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Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 3:22 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hi all,

I am looking for rubrics to describe a 17 year old boy who was severely abused by a bipolar mother. Since the mother was removed from the home by the state when he was 11 years, old the violent traits have left. He is very loveable to adults, but his peers can't stand him because he talks only about one subject. These are the traits that I can't find:

1). When he is anxious he bites his feet and fingers. He is not doing this because of pain or itchiness. He is anxious. I see the rubric
MIND - TEARING - himself - skin around nails

carc

It doesn't matter what the feeling is, the behavior is what count?

2.) He can't follow the emotional plot of a movie. Only the action plots make sense to him.

Blessings,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 4:30 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Ellen,

More rubrics --

MIND; BITING; himself (11) : acon., arum-t., elaps, hura, lac-h., lyss.,
op., plb., sol-t-ae., stram., tarent.

MIND; BITING; fingers (8) : acon., arum-t., carc., elaps, hydrog., med.,
op., plb.

What is the "one subject" that he talks about? Or do you mean that, once
started, he goes on and on? (Is he "loquacious", or perhaps a lack of
connection with the listener, which would be consistent with being unable to
follow the emotional plot of a movie...?)

Re feeling versus behavior -- I think the feeling is *more* important (i.e.
more defining) than the behavior, but behavior is easier to see. Do try to
get as much of the feeling as you can!!! Have you asked re dreams, favorite
movies, daydreams, what he would like to do/be, fears, etc.?

Shannon
on 9/30/04 8:24 AM, Ellen Madono at ellen.madono@verizon.net wrote:

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:38 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
Hi, Ellen -- this rubric might be helpful???

MIND - BITING - himself

acon.k Agar.vh1 arum-t.k1,k13 cupr.mtf33 cur.mrr1 elapskr1 hurak lyss.hr1,k op.k plb.a1,k,mtf33 stram.h1,mtf33 tarent.a1,k,mtf33

One patient of mine who was biting around her fingertips and tearing the skin off is doing very well on Lachesis -- that's not the main symptom, of course, but it was an interesting one to consider along with others.
Two possible rubrics to cover the issue of only talking about one thing all the time:
MIND - ABSORBED

acon.b7.de,k aloek alum.j5.de am-c.gl1.fr am-m.k ambr.gl1.fr anh.sp1 ant-c.k arge-pl.rwt5 Arn.b7.de,k bar-c.gl1.fr bell.br1,k bov.k bros-gau.mrc1 bruc.j5.de bufogk calc.k cann-i.k cann-s.b7.de,bg,j5.de canth.k Caps.k carb-an.mrr1,ptk1 Carl.k caust.k cham.b7.de,k chin.b7.de,k cic.k clem.k Cocc.b7.de,k con.k cupr.k cycl.b7.de,k elapsk euphr.j5.de fic-m.gya1 grat.k guaj.j ham.k HELL.k,vh/dg,vhx3 ign.b7.de,k indg.j5.de ip.k kiss.a1 kreos.j lil-t.k mag-m.j5.de mang.k merc.k MEZ.k mosch.k mur-ac.k nat-c.k Nat-m.k nat-p.k nat-sil.fd3.de nit-ac.k NUX-M.k Nux-v.bg1,j5.de ol-an.k Onos.k Op.k phel.k phos.k plb.j5.de Puls.k,mtf33 ran-b.b7.de rheumk Rhus-t.b7.de,j5.de sabad.k sars.k sel.c1,c2 spig.b7.de,k stann.k stram.k stront-c.j5.de SULPH.k,mtf33 thuj.j5.de,mtf33 verat.mrr1 viol-o.b7.de vip.j5.de

MIND - TALKING - one subject; of nothing but

Arg-n.k cann-i.k lyc.k med.ckh1,ptk1 petr.k stram.k
MIND - MONOMANIA

Absin.bro1 acon.k ALOEsne ambr.tsm1 anac.a1 anan.a1,hr1,k aur.bg2 bell.j bufomtf33 camph.k carb-v.k,mtf33 carc.mtf33 cham.j,mtf33 chin.j cic.bg2,bro1 cocc.j con.j croc.j cupr.j dros.j hell.k hyos.a1,bro1,j Ign.bg2,k iod.j lach.j mag-c.j,mtf33 nux-m.k oxyt.bro1 plat.bro1,j,mtf33 puls.k rhus-t.j Sil.bg2,k,mtf33 stram.k,mtf33 sulph.hr1,k tarent.bro1,mtf33 thuj.k,mtf33 verat.j

