Minutus

??spelling. Have not access to all my books and notes at moment.
Could anyone please help with provings of above, Thank you, Jean

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Jean Doherty wrote:

Do you mean Jeremy Sherr's Haliaeetus leucocephalus ?
American bald eagle ?

I have sent this one in an attachment direct to Jean.

Colin ,not. sure would need to access old notes from Jonathon Shore
seminar. I think that is where it is. Thank you for response.
Rochelle thank you fpr material I will gladly and thankfully explore
to see if can find what looking for. In any event I will extend my
knowledge. Thank you, Jean

Jonathan shore on eagle
EAGLE
Jonathan Shore 20 February 1999
EAGLE: TRAPPED IN THIS WORLD
He flies higher and is alone. He moves between two worlds, symbolically
the conscious and unconscious. They're trapped in this world.
Must move freely between the world of dream and daily life.
Bridge the gap between the worlds otherwise they will go crazy.
Intense
More solitary
Less sense of individual duty, more of the need to connect with the
other world
Less pragmatic than Hawk

case of Eagle
Male patient, age 32
'Doctor, first of all my most critical complaint is a loss of hair. I
have been suffering from this for one year or so. This happened in Bombay
because I was handling a highly stressful deputation. I am at the moment
posted at Goa. In fact, the loss of the hair has increased since I have been
to Goa. Maybe it's the water over there. Essentially I've not been eating
well. I was working for twenty hours a day, without a day off, for two
months.'
Observation: His accent was American and his looks were sharp and
piercing.
I was not very happy with the kind of job I was doing. I was a chef for
seven years then I was switched over to banquet and conference manager,
which I did for one year. After that I was posted as a senior food and
beverage manager, after which I was transferred and was an operation
analyst. I enjoy being an operation analyst because it is very challenging
and the way the decisions have to be made is with precision. If the hotel is
facing any problem, the operation analyst has to solve it as fast as
possible...move.... move and bingo! That's me.'
'I was posted for a deputation for three months, essentially banqueting
at the World Energy Conference and I had to take over as the banquet manager
for three months. I came back here last month. The food and beverage manager
had resigned and I had to take care of it, but I made it very clear that I
was doing it under protest. I would just stand in, until they found someone
else. I was not interested in this job. By itself, it was a highly
prestigious post. I was ranked after the general manager. The owner of the
hotel thought I was the best guy to deal with prestigious banquets, despite
the fact that they had managers to do this job. They referred the entire
banquet to me and I didn't like it. If you have a competent manager then why
do you refer it to me?'
'For example, one member of the company owned the Escort-Yamaha group
of companies. Their son was getting married to the daughter of the biggest
star in the Indian film industry, and I got stuck with that and had to fix
it all. My manager told me to put on the thinking cap of an operation
analyst so that I could think as one a well. As a result I had very little
time, only forty five minutes a day for myself. I told my General Manager
about that. I decided to take control of myself and do something for myself.
The sad fact of the story is that I have done nothing for myself.'
'I got a membership for a club, but I have no time to play squash. I
feel I have no control. Your life is your own and you should have control
over it to some extent. You may not control what is going on in this world
but at least you can control on what is going on in your life. I am just
working and working and I have gotten caged in. My routine is getting up in
the morning, reading the newspaper while I am eating my breakfast, showering
next, putting on my manager suit and manager's mode of mind and that's it.
I love the job of operation analyst and as it is a challenge, I am
happy.
Food and beverage operation is critical but I am not interested. I am
good at it and hence get stuck with it. There are set standards and
procedures and they know what they have to do. Sometimes there is an upset
guest so you have to use your food officers to rectify the situation. I am
looking for a challenge, not in public relation, but as operation analyst
for the functioning of the hotels. For improving the productivity, PR is
necessary but it is not the only criteria or the end of my job. I take it as
