If I were to give a nosode for this case ( a chronic infection with 
discharge with or without corrosiveness involved) what will it be? 
Whenever there is something involving liquids, fluid collection I will 
think about Tuberculinum.
My Professor of Medicine used to say that whenever there is any 
chronic presentation( infections, pains etc) the first thing we should 
think of is Tuberculosis, the second tuberculosis and the third also 
tuberculosis. Only then other Differential diagnosis  should be 
considered.
The homeopath who had treated the case has come up with Pulsatilla and 
Silicea for treatment. Both are tubercular in my perspective. though 
Puls has sycosis in it - I have found so much tubercular running in 
it. Other responses  for the case were  Calc and (I had ) Ars.iod  and 
what would I think to follow this up with if I needed an intercurrent. 
The first thing would be Tuberculinum/ Here the patient is tired, has 
a chronic infection, fluid collections ( and Tuberculinum has 
persistent otorrhea) and so I would lean towards Tuberculinum. 
Syphilinum is kind of deep acting Tuberculinum.
I also have Hepar sulph as one of the suggestions, Merc. comes up 
freq, Merc.dulcis as well, I might think about Syphilinum as 
well.Tellurium is also anti-syphilitic if you consider its 
symptomatology. 
Of course you can also consider my suggestion - " guess work"...
( can you imagine any prescription in homeopathy where some guess work 
is not involved. The doctor who prescribed Puls or Silicea to this 
case- was that not guess work in hind sight. How many of us have 100% 
cure rate in 100% cases? If we are not capable of curing 100% of our 
cases we have guessed in the remaining cases. Homeopathy - by 
definition - can only be a guessing medicine. That is the beauty of 
it... otherwise we would be "scientific" and meet Randy in all his 
rants)This is because we are trying to match remedies whose 
symptomatology mostly never developed actual pathologies , to 
pathological conditions, our matching of such a generally non-
pathological materia medica to diverse pathology - must be a guessing 
game for most of the people - except for some highly intelligent and 
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:10 pm
				by CLBernat
				In future you might need Tuberculinum and probably  Syphilinum.
It was not my intension to arouse such a vigorous discussion.  My  search was 
for rubics that described actual fluid/pus trapped in the ear canal,  which I 
couldn't find.  I could find "sensation of fluid" but this is  beyond 
sensation.  The trapped pseudomonas infection is the  pathologogy.
This px has suffered with this pseudomonas infection for 4 years  now.  Lots 
and lots of cultures and select antibiotics.  The  pseudomonas did yield to 
antibiotics but returned when the course was  finished.  I thought of sul, calc, 
hep, lyc, ars, and bell  too.  The SRP is that she has no other pathological 
symptoms except for the  right ear.  Plus she has a minimal amount of tartar 
on her teeth  only on the right side.  On the left side of her mouth her teeth 
are  clean.  She is/has been of cheerful disposition except for the  pain of 
the right ear. She sleeps on the right side.  Worse for cool and  open air, 
makes the ear itch and burn.  Cold weather/cold wind sends  her into agony with 
the ear aching. The discharge is greenish yellow and  thick.  The smell is that 
of an abcessed tooth, sweet/salty/fetid.  Other times the discharge it is 
almost clear when the ear canal is  swollen closed and only serum can leak out.  
The meatus is red, hot, and  moist.  The discharge excoriates.  I've studied 
this for hours  and hours. Very frustrating after the well selected remedies 
failed.  She is more Puls/Sil than anything else. Definately tubercular. Dry  
mouth, sips water or soda every 15 to 20 minutes. Never has had an elevated  
temp.  It is as if her immune system just can't make the jump to extract  the 
pseudomonas from her system.  Plus the multitude of antibiotics she has  taken.  
She is in such pain my heart goes out to her.  Perhaps a  nosode is the 
answer.  Thank all of you for your help.
Dr. Carol Bernat
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				Re: Pseudomonas - Swimmer's Ear - Need Rubics
				Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 3:36 pm
				by muthu kumar
				Chris -
Thanks for your input.  I understand the methodology also. But when 
you say pure observation, there is no such thing as pure observation. 
We observe with whatever baggage we bring in and that is it... I 
might be pathologically oriented and you might be pure hahnemannian, 
there are people with delusion outlook, Key noters etc. etc. Some 
people work with the periodic table and might come up with remedies I 
would not even know exist. Which means for a given case all of us are 
guessing because who says that which method is right or wrong? If you 
say Organon is the final word 75% of current practitioners will be 
losing out including some of the big names in the "industry".
As I have been saying always Homeopathy is a systems based medicine. 
Here we CANNOT ALWAYS demonstrate CAUSE- EFFECT. In systems, what 
operates is a Circular causation - and the effects we see are what we 
get not what we would anticipate. 
Can we prove Nux vomica on 30 people and predict what symptoms we are 
going from Nux vomica picture  in each? No, because we depend on 
subtle interactions - not massive doses to produce macro results. 
Those guidelines you have given are good to follow and would be well 
defined in an ideal world. We are not using Proven remedies, not all 
of us are using the "minimum dose" ( if in a case 500c is the minimum 
I calculate where would I get the potency?). What I am talking about 
is how homeopathy is being PRACTISED now- even otherwise - even if 
you look at all the writings in Homoeopathy tell me in how many cases 
even the masters found the right medicine right away? 
makes our
homoeopathic
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