Minutus

Andy you have to cut the size down? But love the input and passion. Last
round? for the sake of other members?
Physostigma,= is Frodo a Hero at the end? And Frodo does NOT remain
conscious without movement.He fights until the end, even Sam on Mount Doom
is shocked by his determination.
Anac. = does Anac. always curse? and disagree with your "crux" of Anac.You
need to go back to the sensation of a remedy.
Yes Anac. can be a layer BUT he is still in a "like" Anac. state.
NO the only thing that can stall the power or evil of the Ring has to be an
internal characteristic already within the constitutional picture. And that
has to be the inate skill of Anac. to resist evil.
What I find incredible in the analyse is you fail to acknowledge that Frodo
has a capacity to carry the Ring BUT RESIST it. The power to resist it comes
from the Anac. state.

))) MIND; Disposition to want to edit feedback requested for one's own
benefit and book

Well, maybe you can read it on a rainy day.
))) Well, will limit my input for my own sake.
))) "heroes" often fail (forget who said that, but it is verily
true--(Gordon Lightfoot reiterated it in (interestingly in this
context) in his song "If you could Read my Mind"). While any rx can be
a hero in its own way, failure means little regarding the correct rx
for Frodo; unless you are referring to his possibly having finally been
successfully "penetrated" and possessed by Sauron so that he cannot
complete the task of destruction of ring and instead puts it on one
last time. As said, in the latter possibility, Anac could be a layer
IMO.
And Frodo does NOT remain

))) Does determination = anac only? Does determination = inability to
walk up mtn, and fate of being wrapped in a spider web so as to be
immobile? No, one is an intention, the others events. Need more to
prove your idea.
))) Not always floridly. Usually inappropriately. I have seen well
compensated and "healthy" Anacs too--but in stress, they always reveal
that tendency--have to ask their spouse and friends. Any profanity
from frodo?
Well, sensation of anac according to Rajan is "in a very tight corner,
completely controlled and not allowed to move; and the reaction to that
is cruelty (leprosy)" p 91 of Plants I dont think Frodo has a cruel
bone in him. He inherited the ring from his uncle and got a job that
no one else wanted and agreed because he wanted to help (physostigma).
His outbursts of potential cruelty were due to the effect of the ring.
He was able to resist until the end, but why is such an ability
reserved for anac even in the context of no hx of abuse, few other sx.
The anacardaciae have a passive reaction, so that could explain the
eventual inability to carry himself. But does anac really describe him.
Maybe, but have you proven it well enough to publish... It does not
ring true for me, and you have not convinced me yet... If you cannot
convince homeopaths now, then will you by the magic of publishing be
doing them a service later.(?) Are you prejudiced...
Anac is usually quite vulnerable to abuse, and will suffer it as well
as dish it out. "Resisting evil" as a main feature of anac is a
stretch, not something to base a thesis on, IMO.
))) My points have been that this "anac-like state" is artificially
forced and not the nature of his vital reaction. Why I said that anac
is the prophylactic for his journey, while the forcing function in his
VF for the journey is another rx, and Joy has a good hypothesis.
Your thesis basically says that Anac has a special ability to resist
evil because of its previous innoculation with it (the whole idea of
the SPLIT, DUAL person which is the essence of the rx). I dont see
Frodo's previous innoculation by evil, and dont see him as split. But
then I saw the movie, have not read the book in 30 yrs, so you have
much more info. But you have not pulled that info out to prove your
point convincingly and give us (an essentially new) primary attribute
of anac--appear only to be stuck on your conclusion and defending it
ineffectively.

NO the only thing that can stall the power or evil of the Ring has to
be an

))) An interesting thesis as yet unproved as to be Anac's exclusive
province and a main point of the rx state in general as compared to
other rx.

Anac resistance of evil (when person is healthy enough to do so) is
compensatory because of the shared control of their own body by what
they feel is a devil indwelling in themselve(s). It comes about by
having hallmarks of past incursion, which was susceptibility and
failure to ward off external incursion. Where is that past failure in
Frodos history (why asked for past history--orphan, but NOT apparently
an abused orphan which might put fuel on for Anac).
))) You have not convinced me and others in the discussion that this
ability means he was always ripe for anac which would have cured him
before the journey. I thought this was why you posed these quizzes on
the list--to test your hypotheses.

