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Compare all minerals in dept

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:20 am
by tjelie
Hi all
I have been trying to define the goal of our mineral research.

Being able for everyone to compare all mineral homeopathic remedy's
in dept on 1-1-2007
Being able:
There should be a possibility to look on the internet to find all
kind of information.

For everyone:
It should be interesting for homeopaths all over the world.

To compare:
There should be a website with a chart of the periodic table.

All mineral homeopathic remedy's:
It should have a complete index of all the mineral compounds
available.
Also it should have information about its chemical background.
During time it should be clearer and clearer what is the similarity
and the difference between remedy's in the same stage and in the same
serie.

In dept:
There should be a clear reference to an other website where there
would be a broad and indept picture of the well known mineral
remedy's.

On 1-1-2007:
Doing one stage a month it would take 18 months to get the job done.
That would leave 2 months for the final composition.
So what do you say, will this do?

Annemieke

Re: Compare all minerals in dept

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:27 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde, Ph.D.
Hi, Annemieke.

There already is a lot of information out there on minerals, and I don't see any sense in redoing what's already been beautifully done by our classic and modern authors. For instance, in Prisma and to a lesser extent in the Synoptic Materia Medicas Vermeulen has done a wonderful job explaining the chemical composition and uses of the various remedies. We should refer peope to these, perhaps, rather than trying to redo what already has been well done.

Perhaps one aspect of what we post should be a good annotated bibliography of existing sources for cases and provings -- primary data-- as well as suggestions for one or two Materia Medica essays that are unusually complete and informative for each mineral (different authors knew more about some remedies than others, and for some remedies they just quoted what had already been written elsewhere, but for others they included some really useful personally observed clinical gems -- it would be useful to know where those outstandingly informative MM chapters are).

So one good contribution would be to post bibliographic data and a comment about particularly good chapters, when we find them, on the remedies as we're considering them. Especially some of these may be in books that are not included in the computerized references, and that would be enormously helpful because otherwise many people would never happen upon these.

A concern of mine is what original contribution can we make with our work? How can we facilitate things? What things can we facilitate?

1. How can we create a learning tool for homeopathic students that really helps them to understand the important features of these remedies and especially develop the reflexes of experienced homeopaths to think of investigating certain remedies when certain types of indicators are clear in patients? (I'm sure that somehow using the structure of the periodic table we can do this).

2. How can we create a useful reference tool for more experienced homeopaths looking for solutions to "difficult" cases?

Aside from these issues, which mostly attempt to clarify your first statement about the goal -- which I think was an excellent thing to bring up, and very important to define -- I think the rest of your plan is excellent :-)))

Rosemary

Re: Compare all minerals in dept

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:19 am
by tjelie
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde, Ph.D."
wrote:

don't see any sense in redoing what's already been beautifully done
by our classic and modern authors. For instance, in Prisma and to a
lesser extent in the Synoptic Materia Medicas Vermeulen has done a
wonderful job explaining the chemical composition and uses of the
various remedies. We should refer peope to these, perhaps, rather
than trying to redo what already has been well done.

***I totally agree with you on that, and it will have little use to
just copy that.
But the fact that there is a lot of information is where it is all
about in my opinion.
When you think about a certain remedy for a patient, then you want
all the information you can possibly get about that remedy, and
indeed Prisma does a wonderful job here.
But the fact that you thought about that remedy in the first place is
something else.
Maybe it came up by the repertorisation, maybe the homeopath has a
whole lot of experience, maybe he had a patient before that looked
similar, maybe he had a gut feeling, whatever:-)
It happens when you understand the remedy.
And understanding is very difficult to explain with words. There are
no words that take the whole. Whatever word you take it will be to
limited, apart from the different meaning that word has for ever so
many people.

Personaly I think the periodic table can be of great value in the
understanding part, and then I do not mean so much as with keywords
and essenses. Of course they were very important to get started the
understanding, but every word that is been used to explain a serie or
a stage is limited.
In a way the periodic table is a progression, and at a certain point
a patient gets stuck, but it means at the same time that that point
is also a gift, and if you are able to handle it, it will be of great
value for yourself and for others.

What I was hoping to get by letting the month begin with an
inventorisation of that what is well known already in homeopathy, was
to get a certain feeling of what is going on there in that stage.

Maybe someone has original proving material of Ferrum Phoshoricum
because he has much affinity with that remedy.
Another may have a list of all the rubrics in the repertory of
Osmium, and has spent a lot of time finding them all (in the pre-
computer era :-)
Or someone has a case of Ferrum metallicum from an old book wich he
was intrigued by, or found out who did the proving of Ferrum aceticum
because he gave that remedy to a patient and saw dramatic change.

That way by starting with something small, it could get the feeling
of the remedy even as well as it would have by a complete
inventarisation of many pages, that is written by just copying.
By which I do not mean that is not nessesary to have acces to all
that information, because it is, but to hear such things would get
the remedy more alive.
bibliography of existing sources for cases and provings -- primary
data-- as well as suggestions for one or two Materia Medica essays
that are unusually complete and informative for each mineral
(different authors knew more about some remedies than others, and for
some remedies they just quoted what had already been written
elsewhere, but for others they included some really useful personally
observed clinical gems -- it would be useful to know where those
outstandingly informative MM chapters are).

***Then this is maybe what could be posted in the second week.
Indeed suggestions for Materia Medica, clinical observations,
provings, seminarnotes, personal cases, etc.
comment about particularly good chapters, when we find them, on the
remedies as we're considering them. Especially some of these may be
in books that are not included in the computerized references, and
that would be enormously helpful because otherwise many people would
never happen upon these.

***Then again these good chapters and those special books would be
what I mean for the first week.
our work? How can we facilitate things? What things can we
facilitate?
really helps them to understand the important features of these
remedies and especially develop the reflexes of experienced
homeopaths to think of investigating certain remedies when certain
types of indicators are clear in patients? (I'm sure that somehow
using the structure of the periodic table we can do this).
homeopaths looking for solutions to "difficult" cases?

***In a way I think it will be the process itself what would be of
the most interest here.
This is a very large group of homeopaths, with very different
backgrounds.
All that different looking at a limited group of remedy's in a
relatively short time could give a huge understanding that goes far
beyond essenses and keynotes.

I hope you understand what I mean because I find it very difficult to
get on paper :-)
Annemieke