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Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 3:59 pm
by Liz Lalor
This is admittedly a strange request BUT I am writing an article on the constitutional types of Frodo and Gollem from Lord of The Rings and is there a member of this site that is a BIG fan (must know the book and film very well) that I could run something by???

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Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 4:17 pm
by Shannon Nelson
How fun!
I only know them "pretty well", so you can no doubt do better, but surely
Gollum would have to be syphilitic?
Shannon

on 9/21/04 8:59 AM, liz lalor at lalor@ozonline.com.au wrote:

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 7:23 pm
by Hennie Duits
This may not help very much, but in terms of Bachremedies I'd say Frodo
would be Oak, and the 'bad' part of Gollum probably would be Willow.

Hennie

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:32 pm
by J Lucas
Nice idea - I am also in the process of building a rubric and remedy link to
famous names for my web site and so I interested in this.

Without writing a thesis... fundamentally Lord of the Rings is about war and
the classic good against evil, driven by greed. As you will know the Gollum
evolved out of this dichotomy of good and evil - he tried to take the ring
from Baggins in his past life, nearly killed him for it and through time
mutated into the naked, almost reptile like creature that still had the
duality of good and evil. He certainly wasn't all bad, just easily seduced
by the golden ring which eventually led to his downfall. Even Baggins only
just managed to avoid the terrible pull of the powerful ring. But the Gollum
is whatever you want it to be - that is his secret (a sycotic trait).

He paid the ever lasting penance of his bodily image and his never ending
dilemma.

In many ways Frodo is no different. He was given unthinkable responsibility
which he endured only by a special companion AND the Gollum - who did try
his best to overcome the evil within. But Frodo too suffered the pull of the
power and came close to losing his intentions as well as his life. The
difference between the two is an apparent innocence in Frodo but a duplicity
in Gollum.

Hope I qualify as a fan :-)

Best wishes, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 21/9/04 2:59 pm, liz lalor at lalor@ozonline.com.au wrote:

This is admittedly a strange request BUT I am writing an article on the
constitutional types of Frodo and Gollem from Lord of The Rings and is there
a member of this site that is a BIG fan (must know the book and film very
well) that I could run something by???
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 10:22 pm
by andyh
Hi LIz, I'm a fan. Read the books some 30 yrs ago but remember them
well. Movies were great.

ONe idea for Gollum--Abrotanum--Grandgeorge calls them the spiritual
vampire and I had a case like that. It is a childhood rx with
discharge from umbilicus--some kind of nourishment issue, --and Gollum
is a reverted reptilian of some kind --possessed by evil and caught
between master/slave dichotomy. Just an idea. Some reptilian rx might
also fit. The possessed and possessive and ontologically regressed
would have to be covered by the rx.

Frodo--no ideas at present. What are your questionss....

Best,
Andy

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 1:34 pm
by Hennie Duits
Gollum: Regarding dark, deep, very powerful, long lasting effects, and
associations with destructive energy: maybe think towards the sphere of
Plutonium etc.?

Hennie

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 2:58 pm
by d_barbara_hamilton
Hi,

I love the way we all see different things - a friend saw Anacardium
for instance.

I think the raw fish is a bit of a 'red herring' (pun intended)! He
is after all half 'wild', but if you combine some rubrics, it
interestingly comes up with Tarentula (which is certainly as
destructive
and cunning as Gollum has been, and he did kill to get the Ring ...)

Fish desires (54)
Antagonism self with (3)
Avarice (63)
Singing (399)
Steals (102)
Kleptomania (41)
Cunning (41)
Devious (12)
Malicious (178)
Kill desire to (77)
Hurried (505) (He's always telling Frodo and Sam to hurry)

In the nearest rep to animal behaviour I can get, Francia's horse
behaviour gives this:

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Any more offers ! Great fun. :-)

Regards, Barbara

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Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 7:38 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
Should scorpion be included in this differential? Rosemary

Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:09 pm
by d_barbara_hamilton
Your guess is as good as mine! That's the fun of joining in with this one.

Regards, Barbara

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Rosemary C Hyde PhD"
wrote:
aversion
hurried
well?
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Re: Lord of The Rings fan and a homoeopath as well?

Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2004 10:24 pm
by d_barbara_hamilton
Hi again,

Frodo's much more difficult, as Elijah Wood played him very
enigmatically, and I've not read the book. Here's some ideas from the top
of my head, but my first thought was kind of an Aurum template (well, it
looked like a suicide mission!). Other thoughts were a Phos or Carb (Bar.
phos or carb ?), or Silica (as they can be very determined). The rep (not
surprisingly) favours Carc., with Tub. overtones. None of the other
remedies seemed appropriate (Caust, Nux, Calc, Puls...)

Courageous
Fearlessness
Yielding disposition
Possessed? Impressionable
Obstinate/headstrong
Ambition
Naive
Vulnerable
Impressionable/susceptible
Defiant
Anquish
Injustice, cannot support
Monomania
Travel, desire to
Death, presentiment of
Fear, misfortune, of

Smaller rubrics -
Mind; deeds; desire to perform; great
or good
or useful
+
Magnetised, easy to magnetise
Rashness
Honest
Affability
Fear; destination; of being unable to reach his
Fear; attacked, of being
Fear; self-control, losing
Fear; happen; something will, family to, or to him

Over to someone else !

Regards, Barbara

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