Someone else may very well find better rubrics for the unfeeling aspect of his situation, but I would consider these:
MIND - UNSYMPATHETIC

am-c.h2 anac.bg2 ars.gl1.fr calc.h2 carb-an.h2 carb-v.h2 cham.bg2 chin.bg2 chir-fl.gya2 con.h2 DIG.gl1.fr,k1 ham.fd3.de nat-m.bg2 nat-sil.fd3.de nit-ac.bg2 op.bg2 plat.bg2,mtf33 puls.gl1.fr sep.bg2 staph.h1 sumb.a1

MIND - DETACHED

anh.sp1 arge-pl.rwt5 cypra-eg.sde6.de dioxi.rbp6 Ham.fd3.de hippoc-k.szs2 hyos.mrr1 kali-p.fd1.de Lac-h.mp4 nat-sil.fd3.de podo.fd3.de sel.rsj9 Sep.mrr1 sulph.mrr1 symph.fd3.de syph.al2,mrr1 trios.rsj11 ven-m.rsj12 vero-o.vml3

MIND - SENSITIVE - want of sensitiveness

ant-c.st bell.a1,k cann-i.a1 chin.k con.k cupr.k cupr-act.a1 cycl.k daph.k diphtox.jl2 euphr.k Hydr-ac.gl1.fr hyos.gl1.fr Lyc.gl1.fr Ph-ac.k phos.k ran-b.k rheumk rhod.k sabin.k Sep.mrr1 staph.k stram.k tub.mrr1 verat.mrr1
Hope helpful. Rosemary.

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:48 pm
by d_barbara_hamilton
Also - Bites, desires to, impulse to. But if he can't follow 'emotional'
situations portrayed in films, then maybe you should be considering
remedies like Stram and Opium, along with the Carc. too ? But without
more info. very difficult to say !

Good luck Ellen

Barbara

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde PhD"
wrote:
lyss.hr1,k op.k plb.a1,k,mtf33 stram.h1,mtf33 tarent.a1,k,mtf33
the skin off is doing very well on Lachesis -- that's not the main
symptom, of course, but it was an interesting one to consider along with
others.
all the time:
ant-c.k arge-pl.rwt5 Arn.b7.de,k bar-c.gl1.fr bell.br1,k bov.k
bros-gau.mrc1 bruc.j5.de bufogk calc.k cann-i.k cann-s.b7.de,bg,j5.de
canth.k Caps.k carb-an.mrr1,ptk1 Carl.k caust.k cham.b7.de,k
chin.b7.de,k cic.k clem.k Cocc.b7.de,k con.k cupr.k cycl.b7.de,k elapsk
euphr.j5.de fic-m.gya1 grat.k guaj.j ham.k HELL.k,vh/dg,vhx3 ign.b7.de,k
indg.j5.de ip.k kiss.a1 kreos.j lil-t.k mag-m.j5.de mang.k merc.k MEZ.k
mosch.k mur-ac.k nat-c.k Nat-m.k nat-p.k nat-sil.fd3.de nit-ac.k
NUX-M.k Nux-v.bg1,j5.de ol-an.k Onos.k Op.k phel.k phos.k plb.j5.de
Puls.k,mtf33 ran-b.b7.de rheumk Rhus-t.b7.de,j5.de sabad.k sars.k
sel.c1,c2 spig.b7.de,k stann.k stram.k stront-c.j5.de SULPH.k,mtf33
thuj.j5.de,mtf33 verat.mrr1 viol-o.b7.de vip.j5.de
bell.j bufomtf33 camph.k carb-v.k,mtf33 carc.mtf33 cham.j,mtf33 chin.j
cic.bg2,bro1 cocc.j con.j croc.j cupr.j dros.j hell.k hyos.a1,bro1,j Ign.bg2,k
iod.j lach.j mag-c.j,mtf33 nux-m.k oxyt.bro1 plat.bro1,j,mtf33 puls.k
rhus-t.j Sil.bg2,k,mtf33 stram.k,mtf33 sulph.hr1,k tarent.bro1,mtf33
thuj.k,mtf33 verat.j
of his situation, but I would consider these:
chin.bg2 chir-fl.gya2 con.h2 DIG.gl1.fr,k1 ham.fd3.de nat-m.bg2
nat-sil.fd3.de nit-ac.bg2 op.bg2 plat.bg2,mtf33 puls.gl1.fr sep.bg2
staph.h1 sumb.a1
hippoc-k.szs2 hyos.mrr1 kali-p.fd1.de Lac-h.mp4 nat-sil.fd3.de
podo.fd3.de sel.rsj9 Sep.mrr1 sulph.mrr1 symph.fd3.de syph.al2,mrr1
trios.rsj11 ven-m.rsj12 vero-o.vml3
daph.k diphtox.jl2 euphr.k Hydr-ac.gl1.fr hyos.gl1.fr Lyc.gl1.fr Ph-ac.k
phos.k ran-b.k rheumk rhod.k sabin.k Sep.mrr1 staph.k stram.k tub.mrr1
verat.mrr1
severely abused by a bipolar mother. Since the mother was removed
from the home by the state when he was 11 years, old the violent traits
have left. He is very loveable to adults, but his peers can't stand him
because he talks only about one subject. These are the traits that I can't
find:
this because of pain or itchiness. He is anxious. I see the rubric
plots make sense to him.

