Minutus

Can someone give me suggestions for hemochromatosis? Allopathic
treatment is taking out pints of blood (they want 3 pints a week), there
is a concurrent hepatitis.

The onset of both 'diseases' occurred at the same time, or at least were
diagnosed at the same time.

the only real sympomology is exhaustion and skin erruptions (red,
depressed splotches like bleeding under the skin.)
My thoughts are running towards Ferrum phos (client has a lot of phos
characteristics) - This is a case where I would prefer to go low for a
longer period of time, but to suppress the iron (high potencies suppress)
perhaps higher potencies would do better, so will look at LMs.

Any suggestions for viewing a case like this or what I should consider
for rubrics would be appreciated.

(Yes, I took a complete case, or as much as I could get, have some decent
mentals, but would like a field of remedies to consider.)

I do not have permission to post the case, which is why I am so vague.

Thanks for any thoughts, or any information on what to expect on
something like this.
Warmly, Maria

Hi Maria-
Phos is an excellent selection. Phos is indicated inPolycythemia - so.
In your case you should be looking at what can cause fatty
degeneration of Liver... Fatty Liver, cirrhosis liver, Ecchymosis
etc, should be considered. Since there is a deposition of siderin in
various organs - different organ failures can result. Diabetes is a
common result as well.

Vanadium, Picric acid etc. Aurum salts,Ferrum met , Ferr.picricum,
Ferr iod look good. Do not forget Card. marianus- looks very
promising. Leptandra, Anthracinum , Carb.veg, Arg.nit are good as
well.

Give more detail for better search and suggestions, Good Luck
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Maria Bohle wrote:
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Do I remember right that hematochromatosis is a genetic condition? What
results would we be expecting or hoping for from remedies -- is it likely to
be curable, or more likely just to improve the patient's condition, or ??

Also, if prescribing for someone who has this condition but clocks in as a
resoundingly clear calc-c (and it worked extremely well overall), would you
expect to see the blood condition improve, or expect other remedies to be
needed in the future, or ?? (Maybe I'm asking for too much of a
generalization.)
Shannon
on 9/2/04 10:34 PM, hahnemannian2002 at hahnemannian2002@yahoo.com wrote:

An auto-immune syndrome sparked off by hepatitis?
If a straight remedy doesn't work can we consider building up the vital
force with a bit of nutritional sleuthing?
If so, give me a 'mail and I'll be happy to help.
Phil

Anyone have any cured cases of hemochromatosis (excess iron in the blood)? My MIL was recently diagnosed with this. Her symptoms seem to match Arsenicum or Rhus Tox but neither has brought relief.
Swelling and arthritic joint pain in ankles, general coldness, waking at 3 a.m. due to worries about finances, early cirrhosis of the liver, ecchymosis (generally on face by eyes), weight loss, appetite wanting, cadaverous or sweet odor of breath, claiming she feels quite well when she's actually quite sick, feels better once moving.
She begins phlebotomy shortly.
Any thoughts are welcome!
Thanks!
Erica

HI Erica – when I was at college one of my lecturers did a paper on Haemachromatosis and Ferr Sulph – I don’t have a copy of it – but the remedy may be well worth looking at. I will see if I can get a copy of the paper.
There are several dietary things that can be used as well – the opposite of what we tell anaemia sufferers –

Drink black tea with your main meals that have iron in them – as it cuts down the uptake of iron from the food eaten – avoid any Vit c rich foods when eating iron containing foods and eat non-heme (vegetable) sources of iron away from heme sources as this minimizes any iron uptake from the non-heme sources.

Avoid alcohol wherever possible as it exacerbates all the symptoms of the haemachromotosis and increases risk of early fatty liver in sufferers.

Good luck Pauline
Below is an old posting from hannemanian in answer to the one below it from Maria abut haemachromotosis

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Hi Maria-

Phos is an excellent selection. Phos is indicated inPolycythemia - so.

In your case you should be looking at what can cause fatty degeneration of Liver... Fatty Liver, cirrhosis liver, Ecchymosis etc, should be considered. Since there is a deposition of siderin in various organs - different organ failures can result. Diabetes is a common result as well.
Vanadium, Picric acid etc. Aurum salts,Ferrum met , Ferr.picricum, Ferr iod look good. Do not forget Card. marianus- looks very promising. Leptandra, Anthracinum , Carb.veg, Arg.nit are good as well.
Give more detail for better search and suggestions, Good Luck
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com , Maria Bohle > wrote:
there
least were
phos
for a
suppress)
consider
decent
vague.
Pauline Ashford

Homoeopath

130 Ansell Rd Witta QLD 4552

Ph 07.54944101

email: paulineashford@optusnet.com.au
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Subject: [Minutus] hemochromatosis
Anyone have any cured cases of hemochromatosis (excess iron in the blood)? My MIL was recently diagnosed with this. Her symptoms seem to match Arsenicum or Rhus Tox but neither has brought relief.
Swelling and arthritic joint pain in ankles, general coldness, waking at 3 a.m. due to worries about finances, early cirrhosis of the liver, ecchymosis (generally on face by eyes), weight loss, appetite wanting, cadaverous or sweet odor of breath, claiming she feels quite well when she's actually quite sick, feels better once moving.
She begins phlebotomy shortly.
Any thoughts are welcome!

Thanks!

Erica

Thank you so much Pauline for taking the time to post the great info. Very thoughtful of you!
I did not know black tea reduced iron intake as well. I found one study regarding green tea. I will definitely consider the Ferrum Sulph as her personality seems a good fit with Ferrum overall. I'm also looking at Ferrum Phos now. She does not like to be contradicted but would say she is not at all contradictory.
She is also in the position to sell and move from her home, something she does not want to do. Makes me think it's quite literally "building an iron wall" so to speak.
Thank you so much for the references.
Truly,
Erica