Minutus

Dear Becky

Ideally you should see your patient during the winter months when there are
no 'hay fever' symptoms to cloud or make the case 'one-sided'.

Now in the peak of hay fever symptoms, you really have no choice but to take
the patient's hay fever symptoms and try and help the patient through this
difficult period. The case may be one-sided in that the patient just wants
their hay-fever sorted.

The treatment of hay fever should be considered by both the patient and
homoeopath as a long term project lasting some 3-4 years.
Hay fever is really a tri-miasmatic deep constitutional and immune system
disease. Basically, the body is reacting against things that it should not
react to. Pollens etc have been on Earth for longer than we have and humans
have evolved with them - so why is that some people have this problem?
Answer, their immune system is diseased.

Good luck
Rgds
Soroush

Hi Soroush,

You are right but anno 2005 it seems like there are more (pollen) then when
i was a child,
when im outside now one can see these little fluffs of balls like cotton
everywhere in the air!
its really really bad where i live, maybe i have forgotten it from childhood
but i think it has
increased a lot! so no wonder that many more people suffer from it.

Becky there are a lot of rubrics in Murphy rep, also prophylactic, if your
interested to read them i can type them over for you and post here?

and good luck in making him understand that he needs to visit a homeopath in
near future

Marleen
Good luck
Rgds
Soroush

Marleen,
I agree with your observations - we are having a very high pollen year. We also have another problem - people move from area to area. They might be fine with the pollens where they grew up - and might have serious problems when arriving in a new area. I do use cell salts a great deal to help 'comfort' during the worst of the pollen/mold spore seasons. I don't think they 'mess up' the case when later dealing with the 'whole person' in taking the 'full' case - and they certainly help people stay away from the allopathic drugs.

I appreciate Soroush's observation that a compromised immune system is an important aspect of this problem, and understand his statement that there have always been pollens and we did evolve with them. However sometimes we are now transplanted all over the globe and exposed to more variety than our systems can keep up with. We are also importing plants and overplanting in some areas - overfertilizing ornamental grasses - etc. so that we are not dealing with a 'natural' condition.

In the US there is a website that will give you pollen and mold information for most zip codes.
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/allergies
just ignore all of the advertising for allergy medications.

I agree with Donna that cell salts are surprisingly helpful in getting people through the worst of the peak symptoms for this condition.

If the symptoms have a peculiarity about them, a low potency (3c, 6c, even 30x) of the remedy indicated by that also is often helpful. It is extremely difficult to treat a person when in the acute exacerbation, because the case does become one-sided. At that point, trying for a true constitutional remedy becomes like looking for the proverbial needle in a haystack, and low potency "organ-specific" or drainage treatment approach is the only one that makes sense. If Sulphur seems to help at 30c, it might actually help even better at 6c or 12c.

The difficulty is in persuading the person to come back for ongoing constitutional treatment once the peak pollen reactions have abated, because they generally feel fairly good then, and most people's memory of pain and misery is (fortunately) blessedly short.

Rosemary

Hi Marleen

That would be great, I don't have access to a copy of Murphy's rep
and would be interested to read them.

You're also right in that the pollen seems to be worse this year, my
partner didn't have any hayfever problems last year. Of course it
could also be the fact that this is the first time in his adult life
that he's had a garden, and he DID mow the lawn on Saturday after
which it became very bad Looks like that will be my job from now
on

Thanks very much
Becky

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Hi Donna

Would you mind sharing which cell salts you've used? I think it might
be a very long time before my partner will submit to a full
homeopathic consultation (we have just discussed it again), his
reasons are indepth and complicated, so we are limited to helping
control the acutes at the moment. Any way that is possible without
resorting to allopathic meds is much appreciated.

Thanks very much.
Becky

I do use cell salts a great deal to help 'comfort' during the worst of
the pollen/mold spore seasons.

Ok here it goes from murphy s homeopathic medical repertorium.

Nose, hay fever,
all-c, ars, arund, med, nat m, nat s, psor, sabad, sin n, tub (all 3)
ambro, aral, ars i, arum-t, brom, carb-v, cocain, con, cuprum-a, dulc,
euphr, gels, just, kali-i, kali-p, naja, puls, ran-b, sang, sil, stict, wye
(all 2)
sulph (1) there are a lot more 1 bt i did not type those.

annual, prophylactic, psor (3) ars, kali-p(1)

astmatic breathing, with, all-c, ars, iod, (all 3) ars-i, bad, carb-v, dulc,
euphr, naja, nat-s, nux-v, sabad, sin-n, (all 2) sulph (1)

august in , All c (3) dulc, gels, naja (1)
untill the fall, sin- (1)

autumn, in, wye (1)

chronic, coryza, brom(3) apis, ars, canth, colch, psor, sang, sil, sulph,
tub, teucr (all 2)

dryness of mucus membrame of nose, mouth and throat, with, wye (1)

grass newly mown! dulc (1)

spring, in, all-c, ars, gels, sabad, all (2)
lach, naja, sang, tub all 1

hope you have a good read looking all the remedies up

Greeting
Marleen

Becky,

Off hand - the hay fever related symptoms/cell salts include:

Itching and tingling in nose
w/violent sneezing, hoarseness . . . Nat Sulph, Silica
w/watery discharge . . . Nat Mur
Congestion with inflammation and headache . . . Ferr Phos
Dryness with tickling cough, worse at night, . . . Silica
Any spasms present . . . Mag Phos

I know you had put more symptoms on a past email, but I do not have access to that email just now. If you would like to correspond off list I would be happy to check my books for you.

Donna
rona@consultant.com

Thanks Marleen, really appreciate it.

Interesting about the grass newly mown rubric!!!

Becky