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:50 pm
by Ellen Madono
Dear Shannon,
Thanks for the rubric. When the mind comes up with an activity, then the meaning content of that activity will vary with every remedy?

I think he has a very low emotional IQ. He doesn't understand what is going on when the plot is only about emotions. But I will have to proble that more.
THANK-YOU

Blessings,
Ellen Madono

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:55 pm
by J Lucas
I know you are asking for rubrics but it sounds very much like Medorrhinum
to me.

Best wishes, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
severely abused by a bipolar mother. Since the mother was removed
from the home by the state when he was 11 years, old the violent traits
have left. He is very loveable to adults, but his peers can't stand him
because he talks only about one subject. These are the traits that I can't
find:
this because of pain or itchiness. He is anxious. I see the rubric
plots make sense to him.

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:14 pm
by Ellen Madono
Thank-you Rosemary, Want of sensitiveness and absorbed might fit. I'll speak again with his parents. After the first interview and living near him for a week, we are doing te rest of the case by email and telephone. I am working on this case with Dr. Sharhar and hoping to become more systematic in my rubric choosing procedure. However, If you did not ask the right questions, didn't proble deep enough or just could not associate other known rubrics as in this case, you still will not come out ahead.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono
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Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 7:17 pm
by Ellen Madono
Dear Joy and Barbara,
Carc and Med are both high up there. Especially Carc. He hears the devil's voice that brings up Anac. but since his mother left he is not violent although may be cruel to aninmals.
Blessings,
Ellen

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:23 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Have you any clue how much of this is from the emotional neglect/abuse(?),
and how much might have been there anyway (miasmatic)? It might help to
have information on his infancy and toddlerhood, if that's available?
Shannon

on 9/30/04 12:15 PM, Ellen Madono at ellen.madono@verizon.net wrote:

Re: Rubric search

Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:30 pm
by J Lucas
Medorrhinum has a lot of delusions and visions of animals especially those
that often cause so much anxiety in people - rats, mice and various insects
crawling out of corners. In their despair and anxiety they will often adopt
a cruel attitude to all animals in an attempt to fend off this overpowering
influence - basically an 'out of control' state.

Carcinosin very often have a compensating relationship with animals as they
prefer them, for various reasons, to humans.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

on 30/9/04 6:18 pm, Ellen Madono at ellen.madono@verizon.net wrote:

Dear Joy and Barbara,
Carc and Med are both high up there. Especially Carc. He hears the devil's
voice that brings up Anac. but since his mother left he is not violent
although may be cruel to aninmals.
Blessings,
Ellen