Minutus

Has anyone given any thought to likely remedies for this? Does anyone even
know what the symptoms are? Am assuming no-one has actually been called on
to treat it yet.

Theresa

We had a cartoon in last nights paper where the doctor asked the patient
what made him think it was Bird Flu. The patient's symptoms were that he had
grown a beak and tail feathers. Probably an extreme case we won't see.

bob

Look for symptoms here
http://www.lovebirdcenter.com/7virusbacteria.htm

and then like any other pet or human case, look up symptoms and prescribe as
best as possible

good luck

Marleen

Actually, I stocked in some Oscillococcinum in anticipation of this possibility. Most actual flu, in fact, originates in ducks or geese in Asia and then infects the people living in close proximity to them who then communicate the disease to others. Oscillo..., having potentized duck liver as its primary ingredient, seems to work, when it does, because of that very fact. Logically, then, it seems that could be one helpful remedy in the event of a "bird flu" outbreak -- which would also originate from Asian ducks and geese, but as a rarer strain (H rather than the more common A or B).

I'll be interested in reading other thoughts on what it might be good to have on hand in case of a bird flu outbreak. Certainly remedies like Ant-t, Ars, Stann, Carb-v, Bapt, Pyrog, Gels, Eup-perf, Bry.... I've also wondered seriously about Tub-av, and actually Anschutze, in "New Old Forgotten Remedies," under Bacillinum, discusses a significant number of severe influenza cases in hospitalized patients (in 1897) that were successfully treated with Tub-av 100c (in France where Anschutz was working, that would be considered a very high potency ). It might be useful to have that on hand??...

Previous serious flu pandemics (e.g. 1918) were caused by H-strain flu viruses that also originated in Asian ducks. There is no real evidence yet this time that the current avian flu strains are actually contagious among humans, so "bird flu" may remain a hypothetical threat for an indefinite time. There have been several reported small foci of infection among poultry workers -- all of whom contracted the disease from contact with infected poultry rather than other people --in different countries since around 1997. Mortality has ranged from zero to 50% in different places and times. The symptoms these people have had, according to the Center for Disease Control:
"The reported symptoms of avian influenza in humans have ranged from typical influenza-like symptoms (e.g., fever, cough, sore throat, and muscle aches) to eye infections (conjunctivitis), pneumonia, acute respiratory distress, viral pneumonia, and other severe and life-threatening complications."

In fact, these mini-epidemics have all proven to be from different strains of "bird flu." Since there has not yet been any reported communication of bird flu from one person to another, indicating that easy contagion has developed (a prerequisite for a human epidemic), no one yet knows what the exact picture will be or how severe the threat will be when a new epidemic of influenza H does develop. So for the moment, we don't need to be ready to spring into action against a known pathogen.
Rosemary

Oh but Lynne where is the fun on DECAF coffee???????

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At 9:56 AM -0800 3/6/05, Rosemary C Hyde, Ph.D. wrote:
[snip the rest]

Oh my! Are you getting this from the BOOK or from ReferenceWorks?

E. P. Anshutz, the compiler of the book was NOT a practitioner. He
was an editor for B&T.
If the BOOK is carefully read, you will find that the whole article
about Bacillinum came from an article by *Francois Cartier* a FRENCH
homeopath, who wrote it in 1896. It was THAT which was quoted by
Anshutz. The Book, "New Old and Forgotten Remedies" is but a
compilation by Anshutz of articles written by other people.

When I see something like this, I despair that our understanding of
our great literary treasure are being lost.

JW
(very sad that our heritage is not well cared for)

Thank you Rosemary and Magda for your responses (the one more comprehensible
than the other!!:)

Theresa

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Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 14:05:30 -0500
From: "Magda Aguila"
Subject: Re: bird flu

Oh but Lynne where is the fun on DECAF coffee???????

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