As well, all people that can resist evil to a high degree do not need
Anac. Most people cannot resist evil, the Milgram experiments, Nazi
Germany, and the current underworld hegemony of the globalists show
that as a truism. Prove that those who can resist it are all anac, and
that Frodo is fundamentally that rx even without cursing, fundamental
"split", hx of abuse, itching eruptions, poor memory, h/a, gastric
pain > eating, etc BEFORE he starts wearing the ring; and then you will
have a good thesis on that character.

Other rx can have characteristics that you reserve only for one which
we know well (though your emphasis on their ability to resist evil
(beyond their compensatory propensity to such) may be overwrought). If
you want to invoke Rajan's judgement on "sensation"--here is what he
says for physostigma (Cancer miasm)--"stretching beyond ones capacity
to hold things together"--in the context of "too many things present
and too much disorder". Tell readers how this could not be Frodos
sensation. Frodo may have needed a dose of Anac at the end from
exposure to the toxic ring, but you still have not convinced me that it
was present at the beginning.

Physostigma case with analysis (from Referenceworks)

Diane first came to see me in February of 1998. She was a beautiful,
elegant sixty-year-old from Georgia who had moved to the Pacific
Northwest a few years before. She wanted some relief from her worsening
multiple sclerosis. I found her first words interesting:
"Generally you start at the beginning, but I'd like to start at the
end."
This was curious to me at the time, and now seems quite illustrative of
how a climbing vine might begin to tell its tale.
"I've had more symptoms these last four years, but I was diagnosed
twenty years ago. Now walking is difficult for me because of my
balance. Sometimes I have problems with my vision and I have a macular
hole in my left eye. Recently I have less feeling and dexterity in my
hands and I have a neurogenic bladder. It doesn't empty well. My
initial symptom was numbness in the left arm and then eventually
numbness in both legs. This was in my twenties, around the birth of my
children."
"I am essentially married though I haven't lived with my husband for
two years. Our separation was amicable and my life is better alone.
Both my parents are dead. I grew up in Georgia and lived there until I
was forty. My parents were seemingly successful, although my mother was
an alcoholic. We were raised by servants. My sister was six years older
and she saw my parents as cold and lacking in love. I just thought they
didn't want to be with me - that there was something wrong with me."
Here we can see the often-observed delusion of the legumes - that there
is something wrong with them. Physostigma's feeling of being discarded
or thrown away is reflected in Diane's description of her parents and
how she experienced their attitude towards her. Because she was placed
in the care of servants rather than her parents, she felt unwanted.
Diane continues:
"My father was disapproving and controlling. The only way to survive
was to play the game. He was a very wealthy man, very charming and
dictatorial - someone I couldn't trust. He would say one thing and then
do another. He would give you something and then take it away. There
was no way out...You couldn't ask directly. You would try to make him
think it was his idea. So I couldn't ask for what I wanted nor could I
go against his authority."
Diane's feeling that there was no way out is interesting in light of
her simultaneous feeling of being cast away. Here she feels trapped.
The climbing vine seeks someplace to go and the only solution is to
twist and turn so that the obstacle she is trying to maneuver around
can be overcome. But she cannot move. She cannot exert her will and
successfully ask and receive what she needs. This seems metaphorically
linked to the disease of multiple sclerosis. And quite analogous to
Physostigma, who has the feeling that their muscles do not respond to
the will.
"My mother was just there, but not there. She didn't want to talk to
you. Mother was an alcoholic by the time I was eleven. I couldn't count
on her."
"I ran away from home and was married for sixteen years. I was nineteen
when I had my first child and twenty-one and twenty-five for the other
two. My husband was very gregarious and an alcoholic. I supported him
and our three children those last years of our marriage."
"My second marriage lasted five years. Six months after the divorce I
met my third husband. He spent all his time working and fixing. He'd
bring coffee to you but he would never sit down. He wanted to work, I
wanted to rest.
After a year I decided to move to Seattle. [Now] I have a lot of
support."
This woman is like the climbing vine seeking the strong support of
something. Yet it doesn't support her. She finds herself in marriages
