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celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 4:37 pm
by Shannon Nelson
What is the difference between "Ailments from continence" and "Ailments from
celibacy"?
Thanks!
Shannon

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 5:54 pm
by Rochelle
Well celibacy - is no sex and if continence is the opposite of incontinence then I presume it means profuse urination!! Sorry I couldn't resist that!!

According to my Isis dictionary programme

DictionaryContinence
Abstaining from sexual intercourse; able to retain voluntarily.
Generally continence is used with reference to continence of sex, urine or stool,
but in Repertory this is mainly abstinence from sex.
In chapter female genitalia, there is a rubric Congestion - ovaries, continence
from.
Here, it means there is an increased congestion of ovaries due to abstinence
from sexual intercourse.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:34 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks Rochelle,
But how is that different from celibacy?
Shannon

on 12/7/04 10:51 AM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:36 pm
by Homoeopathy
ARTFL Project: Webster Dictionary, 1913

Continence, Continency (Page: 313)

1. Self-restraint; self-command.

He knew what to say; he knew also, when to leave off, -- a continence
which is practiced by few writers. Dryden.

2. The restraint which a person imposes upon his desires and passions;
the act or power of refraining from indulgence of the sexual appetite,
esp. from unlawful indulgence; sometimes, moderation in sexual
indulgence.

Chastity is either abstinence or continence: abstinence is that of
virgins or widows; continence, that of married persons. Jer. Taylor.

3. Uninterrupted course; continuity. [Obs.] Ayliffe.


Celibacy (Page: 230)

The state of being unmarried; single life, esp. that of a bachelor, or
of one bound by vows not to marry. The celibacy of the clergy." Hallom.

Mark Olsen, ARTFL Project, mark@gide.uchicago.edu


Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 6:57 pm
by J Lucas
Continence has 2 meanings - one = much the same as celibacy, i.e. to refrain
but here I think you need to keep in mind the other meaning = to refrain
from the discharge :-) which is not the same thing. Continence is a kind of
coitus interuptus.

Best, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Tue Dec 07, 2004 7:23 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Ah, now that makes sense, thanks Joy!
And that explains why some remedies are in both rubrics, even by the same
author. Whew!
:-)
on 12/7/04 12:01 PM, J Lucas at j.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 4:39 am
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
Interesting, Joy. I'm curious -- do you know of a rubric for trying to avoid the discharge without avoiding sexual contact? Yeah -- I know -- sounds pretty weird, and is. This is a central issue for a patient.

Thanks.

Rosemary

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 8:24 am
by Chris_Gillen
Fear, creeping out of every corner, of something. :)

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 10:32 am
by J Lucas
>
Very funny Chris - still giggling :-)

Rosemary, to try and answer your question. I guess part of this depends on
WHY someone needs to do this.

Have a look at

Male, seminal emissions with depression (i.e. when it does happen and can't
be avoided)

Male, ejaculation difficult + incomplete + without enjoyment

Male, emissions aggravate

Male, continence aggravates (although this might not be the correct for your
case).

It can be all about not letting go, social, religious and cultural
upbringing, a refusal to give (a different kind of 'hanging on'), perhaps
the tension of the continence is enjoyable?

Hope useful, best wishes, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

Re: celibacy/continence?

Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2004 3:26 pm
by J Lucas
Dear Rosemary, just to add to last post, there is in Mind, fear after
emission - which also might be useful to the case you have.

Best, Joy

http://www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com