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What does mean 'Eingenommen'?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:59 am
by Miguel F
Hi,
Could someone explain me what is the sensation named 'Eingenommen' in "The Chronic Diseases", please. I. H Tafel translate it to, well, here is:
"One of the German terms wich seems to have no good English equivalenmt is Eingenommen with respect to the head. It means literally "occupied" and describes the sensation produced in the head by a cold, where the parts are as it were benumbed and incapacitate from acting freely. Dr. Hempel has usually describe this state of the head by 'obtusion', Dr. Dudgeon usually by 'confusion' or 'muddled feeling'. We have usually rendered it with 'benumbed feeling', though as none of these terms was quite satisfactory, we have also sometimes used 'meddled feeling' or 'obtuseness'." (CD, pg. vi, Translator's preface).
I don't know what o how it feels. If you can help me, I will be very grateful.

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Re: What does mean 'Eingenommen'?

Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 7:20 am
by Gaby Rottler
Hola Miguel,
Other words (synonyms) for 'Eingenommenheit des Kopfes' (German synonyms
according to Clotar Müller, 1854; English expressions my translations):
Benommenheit - dazed state
Dämlichkeit - stupidity; dumbness
Wüstheit - could perhaps be translated with 'chaotic feeling'

Interesting: In Jahr's repertory section of his 'Grand Manual',
'Eingenommenheit' is listed under the chapter 'sensorium' with the
synonyms
Befangenheit - (this word has a completely different meaning nowadays:
diffidence, awkwardness, prejudice, bias)
Benebelung - swimming of head; dazed feeling

Hope that helps,

Gaby

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Re: What does mean 'Eingenommen'?

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:32 am
by ~Tan~
>Hi,

Hello,

I found this at a English/Dutch/German translation dictionary site...
http://www.dict.cc/
Entering the German gives the English and Dutch translation but not
necessarily accurate and the following are current day!

biassed = eingenommen
received = eingenommen

Verbs and Verb Phrases
to be smitten = eingenommen sein

Short Phrases and Composed Entries (2 words)
be taken in = eingenommen sein
completely taken in = ganz eingenommen

Phrases and Collocations (3-4 words)
taken by the enemy = vom Feind eingenommen
smitten with her charms = von ihrem Charme eingenommen
complacent = von sich selbst eingenommen
blended by prejudice = von Vorurteilen eingenommen

Long Phrases and Examples (5+ words)
the town was carried by storm = die Stadt wurde im Sturm eingenommen
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...and this...
http://www.iee.et.tu-dresden.de/cgi-bin ... /search.sh

Search results for -- Suchergebnisse für 'eingenommen':

He is prejudiced. -- Er ist voreingenommen. biased -- voreingenommen
candid -- unvoreingenommen detached -- unvoreingenommen (Meinung)
enthusiastic [about] -- leidenschaftlich eingenommen [für] impartial
-- unvoreingenommen interested -- voreingenommen jaundiced --
voreingenommen perpendicular -- das im Stehen eingenommene Mahl
prejudiced -- voreingenommen preoccupied [with] -- voreingenommen
[von] preposessed [by,with] -- voreingenommen [durch,von] tendentious
-- voreingenommen to adopt -- einnehmen (nahm ein,eingenommen) to be
biased [against] -- voreingenommen sein [gegen] to be conceited --
von sich eingenommen sein to be partial [to] -- eingenommen sein
[für] to be prejudiced against -- voreingenommen sein gegen to be
prepossessed [in favour of,against] -- eingenommen sein [für,gegen]
to be taken [with] -- eingenommen sein [von] to have an open mind --
unvoreingenommen sein unbiased -- unvoreingenommen unbiassed --
unvoreingenommen unprejudiced -- unvoreingenommen without prejudice
-- unvoreingenommen

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..and one other...
http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/

Translation: eingenommen
English
to fancy oneself
self-assertive
to have a bias towards
to have a bias against
to recapture
recapturing
recaptured
recaptures
recaptured

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Makes the meaning 'occupied' pretty broad. Hope these help.

Cheerz, Tan.

Re: What does mean 'Eingenommen'?

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:48 am
by ~Tan~
....arrhh...here's the more literal translation...
http://dict.leo.org/?search=eingenommen

ENGLISCH DEUTSCH

occupied adj. eingenommen
received eingenommen
self-absorbed adj. von sich eingenommen

Self absorbed is interesting!

Cheerz, Tan.

Re: What does mean 'Eingenommen'?

Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:24 pm
by Miguel F
HI,
Thank you very much Gaby and Tan.
I am studying sulphur and I was surprised that Allen is much more complete and better translated that Hering; however, the symptom "confusion" cited in both is not at Kent's Lectures, neither there is approach in the synthesis. I think they confused such symptom and wrote it as "mind-confusion" even when they don't mean the same thing.
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