an opportunity to learn. If there is an obstacle and I can overcome it with
the knowledge I have, then it is not an obstacle. If I have to consult with
some people then I have to draw on the knowledge and overcome the job. It
gives me more satisfaction because it will make me a more-rounded human
being and a well-rounded professional. I am sick and tired of banqueting.
Why me?'
'Excuse me. But unfortunately the image perception to the owners and
the managers was not as clear as mine. They felt very comfortable with me
because the work was done well. With the others, they were trying to figure
it out, as they did not generate the right image. The other manager did not
instill confidence. So I have to do the job of two managers just because he
hadn't done well. But why me?'
Observation: He was very vivid in his description along with lot of
cutting gestures and was holding the grip of everybody in the consulting
room with his accent, mannerism and style.
'The job makes me feel caged and I want to break free. Doctor, I went
through a tough time with my girlfriend. We might break up. I was upset
about it. I had a long chat with her and decided to give it a go, but she
worked in airlines and we could hardly find time for each other. I was
highly stressed.'
How did you feel?
'You cannot have a relationship over the phone. I had worked hard on
it.
That's fine. Now I had to tell her that I couldn't continue the
relationship anymore. When I look back I don't want to feel that I didn't
try hard enough. That is important. To do things to the best of your
abilities. To know that I have given my best and if it's not working then
that's fair enough. The point is, doctor, if it has to happen it will
happen. If I have to get into a new relationship you must feel comfortable,
so in a way you strip yourself psychologically, so it takes time to feel
comfortable to reach that level and it takes a lot of hard work and I am not
at it now. Maybe it is cumulative and has affected my relationship. Or it
has affected my work and I am not able to fathom that, yet try to cut out my
professional and personal life. "East is East, West is West, never the two
shall meet," - Mark Twain.'
'I feel very very tired, basically. It's lack of sleep as well, because
I go home at 11.30 p.m., I have to read a little while until I get to sleep
and then get up in the morning and it is like 'Bingo' - 6.30 a.m., 6.45 the
body clock says: 'OK Buddy, catch your newspaper, finish it of as much as
you can and back to work.' I shall be a good specimen for a robot you know.'
'I am probably not what you think I am. I am not exactly a
perfectionist but I like to do the things right - I make sure I give my best
at all times. My nature is quite forgiving I must say, up to a certain
point. I am not vindictive by nature. I never seek revenge or whatever but
when I am pushed beyond a certain limit then I fall down like a ton of
bricks on the other person. Fortunately, I haven't had the occasion to do
that lately, I don't know in how many years. Very slow to anger. I must say
I'm meticulous in my mannerisms. I am not exactly meticulous in the way I
keep my wardrobe. At home my cupboard is always a mess. But meticulous in
the sense that I value my words, the way I speak. I think I have a sense of
humour with a very strong slapstick to satire, to subtle, understated
British humour. I like doing physical exercise but I have not had the time.
I studied Martial Arts for eight years before I quit because of my work. I'm
a keen sportsman and could play any game on the earth.'
'I am analytical, sometimes I feel that I am too analytical. Let me
put it this way, sometimes you come across a situation where under the
normal circumstances you would be roused to anger or maybe sadness, and here
I would be cutting it, bit by bit and say, OK. This is what Doc said and
there must be a reason why he said it. So I go back and say maybe there is
something playing on Doc's mind and maybe he had a bad day at work, so he
said this to me. OK, so I dismiss it. That is what I mean by analytical. I
always try and justify the other person's shortcomings to an extent or
whatever, because then I try and look back. Maybe there was something that I
said that evoked that kind of response from you,that is also a possibility.
I guess that helps me develop a bit.'
'People say I am normally very expressive. I can be dead pan if I want
to, but at my job I have to see that I wear an expression of a smile because
as a manager your job is to get the work done and if you get the work done
with a smile it creates a pleasant working environment. That is part of my
role as a manager as well. I am paid to do that. I have been told that they