where she is the primary provider, the one who maintains and sustains
the relationship.
We also see the theme of overwork and rest in Physostigma. All the
plants in the Fabaceae family have the ability to fix nitrogen in the
soil, the function of nitrogen being to increase growth of the leafy
parts of the plant. In essence, these legumes provide their own
fertilizer. They are plants that do everything: grow and create fruits
and flowers as well as build and replenish the soil they live in. Just
like these plants, Diane has overworked. She has longed for support but
has supported her husbands instead. Now she longs to rest, to enjoy a
simple life...
"I now find myself keeping a lovely home. I fill it with flowers and
then sit in a chair and read."
She fills her house with flowers and sits down to enjoy them. Scholten
speaks of this trait. He says the remedies in the Fabaceae family long
to enjoy life, a life without trouble or complication - one that is
beautiful, clean, and surrounded by the beauty of nature. He believes
this characteristic comes from the nitrogen element in the plant.
"My life before the diagnosis was very free. I learned a lot. I was
with my second husband and we had no jobs, no money - we really didn't
know where the next dime was coming from."
This is the time when her first symptoms were expressed, a time when
she felt unsure of the kind of support she could count on.
"The first symptoms were in my eyes. It came after an abortion, after
the anesthesia. I couldn't focus my eyes and my peripheral vision was
less. At first I didn't pay attention to it. Later I thought - this is
like I don't want to open my eyes, I don't want to look out. It was
worse if I stood up and looked. I'd almost lose my balance."
"When I was little I was afraid to go to bed, so I would leave the door
open. I had all these colors in my eyes and I thought they were coming
after me. I had nightmares for twenty years until I was forty. I saw a
dark figure in a corner who I thought was trying to get me. I was
terrorized. I'd wake my family up by screaming. Sometimes I'd get up
and run."
It is interesting that Physostigma has many symptoms centered in the
vision and eyes. Even at a young age we see Diane experiencing visual
distortions. Moreover, she interprets these distortions as menacing -
the colors were after her. Later, this symptom evolves to become a dark
figure. We see these symptoms in the repertory as "Vision; colors
before the eyes" and "Delusions; sees spectres, ghosts and spirits."
Later Diane, experiences a blurring of her vision. Again we see this in
the materia medica: "Vision as if there was a film over the eye." Her
nightmares of a menacing figure occur during the time when her physical
symptoms are in remission.
"My first symptoms came near my pregnancies in my twenties. I felt
caught, I didn't want to be pregnant. But then the symptoms went away.
Why did my symptoms come back at forty? It was the first time I was
really free. But I couldn't find my place. Suddenly I had all this
freedom at forty and what do I do but get MS. I thought, now I have an
excuse to say "no"...it's rude otherwise. I just want to please people
at the sacrifice of myself. I come last. I would bend over backwards to
be nice. Otherwise you would be shunned. No one would want to be with
you, and I want people to be with me." Diane felt caught again and
couldn't directly create the life she desired. When she finally comes
to a time in her life when she can create freedom and choose, she feels
that she cannot find her place; she is waving in the wind like a loose
tendril. She can't find it in herself to say "no." Instead, she finds
it easier to bend over backwards to find her support, to avoid being
shunned or cast away. Scholten has said that the legume family has a
desire for help, but that they feel that no one can, or will, help them.
I first chose the following two rubrics:
GENERALITIES; SCLEROSIS; multiple
EXTREMITIES; NUMBNESS, insensibility; upper limbs; left
I then added a combination of all rubrics that suggested a 'forsaken'
feeling, including: MIND; FORSAKEN; and DELUSIONS, imaginations; alone;
castaway, being a; deserted etc.
I saw Physostigma and was curious so I read everything I could find
about it and did a search in MacRepertory and Reference Works and found
the following rubrics that supported my choice of this remedy:
VISION; BLURRED
VISION; COLORS before the eyes
FACE; ERUPTIONS; herpes; lips
FEMALE; MENSES; irregular
RECTUM; CONSTIPATION; general
BLADDER; CONVULSIONS, spasms
EXTREMITIES; AWKWARDNESS; lower limbs
GENERALITIES; FOOD and drinks; cold; drinks, water; aversion
Diane had a variety of confirmatory symptoms as well.
Her numbness began in her left arm, as it does with Physostigma. She
also dislikes drinking cold water and has a history of constipation. I
gave her Physostigma 200C on February 23, 1998.

