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alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:22 pm
by Vera Resnick
Does anyone have any experiences pointing to alternative therapies which clearly antidote homeopathic treatment (and those that don't)? Recent case of a patient where the case was completely muddied after significant improvement after he went to an osteopath and received cranio-sacral treatment. On the other hand, there are homeopaths who say reflexology is OK, acupuncture is not, Reiki is, aromatherapy oils are all beyond the pale - does anyone have any recommendation? In my experience I have seen cases helped along by reflexology and possibly by Reiki, and interfered with by Chinese medicine and sometimes by excessive herbal supplements. Also - any new insights into that greatly feared antidote - coffee?

Vera

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Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:05 pm
by muthu kumar
Vera-
I have used all kinds of medicines in combination. My sense of it is
it is dependent on any particular medicine and any particular
patient. We could NOT generalize it.

Question: In the real world every patient is exposed to so much
influence. People inhale so much smoke, vehicle and industrial fumes,
perfumes, food has so many preservatives and additives and coloring
agents - is there any way any one could escape these things at all?

I have seen homeopaths using Acetaminophen ( paracetamol)for high
fevers along with indicated medicine. Their argument is that the high
fever itself is an obstacle to cure. Once the high temp is brought
down then the indicated medicine would make sure it does not
recur.There are so many records where medicines were mixed in coffee
and administered. I think French homeopaths( Gallavardin in his book
on Alcoholism???) have mixed the indicated medicine in Coffee to give
it to alcohol addicts.

The only question I would have in combining these is knowing which
acted ( homeopathy or the other treatment) and how to follow up. To
change the medicine or not etc. probably it is individual... and that
includes even aromatic oils.
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Vera Resnick wrote:
which clearly antidote homeopathic treatment (and those that don't)?
Recent case of a patient where the case was completely muddied after
significant improvement after he went to an osteopath and received
cranio-sacral treatment. On the other hand, there are homeopaths who
say reflexology is OK, acupuncture is not, Reiki is, aromatherapy
oils are all beyond the pale - does anyone have any recommendation?
In my experience I have seen cases helped along by reflexology and
possibly by Reiki, and interfered with by Chinese medicine and
sometimes by excessive herbal supplements. Also - any new insights
into that greatly feared antidote - coffee?
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Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:19 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
My own experience has been that the worst antidoters are dental work and "cleanses" -- enemas, fasts, etc... Ordinary coffee consumption often is relatively benign, especially with LM ptencies. Some herbs with some people can interfere. Massage, reflexology, chiropractic, acupuncture all seem to be fine.

For what it's worth... Rosemary

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 6:24 pm
by Rosemary C Hyde PhD
On this same topic, I've learned that (following Hahnemann's recommendation about putting remedies in coffee for alcohol addicts) when I've put remedies in food for feral animals, they work just fine. I suspect that a lot of the caveats we learn are based on someone's experience with one patient, rather than on universal experience.

Rosemary

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:56 pm
by Shannon Nelson
My own experience with dental work (on myself only) has been that it will
antidote if drilling happens within the first two weeks after taking the
single dose remedy, but after (roughly) two weeks I haven't had a problem
with it. But no doubt this is individual too!
Shannon
on 8/1/04 11:19 AM, Rosemary C Hyde PhD at rosemarychyde@mindspring.com
wrote:

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:36 pm
by sreischman
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Vera Resnick wrote:
which clearly antidote homeopathic treatment (and those that don't)?
I've found that when substances are involved, whether drugs, oils,
aromatics, they tend to antidote the remedies. With energy work, it
all depends on the ability of the practitioner. Those who can work
with the vital force and with what the remedy is doing tend to not
antidote. Those who aren't able to do so, do antidote the remedies.
I like to try people's work for myself and then keep a referral list
of those who seem able to work with the energy of the remedy.

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 8:43 pm
by Tanya Marquette
can you elaborate on what you mean by "Those who can work
are you referring to?

tanya

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:00 am
by Dave Hartley
David Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco EastBay (510)776-5914
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Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:06 am
by Patricia Hatherly
Dear Vera

As has been indicated in the posts sent on this subject, we need to
individualise and recognise just what it is that needs curing and what the
obstacles to cure are.

I've had cases of Nat-sulph patients who have "bumped along" then done
brilliantly after referral to a cranial sacral therapist for work on the
physical misalignment that occurred at the time of the head injury!

Similarly I've had two cases of little children who consistently presented
in a Stramonium state and I had to ask their (chiropractic) fathers to cease
and desist from "routine" spinal adjustments as such "concussions of the
spine" were feeding the state!

Babies, however, often need such treatment if the birth has been long or
traumatic or there has been much compression of the head in the bony pelvis
during the last weeks of the pregnancy, or even during a protracted second
stage. In my experience our medicines do not fully address such issues and
work well in conjunction with osteopathy or other body work.

kind regards
Patricia

Re: alternative therapies antidoting homeopathy?

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:39 am
by Dave Hartley
In order to manage a case as a homeopath, ideally there is no
acupuncture or craniosacral work, or any other type of potent "energy
medicine" being practiced simultaneously... else you are GUESSING as to
what EXACTLY the remedy is/isn't doing.

Pharmaceuticals are more of a known quantity, and not operating on the
vital level; mostly aromatherapy is pretty subtle, and hasn't been any
problem, though I imagine possible with ultra-sensitive.

Highly aromatic substances such as camphor, tea trea oil, pure mint
oils, etc - have been a problem.

regards,

David Hartley www.holistiq.com
San Francisco EastBay (510)776-5914
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