find it very difficult to fathom what is going in my head. I have a
mechanical bent of mind. I want to know how an engine works, the scientific
principle behind it. My style basically as a person is 'elegance'. I look
for simplicity and elegance. Understated elegance as they call it. Be simple
in whatever you do, elegant in whatever you do. Not all this flamboyance,
the loud kind of mannerisms, behaviour, or actions.'
What does 'elegance' mean to you?
'Elegance also means charm, pose. That is the way I have developed
myself.
I feel that you develop into an elegant and sophisticated person by
virtue of your dedication and thought. It is like this. You have a carbon
that is compressed over a thousand or million years and it becomes a
diamond. There is a diamond as a stone and it's cut and polished and with a
diamond that is cut and finished to the normal human eye or the trained eye,
you are naturally drawn to this and say yes, it is nice, it is beautiful, it
is well cut. You appreciate the labour that is gone into it and you know
that is elegance. It is like they say in the 'Tao de Ching'. It is a stream
of water. It is the way of nature if there is a stone in the path of water,
the water sometimes goes around the stone or goes on, or sometimes it even
cuts the stone. Elegance is there to appreciate those kinds of things. You
don't have to use a sledgehammer to kill an ant. You could just brush it
aside. Elegance I see as a by-product of developing yourself.'
'To be perfectly honest Doc, we all come from middle class families. I
haven't gone to any fabulous boarding schools. We all have middle class
upbringing. Given the opportunities that you have, you try and rise above
your own level. That is how you are developing it, right? I mean that for
the generation to come, you give something better than two-generations back.
So you try and rise above your normal life, looking with objectivity from
above. Like from the eyes of a bird. What else doctor? You made me run
through the entire gamut of vocabulary.'
What are your interest and hobbies?
'Martial arts, sports, certified scuba diver 120 feet, underwater
diving. I want to go in for para-gliding. What I would love to do is
bungy-jumping.
Listen to music, quality music. Quality of the sound. Reading, etc., I
have a fascination in collecting fountain pens! That is elegance,
sophistication. Improves your hand-writing as well.'
Can you describe in detail the most upsetting event in your life?
(Spontaneously).
'When I did not qualify for the Airforce. Before I had done my defence
exams I always wanted to be a pilot, a fighter pilot. We could sit for three
exams every six months and eventually I was too old to qualify.
Aircraft has always fascinated me. Always! The ingenuity of man to fly.
You are a terrestrial animal and you have only two-dimensional movement. For
that matter submarines also fascinate me. Because in a submarine or an
aircraft one can have three dimensional movement. Flying has always
fascinated me. The spirit of freedom. On earth you are stuck to
two-dimensional movements. You have to walk on one plain. Flying, you can
change. Feeling of elation. Just feels very nice.'
In what way?
'I don't know (Pause). The sense of freedom. You are broken free. It is
the same as in my job. I feel a sense of freedom when I am doing an
operational analyst job rather than feeling caged in the routine banqueting
or a chef's job.'
What dreams do you have?
'Dreams of snakes. I don't like snakes. Dreams of eagles. I like
eagles. I see the eagle flying, soaring. Maybe I thought I was the eagle. I
always have a pleasant feeling when I see an eagle. In the dream, the eagle
is soaring over a pond and the flying catch-eagle swoops down and sees a
fish and pluck it, takes the fish out of the water.'
Childhood history:
'As a child I was gregarious, full of life and always ready to crack a
joke. I would always have a smile and this has stayed with me. My mom told
me that I should not crack any jokes in front of relatives and guests, that
they might get a bad impression of me. 'Bingo,' I clamed up and became
reserved. I enjoyed being reserved. They didn't understand me. In the past I
was the most mischievous one at school. If there was some mischief at
school, they knew it was me behind it, but at studies I was fair. They
nominated me for a school prefect with any election. For any competition I
was there. I was energetic, boisterous, full of life.'
How did it feel when your parent told you shouldn't crack any more
jokes?
'I just clamed up and the feeling was that they never understood me. I
felt claustrophobic, crowded and I didn't realise that they didn't
