Minutus

Dear Minimus,

The following post was written by Will Talyor who I respect greatly. As
to his views about the sycotic miasm, I respectfully disagree. The follow
is Will public letter with my commentary added below his statements. I
invite others to comment on this subject.
I will have to disagree with Will on this one. Hahnemann often spoke of
sycosis and its gonorrheal discharge as well as its excrescence. There are
many such quotes. In the Chronic Diseases Hahnemann says: "The gonorrhea
dependant on the fig-wart disease miasma, as well as the above-mentioned
excrescences (i.e. the whole sycosis) is cured, mostly surely and most
thoroughly through the internal use of Thuja..." He is certainly speaking
of both a gonorrheal discharge and various excrescences that appear to come
together. He also notes Thuja has removed BOTH symptoms many times. So now,
we have to see how this fits together before we take them apart.
Hahnemann included both gonorrhea and excrescence under the same
miasms. I think Will is missing some important points here. That is
similar susceptibility, similar pathways of the disease and similar signs
and symptoms. Sycosis may well include gonorrhea and HPV as well as some
other infective agents and symptoms. They come together in a band of
susceptibility and share a similar pathway of disease where one leads to
the other. Those with inherited and acquired gonorrhea have HPV warts and
some others have flecks and moles and other growths and brown
discolorations that do not involve HPV at all!

How is it that some people have the complete sycotic syndrome never had
HPV genital warts but they do have the moles, fishy smells, dark hairy
patches and the brown spots as well as the catarrhal discharges and joint
pains. All these signs and symptoms come together as one syndrome that is
called sycosis. Some of these cases resolved with the return of a
gonorrheal discharge showing the original cause. This is all *without
HIPV*. It simply cannot be the only agent of sycosis. Nor has it been show
that HPV alone can produce all the latent and tertiary symptoms associated
with sycosis while gonorrhea has!

I and other have also confirmed cases where the patient had gonorrhea
and then developed all the classical signs of sycosis without any infection
of genital warts caused by HPV. If one thinks in terms of bands of
susceptibility the entire syndrome including both is possible. I don't
think narrowing it down to one entity can explain all that we observe
clinically. That is too linear and somewhat allopathic in thinking. Sycosis
is first and foremost a family of confirmed symptoms that have been
removed. Many times their removal has ended with the return of a gonorrheal
discharge. These are clinical facts not theories. I have seen this prove in
the form of a glass full of yellow-green pus-like matter!
These states comes together because they share similar susceptibility
and a similar pathway of disease. Their suppression may lead to a similar
syndrome because of this relationship. It is not that they are two
completely different entities just because they involve different infective
agents. They are in the same ban of susceptibility, share similar pathways
and their suppression may tend to produce similar symptoms. ?This will have
to sorted out clinically by observing the progression of symptoms under the
disease and the reversal of symptoms during cure. The complete picture of
genitourinary and constitutional symptoms of gonorrheal-sycosis can not be
explained away so easily.
Gonorrhea is also a life long chronic diseases, especially when
suppressed. It is not self limiting like the other half-acute miasm
Hahnemann mentioned, which was rabies. It is not just an infection of the
urogenital tract. It can spread in the tissues, blood and lymph system to
joints and organs and produce arthritis-like compliants and other
constitutional symptoms The drip may resolve in time but the systemic
symptoms do not, especially when suppressed, which is usually the case.

Neiseria gonorrhea is not a self limiting bacteria like an acute or
sub-acute disorder. When it is suppressed the patient never recover
completely. As has been shown with psora the original infective agent can
be killed by suppression but the syndrome continues until death You can
kill the mites or bacteria but the internal mistuning continues. This is
the same with gonorrhea. Thinking of it in term of live bacteria only is a
mistake made by the allopaths.

