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Re: Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:31 am
by gailz059
Hello,

Both hepar sulph and silica refer to suppurative processes
(Boericke). HS refers to ulcers on cornea and silica refers to styes
on the eye. HS refers to swollen gums and bleeding gums. Silica
refers to gum boils. HS refers to great sensitivity to all
impressions and silica refers to incresed susceptibility to nervous
stimuli. They appear to be very similar but they are inimical to each
other. So how do you select one over the other? I have sometimes
used both on the same day separated by 12 hours. Can a person obtain
benefit, even minimally from each remedy by doing this? It seems to
me that HS might be more of a palliative remedy while silica might be
more of a constitutional remedy. Can remedies be broken into
categories such as palliative (or acute) versus constitutional or are
all remedies suitable for chronic and acute treatment?
Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Gail

Re: Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 4:17 pm
by muthu kumar
Gail-

Hepar in high aborts suppuration while low promotes suppuration.
Silica and Hepar follow each other well... I have combined them
together but cannot say which one acted... I used to have a
combination for all boils - which was Silica, Hepar, Myristica and
Gun powder.... with intermittent Pyrogen...Hepar sulph is not
palliative...it is as much of a constitutional as Silica.... Any
medicine can be a constitutional or palliative - depends on what
indications you prescribe them ... if the prescription does not
cover all the symptoms but is only partial then it acts as
palliative... whereas if the medicine covers the core symptoms - the
generals ( includes mentals) and peculiars then it works as the
constitutional... Silica in 3x works for malignancy for easing
cancer pains.... this is a palliative use for example... in fact
using Silica or Hepar blindly for all abscesses might itself be a
palliative use of them... for all we know for that patient
Calc.sulph might be the truly indicated...
All known medicines in materia medica are acute remedies...they can
be used in any acute indication whereas only some of them have been
ear marked as Chronic medicines based on how well they tackle the
miasmatic influences. So chronic medicines are a sub set of the
Materia medica whereas the whole materia medica is good for acute
prescribing..As new and more numerous medicines are being discovered
or invented or "dreamed" of - clear delineation of their miasmatic
application is lacking... for all we know as long as something that
covers the whole case is good enough to be called
constitutional...Once again Constitutional is different from
Miasmatic... Chronic medicine is miasmatic... whereas constitutional
covers the complete picture of the patient and at that point we are
approaching the patient from a completeness and core perspective
rather than from a miasmatic diagnosis perspective....

HTH
or confuses sufficiently ;-)
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Re: Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2005 6:15 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Gail,
Well, it's true they have a great deal of overlap. Here are my
off-the-cuff thoughts, and I hope people will correct me or supplement,
if needed!
noted, hepar has more about ulceration, stuff that goes deep,
destructive. Silica is more about suppuration, induration, weakness,
"inability to expel (other rxs have that too).
keynote is something like violent chills if even a bit of the body
sticks out from the covers. (Obviously this would be an acute state,
cold, fever, etc.)
to kill, violent rages.
(ulceration).

Have you been using them for something like boils? I would say if they
seem equally indicated, try silica first; if that fails, or if there
are also deep, sticking, pains, and/or chilliness or hypersensitivity
(sensorial or emotional) that seems extreme, try hepar first.

What materia medica(s) are you using?
Shannon

Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:33 pm
by gailz059
Thanks everyone for answering my questions. I have been using
Boericke because that is the book that I purchased sometime ago based
on the recommendation of a homeopath who taught a couse I attended.

weakness,

Here is what I have noticed: HS seems to push symptoms elsewhere.
Not in a bad sense; it looks like aggravating symptoms are diminished
but the offending material to be expelled does not get expelled by
HS. The acute symptoms disappear. Silica seems to actually push
things out but the symptoms can be intense.

So with an ulcerative condition would HS to diminish ulcerative
symptoms (such as reducing the swelling associated with a gumboil)?
Would silica induce suppuration?

Here is another question regarding silica. The text
says "gumboils". At one potency gumboils could be induced but at
another potency gum boils may disappear, right? I once gave a 30c
potency because of a swelling of an eyelid and the swelling went
away. However if I use a q potency the swelling gets worse, I
suppose because the remedy is pushing things out? Is it not true
that silica has a dual nature, which could be loosely stated as
induce supparation or diminish suppuration?

Usually I would select a remedy besed on the "mentals". However for
physical symtoms I might select another remedy. How do you
prioritize the criteria when both physical and mental are equally
strong?

In case anyone feels nervous about answering questions I will mention
here that we work with a homeopath and I am not asking anyone for
medical advice. I'll be asking him what to do but at least I'll have
this backgroud information to work with.
Thanks,

Gail

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Re: Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 5:18 am
by Guillermo

Re: Silica compared to hepar sulph

Posted: Fri Jul 01, 2005 10:21 am
by Joy Lucas
LM's begin their life as a low potency (3x?), from there their power
could be described as lateral rather than upwards. So LM's fit
wonderfully into the aiding suppuration requirement, imo.

Best wishes, Joy
http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
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