Follow up Consulations
7 Weeks: Diane came back April 14 and reported, "I saw a great change,
even the first day. I felt more energetic and everything seemed much
easier. I didn't want to sit down. I have better bladder control and my
attitude is better. I have more energy to do things, and better mental
acuity. I feel happy."

3 Months: On May 27 she stated,
"There is an overall wellness. I forget I can't walk as well as I think
I can. My vision is pretty good, as is my balance. I have a little less
dexterity in my left hand. I used to not be able to go anywhere because
of my bladder problem. Now it is not a problem."

6 Months: On September 2, Diane was having more trouble so I gave her
Physostigma 1M. When she returned to the office on October 6, she
reported, "The remedy helped. I notice my bladder symptoms and energy
are much improved."

One year: On March 9, 1999, she started to lag so I repeated
Physostigma 1M again. She had had some dental work with novacaine and
it had fatigued her greatly.

15 Months: On June 1 she reported, "My bladder control is doing great
and my immune system is much improved. I haven't had any herpes
outbreaks and my energy is better. My spirits have been very good. My
daughter had surgery so I had to travel to Boston to help her. It was a
boost to know that I could get along by myself. It is amazing to get
past this fear."

20 Months: On October 25, 1999 I spoke with Diane again. "I feel so
much better since I first came to see you. I was about to have a
catheter inserted because my bladder problems had become so severe. But
since taking this remedy the quality of my life has vastly improved. To
have bladder control is wonderful."
Diane reports that she has not lost any dexterity or feeling in her
limbs over the course of her treatment.
"I feel in a very good space now, more at ease and joyous about life. I
am better at asking for what I want. I don't always get it but that is
true for everybody. If I just let go, everything works out. Whatever is
going to be, will be. I am less surprised when people want to be with
me now. I am able to take that truth in and know I am a pleasure to be
with. I feel more compassion for myself and others now, and I live in
that space of peace more and more."
Because multiple sclerosis is a progressively deteriorating disease, I
am pleased with the progress to date with Diane. I feel we have brought
some health back, though we still see some progression of her disease.
I feel hopeful of further progress because of the healing she has done
in the emotional sphere.
I believe that the main ways in which Diane healed directly correspond
with the center of this remedy. For me, the essential emotional
symptoms of Physostigma include the feeling of being cast away and the
longing for support, yet feeling undeserving.
This is coupled with the tendency to overwork, all the while longing
for rest and simple beauty.
Diane felt cast aside by her parents and surprised when people would
want to spend time with her. Now she knows people enjoy her and she
embraces that truth. She used to feel undeserving of the help of
others. Now she feels more able to ask for what she wants. She
understands that at times she may receive this and at other times not.
But now when others choose not to help, she knows it is not about her
or some wrong she has done. She believed in the past that she needed to
overwork to get what she wanted. Now she accepts what the universe
provides.
Physostigma's main expression on the physical level is seen in vision
changes, palpitations, constipation, and muscular numbness, weakness,
and paralysis, especially of the left arm. This weakness is common to
the legume family as a whole.
Lathyrus, Indigo, Baptisia and others all experience muscular weakness.
The limitations of motility that are seen in this family of remedies
are compelling because these plants survive by climbing. They need to
move and wind their way to more light and greater space. These plants
also have a need for support, as do the people who need these remedies.
They long for someone to depend on, yet feel so undeserving. They are
hopeless of ever receiving help, often because they feel they have done
some wrong. And because they feel undeserving they must overfunction or
work harder to secure the support they need. In the plant we see this
in their ability to provide their own fertilizer. In the patient we see
this over functioning juxtaposed with a longing for a simple life, a
life that will restore a sense of beauty and nurturance.
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