The gonorrhea infection in the female is often insidious and the
patient may experience only a slight leucorrhoea that is not considered
serious. In the female the urethra may or may not be involved and many
times there are not the painful symptoms that are associated with the male
anatomy. In many cases the onset is fairly mild but the vagina, cervix and
urethra are usually involved to some degree. The patient often experiences
itching and tickling sensations as well as a burning, smarting urination
that irritates the mucous membranes. Some patients don't feel anything
until much, much later.

In the more severe forms there may be discharge of mucus and pus and
sensations of heat, swelling, fullness and itching. Small superficial
ulcers may form on the mucous membranes, which become red and inflamed. The
symptoms may spread to the bladder causing cystitis with discharges of
blood or bloody urine. The inflammation may also spread to the labia,
Bartholin’s glands, vagina, and cervix, neck of the uterus, fallopian tubes
and ovaries. In some cases there may be severe complications such as
salpingitis, uterine hemorrhage, pelvic inflammatory disease (PID) or
arthritis.

Occasionally there is bacteremia where the gonococcus enters the
bloodstream producing fever, malaise, and flitting joint pains and scanty
pustular or petechial skin lesions on the periphery of the limbs. This has
the potential for serious sequels such as pericarditis, endocarditis,
meningitis, or perihepatitis that can be very dangerous. A baby born of a
women infected with gonorrhea may suffer from neonatal infections of the
eyes. All these symptoms are included in the traditional list of sign and
symptoms caused by sycosis.

Sycosis, like psora is not gone just because someone took a drug and
there are "no more bacteria". That is how the allopaths think not
homeopaths. All of the above symptoms are mimicked by the sycotic miasma
when the original discharge is suppressed by antibiotics.The suppressed
miasm produces all these states even if the bacteria has been killed
because the pathways of the suppressed miasms are similar to the symptoms
of the active infection and its complications. These effects can then be
transmitted by heredity to the next generation.
Psora's primary eruptions are a soft tissue infection of the skin
that can be caused by several infective agents. In the CD Hahnemann
mentions pimples and boils (staph-bacteria)), leprosy (bacterial TB),
tetter (fungi), scabies (mites) and tinea (viruses), etc. All these vectors
share the same pathway of disease and produce a similar psoric syndrome on
suppression. This means that psora is NOT caused by one agent. Sycosis may
not relate to only one agent either. Like psora sycosis may have a number
of microorganisms involved.

It is possible may include gonococcus, chlamydia, trichomoniasis as
well as HPV other homogeneous infective agents that share a similar pathway
and produce similar constitutional symptoms on suppression. All of this
must be shorted out over time. I have confirmed this in some cases of
chlamydia. The patient became "sycotic" after suppression and produced many
of the symptoms in the classical symptoms list. The disappear on the
return of the original discharge under homeopathic treatment. Many sycotic
cases have reversed to a gonorrheal discharge showing the origin of the
symptoms. These are clinic facts not theories about one microorganism
versus another.

In my opinion sycosis covers a number of possibilities and it opens one
to a certain ban of susceptibility. Yes, it might well include gonococcus,
chlamydia, HPV and other agents just like psora has more then one primary
vector (bacteria, fungi, mites, viruses). Chronic sycosis produces a ban of
susceptibility that leads to being affected by more sycotic agents and
symptoms. The simple venereal wart caused by HPV does not explain away all
constructional symptoms of sycosis found on the skin and internally. The
wart is not the miasm but just one member of the greater syndrome.

If one wished to split hairs - I would say the sycotic symptoms are
more similar to gonorrhea than HPV. HPV has been linked to cervical cancer
in females and almost nothing in men. It also has NOT been documented to
produce the wide set of constitutional symptoms associated with sycosis
while gonorrhea and its complications have been shown to make up the
complete classical picture of sycosis. The suppressed sycotic miasm mimics
all these complications and sequels.

I, however, am not going to separate such things because they
sometimes come together and go together clinically in some cases and in
other cases they do not. Nearly all cases show some sort of dark hairy
spots, moles, flecks, and other discolorations with concomitant fishy
smells, stiff joints, painful muscles, weaken heart, etc., whether HPV or
is or not!