understand what I felt but I took a firm stand and the resolution is still
with me today. I will have the courage to do what is right under any
circumstances.
I won't succumb to any emotional blackmail. I felt crowded and choked,
as if somebody strangles you and you feel suffocated. I was going to burst.'
Any other incidence in childhood that affected you very much?
'When I was in school I was selected for state championship in
badminton. I had just played a tournament. I got a letter saying that I was
nominated for junior stage badminton and had not applied for it. My
principal told my mother that I should not go because I should concentrate
on my studies.
Maybe I could have been a world-class badminton player. I have no idea
and they said you shouldn't and I lost an opportunity. That struck me as
well.
I felt claustrophobic, no freedom. I don't speak to my parents much,
only need to know the basics. I don't usually get angry but if I do, I fall
like a ton of bricks on the other person. I just have to give a single blow
and that's it. If somebody tries my patience or push me beyond a certain
limit then he has had it.'
Can you describe the most happiest moment of your life?
'When I was travelling, which I love. I was travelling from Bombay to
London and my friend's father happened to be the co-pilot and he
offered to let me sit with him in the cockpit. Wow! I still remember how the
world looked from above. The mountains, the river, the sun setting.'
What did you feel?
'I felt a sense of contentment as if that's where I belonged. If I had
an opportunity to fulfil my wishes I would love to stay secluded in the
mountains away from electricity and people and society.'
The remedy prescribed:
Haliaeetus leucocephalus (American Bald Eagle). The proving can be
found in the book, Dynamic Provings, Vol. 1. (Sherr)
The main feeling coming through in the case and which was also a part
of the proving, was 'Rising above all the negative emotions like anger,
jealousy, greed, hatred, etc.' Also he mentioned one has to have a sense of
objectivity when he has risen above his negative emotions. Like looking from
a bird's eye. Also a feeling of 'elation and jubilation', when he describes
his hobbies and interest, which were flying and other sports.
He spoke with clarity and felt a need for elegance in whatever he did.
He felt a need for 'freedom' and 'breaking through'. The feeling in his
childhood, which was claustrophobia, was just the opposite, 'as if caged',
which he also felt in his profession earlier, when he was made to do the job
of a banquet manager.
The dreams, which were so spontaneously narrated, were dreams of snakes
and the vivid dream of eagles. Also the other feature which was seen very
prominently in the proving was 'speed'. The prover enjoyed driving very
fast, above the normal speed limit. The sense of smell was increased.(He was
very vivid in his description along with a lot of cutting gestures and was
holding the grip of everybody in the consulting room with his accent,
mannerism and style).
Follow-up after two months
'I definitely can say that the medicine has made a change.'
In what way?
'I feel a lot more calm and my stamina has increased. I have time for
myself and I don't get pushed by my job. A definite sense of ease has come
in. I have stopped drinking coffee which use to kill my appetite. I have
started noticing new growth of hair coming up. What has come up are some
eruptions on the skin which is bothering me in a way. It looks a little odd,
doesn't it? Mood and temperament-wise I feel relaxed.'
Any Dreams?
'No. Not any I remember. I sleep very peacefully.'
Follow-up after ten months
'Last time I complained about the skin problem but that has been much
better than before. Once in a while it itches, but it is far better than
what it used to be. The skin eruptions have disappeared after the last dose.
I am feeling very nice. I didn't see you for a long time as I had gone to
Bali and I have met someone whom I am in deeply love with. Yes! doctor, I
don't have any more things to complain of from head to toe. I haven't needed
to take any medication since I took the last dose. I had mild fever after
the last medicine you gave but it gradually went away. The situation at the
work place is more or less the same. What has changed is my feeling of
getting stuck. I feel a lot of openness and at ease. I have a lot of time
for myself and also to do activities which I deeply love. At Bali I did some
para-gliding. It was fun. It definitely made my adrenaline rush but it felt
wonderful.'
Any Dreams?
'No dreams.'

Thanks Andy and thanks again Rochelle. Exactly what I was looking for.
May not be able to give it but hopefully knowledge will help., Best
wishes Jean