Minutus

Hello Everyone,

I have just had a distant family member contact me
regarding her burning mouth syndome, of which she has
had for the past 2 years. She had braces put on at 55
and it was during this time the burning started, but
did not cease after she had them removed. She has
consistently taken anti-anxiety meds since college and
Lipitor (for many many years as well) but her GP took
her off all meds for a month and it did nothing to
help the problem. She is under a lot of stress as she
just put both parents in a nursing home and her
husband is on dialysis. She is "afraid of losing 3
people she cares about all at once". She has a
constant burning of the roof of her mouth and tip of
tongue that is best in the morning and gets worse
until 5pm where the intensity stays the same from then
until she sleeps. She says it "feels like a hot
pepper in the mouth" and is worse ice cream and
cinnamon. Nothing ameliorates except Lidocaine and
Chloroseptic lozenges all day and night. The mouth
looks absolutely normal (she has been to many doctors
about it). My question is, does anyone have
experience treating this syndrome homeopathically? It
seems as though I may only be able to palliate in this
case as there is much suppression that I don't think I
can treat from such a great distance (and I don't
believe she wants help with any other issues). Any
ideas or thoughts are welcome.

Thanks so much in advance,

Fran

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Dear Frances

Burning - especially by the tongue, is a classic symptom of ASPARTAME.

So please make sure she does not have Aspartame in any shape or form.
(diet, reduced sugar, sugar free products should be carefully examines as
other food labels)

It is in 5,000++ products so she may have to be careful for a while.

MOUTH - TASTE - burning
MOUTH - PAIN - burning
MOUTH - PAIN - burning - Tongue

--> Mez, Kali-chl

Good luck
Soroush

Dear Fran, if you are a homeopath then you need to take the full case
or at least have her see a good homeopath.

This could be stomatitis (not that the name changes anything) and could
have been set up by an infection with the braces. All the long term
medications will just have made it worse causing vitamin deficiencies
that would have provided a good resistance to this condition. I would
have thought it imperative that she cut down in a suitable manner all
these meds and have her full case taken as there seems to be other
underlying issues that need to be dealt with. She might need to be
gently persuaded that a full return to health would probably involve
dealing with these other issues. Best wishes, Joy
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Fran-
General things first... You had asked if somebody had treated this...
whether somebody has treated it or not does not matter...Homeopaths
have treated so many ailments others have not and so anyone else's
experience or absence thereof is not very important...Remember -
Homeopathy is very powerful and there are miracles done with it in
everyone's practice..

Do not think that you can only palliate...As for as this condition is
concerned who could say you cannot cure...You do not have to cure her
of everything...anxiety etc. and if you can find the right remedy her
allopathic medication till now even might not matter... and many have
prescribed for people from far-away without even seeing their
patients (including myself)- so if you can take a good case you can
easily treat patients you have not seen...

In this case - you have a ? probable cause - braces - perhaps
Silicea - foreign body , anxiety
Burning warm drinks etc?) May be Ars - also anxiety
etc.
Fear something will happen to relatives - is Ars as well ( Knerr's
repertory)
burning sensation like pepper - Mez ( also < cold), Nat.sulph, Coca (
also Lidocaine relieves -so there might be some sensitivity to
Cocaine group)
Other things like Staph ( lacerated tissues etc), Cocculus ( is she
taking care of her husband like night watching), Capsicum ( peppery
burning in tip of tongue) etc. might be indicated as well.
With these remedies as a starting point find some other symptoms and
confirm.

Do not start with an idea of palliation - that is losing the battle
even before beginning.... that is NOT the mission of the physician...

"The physician's high and only mission is to restore the sick to
health, to cure, as it is termed". ( I got my chance to quote the
Organon for a change and probably the only aphorism I know and beat
a few people to it this time) ...

Good Luck-
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Frances Camperlino
wrote:

Fran wrote:
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tongue that is best in the morning and gets worse
until 5pm where the intensity stays the same from then
until she sleeps. She says it "feels like a hot
pepper in the mouth" and is worse ice cream and
cinnamon. Nothing ameliorates except Lidocaine and
Chloroseptic lozenges all day and night. The mouth
looks absolutely normal (she has been to many doctors

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****Hi Fran
the symptoms you describe are the common ones for this syndrome.
Interestingly for us as homoeopaths, in one list of medical management
approaches, there was the following:

Capsaicin
Hot pepper and water
Rinse mouth with 1 teaspoon of a 1:2 dilution (or higher) of hot pepper and
water; increase strength of capsaicin as tolerated to a maximum of 1:1
dilution.

Now that is an interesting prescription!

This is a problem, not of the mucosa, but of certain facial nerves VII and
their connection to the fungiform papillae (taste buds), and it seems that
there is a hormonal component, with 90% of women with the problem being
post-menopausal. Thus any remedy chosen should encompass this sphere of
action.

One remedy that fits the bill, at least from a repertorial analysis, is
Mezereum. Its and other remedies usefulness will be borne out by study of
the Mat. Med.

There is usually an accompanying 'taste' problem, and possibly dry mouth as
well.

Here is an example of some rubrics

MOUTH - PAIN - Tongue - Tip - burning - pepper; as from
MOUTH - PAIN - Palate - Hard palate - burning
MOUTH - PAIN - burning - pepper; as from
GENERALS - PAIN - burning - pepper; like
MOUTH - PAIN - Tongue - neuralgic
MOUTH - TASTE - wanting, loss of taste
FACE - PAIN - neuralgic
Mezereum did come up as the clear winner in this group but there were
others --- however, if you find a homoeopath for your family member, they
will have their own approach.

Below is an exerpt from a study of taste

Best

Robyn
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From:
Hormones, Age, Genes and Pathology
How do we assess variation in sensation and preference?

Linda M. Bartoshuk

http://www.google.com.au/search?sourcei ... LD,GGLD:20
05-19,GGLD:en&q=hormones+trigeminal+nerves+burning

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Menopause. There is general agreement that age is associated with a
reductionin the ability to taste bitter (43). We asked attendees at lectures
to rate the bitter-ness of PROP paper using the general LMS (32, 44). In
females, perceived bitter-ness was stable until menopause when it began to
decline.PathologyTaste pathology offers another area in which across-group
comparisons are impor-tant.

Snip........................
Recently, we studied a sample of patients with burning mouth syndrome
(45).This disorder is characterized by intense oral pain in the absence of
visible oral tissue pathology. Patients rated the peak oral pain experienced
with this syndrome using the general LMS ("strongest imaginable sensation of
any kind" at the top).The correlation between this pain and the density of
fungiform papillae was 0.8(45, 46); the most intense oral burn was
experienced by the supertasters. Patients showed taste loss (particularly
for bitter) on the anterior tongue, the area innerva-ted by the chorda
tympani branch of CN VII, the facial nerve. This suggests that burning mouth
syndrome is a sensory phantom that can arise when tonic inhibition processes
in the central nervous system are disrupted. There is evidence that taste
normally inhibits oral pain (47). Damage to taste may therefore release this
inhibition, causing the patient to experience oral pain in the absence of
visible tissuepathology. For many individuals that phantom pain can be
relieved by low doses(0.25 mg per day) of clonazepam, an antiepileptic drug
(48).
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Hello all,
My Father in Law is suffering from Burning Mouth Syndrome.
Can any of you reccomend something that would help? I tried the BMS
group but the moderator is slow to approve my membership. Do you know
anyone who has had success with any type of treatment?

Regards,

Hersch