As to what has been mixed up. When Hahnemann described the "figwarts"
he gives a description of condylomata lata, which is actually caused by
syphilis. He does not describe condylomatoa acumminata, which relates
venereal and other warts, flecks and moles, etc. The people he was
describing most likely had both sycosis and syphilis. Remember he said he
had not seen that many cases. It was later homeopaths who carefully
separated the symptoms of gonorrheal sycosis with condylomata accuminata
from syphilis and condylomata lata. The classic figwarts Hahnemann
described are caused by the gummata of syphilis. Simple HPV does not make
figwarts, which really look like figs! Take a look in a medical book.

So...over the years homeopaths have done a very good job of finishing
up where Hahnemann left off. The use of anti-sycotic remedies and the
reversal of symptoms have confirmed the gonorrhea-sycosis hypothesis
clinically. Limiting a grand syndrome like the sycotic miasm to HPV warts
alone does not fit with the clinical symptoms or reversal of symptoms
during cures over the years.

I and others have seen cases where the patient had a gonorrheal
discharge that was suppressed and then they developed all the classical
signs of sycosis over time. During treatment these collective symptoms
reversed until the original discharge returned. The symptoms did not
reverse to a venereal wart! We homeopaths have many such examples. You can
not explain away all this clinical data by only pointing out gonorrhea and
genital warts are caused by two different microorganism. They are related
in a greater venereal syndrome known as sycosis which includes similar
susceptibilities, similar pathways of disease, and similar signs and symptoms.
I do not agree with this either. It is true that Medorrhinum does have
some TB-like symptoms but it is clearly made up of gonorrheal substances
and has many sycotic symptoms. It has many more gonorrheal symptoms than TB
symptoms. A good number of reinstated gonorrheal discharges, the removal of
various excresences and arthritic-rheumatic syndromes have confirmed this
remedy as a powerful anti-sycotic. The following symptoms have been
confirmed in the clinic many times. These are from Allen's Keynotes.

"- For the constitutional effects of maltreated and suppressed
gonorrhoea, when the best selected remedy fails to relieve or permanently
improve.

- For persons suffering from gout, rheumatism, neuralgia and diseases of
the spinal cord and its membranes_even organic lesions ending in paralysis_
which can be traced to a sycotic origin.

- For women, with chronic ovaritis, salpingitis, pelvic cellulitis,
fibroids, cysts, and other morbid growths of the uterus and ovaries,
especially if symptoms point to malignancy, with or without sycotic origin.

- For scirrhus, carcinoma or cancer; either acute or chronic in
development, when the symptoms correspond and a history of sycosis can be
traced.

- Bears the same relation to deep-seated sycotic chronic affections of
spinal and sympathetic nervous system, that Psorinum does to deep-seated
affections of skin and mucous membranes."

Medorrhinum has been given on these indications when the concomitants
agree and have cured a host of cases. Notice the great similarity of the
symptoms to the sequels of a constitutional infection of gonococcus. The
miasm can produce these symptoms even if the gonococcus has been suppressed
and the disease is considered cured by the allopaths. Some of these cases
resolved with the return of the original gonorrheal discharge.

I don't often disagree with Will but I think he is missing the point
by only thinking in terms of one single infective agent per miasm. That is
certainly NOT the case with Hahnemann's description of Psora in the CD,
which sets the pattern for all other miasms. Think of the miasms as
syndromes involving spectrums of agents, similar pathways of disease and
similar constitutional symptoms and the matter is more clear. Will also in
not paying attention to the host of case histories with complete sycotic
constitutional symptoms that resolved with the return of the original
gonorrheal discharge. Kent, Allen and others (including myself) have
confirmed this clinically. This is clinical proof that transcends ideas
about what causes what.

Sincerely, David Little

PS Anyone got Will's email address. I want to send him this post.
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