Minutus

Hello, I do beg to differ on this. How could that original remedy of Canth
have been promising when the poor woman went on to have a high fever, full
blown infection and even hallucinations, finally to be bed ridden and dosed
even more with ab's. If that apparent night she had without pain was
actually curative then that healing process would have continued, with or
without repetition of dose, not worsened to that degree. Either the Sepia
wasn't needed, albeit compatible with Canth, or the Cantharis was never the
right remedy to begin with. My opinion anyway. Thanks. Kerry
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Single dose of a 30c is not necessarily sufficient to cure, especially
with an acute that had already bounced back from three bouts of ABs!
Either acute or chronic can relapse *quite* thoroughly from an
insufficiently strong or insufficiently repeated remedy. That's why we
repeat when the symptoms *start to return*!

Sometimes a single dose is enough for an acute, but *very* often, it is
not.
That's my understanding and experience, anyway.
Shannon

I agree with you there Shannon-
I think Cantharis probably needed a continued trial and especially so
with so much dosing with antibiotics which for all we know were
still very much active in her blood. Sepia might have interfered with
Cantharis as well- even though it covers the pregnancy state and
follows Canth. well. I have seen Staph cases spoiled with Causticum
when given sooner than Staph completing its action even though
Causticum follows and complements Staph...All this "follows well"
and "complement" business is only a guideline- not to be used
routinely.
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Hello Shannon, as I see it there was no relapse just a terrible worsening
and natural progression of the initial state. It would have been prudent to
have repeated the Cantharis, I mentioned this, but of course we won't know
but the disease for sure was far stronger than the remedy which suggests
something close, maybe a partly similar rx. If there was any 'goof' in this,
it was to have given Sepia instead of being totally aware of what might have
been going on.

I agree that the ab's might have been holding this case in abeyance but that
was also something to have been very aware of within the case management.

Just as a sideline regarding the cantharis, I don't know how sensitive this
person might be with homeopathic remedies but Cantharis does have
hallucinations in the materia medica!

I hope the original poster of this case (Beth?) doesn't mind us examining
this case in details like this. Many thanks. Kerry.
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Thanks for the confirmation!
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is a situation I'm interested to understand better. When you have seen
that, were you able to just re-dose with staph and straighten it out,
or what happened?
Shannon

The reason I used the word "relapse" is simply that she'd (if I'm
remembering right) slept well that night for the first time in quite a
while, and she felt better. Those are important, in my understanding.
So I think the term "relapse" is appropriate.

Was the disease stronger than the remedy, or was it stronger than a
single dose of 30c? I think we can't tell from what was written.

For *this* case obviously it's a moot point, water under the bridge.
But in *another* case it could be important indeed to understand
whether "the right remedy" in one dose of 30c ought to have been
sufficient, and I think it's important to realize that no, it (I would
say) *very probably* would not.

To decide whether a remedy is "acting well", we need to see what *each
dose* accomplishes (and perhaps how that response changes over time and
etc.). If each dose brings improvement of an acceptable type and
degree (as per the prescriber's experience and understanding of the
case), then (IMO) it may be better to follow that remedy (as you've
said), rather than change remedies before reaching an understanding of
what the remedy *can* accomplish in the case.

But to expect a single dose of *anything* to completely abort a serious
disease, whether chronic or acute, would IMO be a mistake. (I'm not
saying that Beth made that assumption--she thought that Sepia would
finish the job, and in another instance perhaps it would have! We're
just guessing about a lot, here.) Kerry, I *think* that's the only
point we're disagreeing about? Because whether canth was "right" or
"wrong" or "can't know" I think pretty much turns here on the question
of just how much that one dose ought to have achieved.

Shannon

Hello again Shannon, yes I agree and i think I didn't write very well what I
meant, sorry. The Cantharis certainly should have been tested further and
for Beth THAT is the the big lesson, to stay with a remedy, either by just
watching and waiting or repeating as necessary. However, when there is
amelioration with a remedy, i.e. it is showing that it is acting, then any
so called relapse would probably not come back again with such a force.
Symptoms might return but they shouldn't be so fierce or life threatening.
This case clearly went downhill and maybe it was the ab's messing up
progress or at least complicating the case as well as the unnecessary Sepia
(in my opinion anyway) but to me that kind of threat suggests the remedy
wasn't quite spot on but yes it should have been repeated. Many thanks for
clearing this up. Kerry
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Okay, I can go with that!
Thanks,
Shannon

Kerry,

I am so pleased to have been able to introduce a case that has initiated
such an interesting conversation. I've also learned so much -- mistakes are
brutal teachers!! I don't mind at all. I would encourage others to share
such cases -- they really do open a pandora's box of questions.
Beth
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