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OK is this remorse or lacking remorse ?????



This is a very complex case of an 18 yr old who is autistic and possibly schizophrenic. I am having her in again this week for a FOC consultation in the hopes that she may talk to me. It will depend what mood she is in. her first prescription was Bell 200 - one dose which got rid of the voices and "seeing things like me hurting people",, blood stuff and me going in front of cars- but it only lasted about a week I think. She did repeat the Rx after a fortnight but I don't think it had the same effect. Since then she had a massive violent few days which culminated on her being taken to A&E but has now calmed down. I need to know if she is still hearing voices and/or "seeing things". I am thinking of either going up on the Rx or changing to Stram. Or even giving Mum Stram to give her if this happens again. I did try to get out of Mum if there had been any changes but apparently this up and down (really nice , always smiling) is normal behaviour. I suppose Anac is there as well but Bell is the only one for walking in a circle which is what she often does.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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Can you say why you have negated the other remedies in the 'walking circles'
rubrics?

Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 26/7/04 10:14 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

OK is this remorse or lacking remorse ?????



This is a very complex case of an 18 yr old who is autistic and possibly
schizophrenic. I am having her in again this week for a FOC consultation in
the hopes that she may talk to me. It will depend what mood she is in. her
first prescription was Bell 200 - one dose which got rid of the voices and
"seeing things like me hurting people",, blood stuff and me going in front
of cars- but it only lasted about a week I think. She did repeat the Rx
after a fortnight but I don't think it had the same effect. Since then she
had a massive violent few days which culminated on her being taken to A&E
but has now calmed down. I need to know if she is still hearing voices
and/or "seeing things". I am thinking of either going up on the Rx or
changing to Stram. Or even giving Mum Stram to give her if this happens
again. I did try to get out of Mum if there had been any changes but
apparently this up and down (really nice , always smiling) is normal
behaviour. I suppose Anac is there as well but Bell is the only one for
walking in a circle which is what she often does.

Regards
Rochelle
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Hi Rochelle,

According to RefWorks, there are 10 rxs in "walking in circles" -

bell, cic, cocc, crot-c, dubin, Lac-Del, nat-m, staph, stram, thuj.

- And the px I had with this symptom responded to Stram, FWIW.

Regards, Barbara

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wrote:

possibly schizophrenic. I am having her in again this week for a
FOC consultation in the hopes that she may talk to me. It will
depend what mood she is in. her first prescription was Bell 200 -
one dose which got rid of the voices and "seeing things like me
hurting people",, blood stuff and me going in front of cars- but it
only lasted about a week I think. She did repeat the Rx after a
fortnight but I don't think it had the same effect. Since then she
had a massive violent few days which culminated on her being
taken to A&E but has now calmed down. I need to know if she is
still hearing voices and/or "seeing things". I am thinking of either
going up on the Rx or changing to Stram. Or even giving Mum
Stram to give her if this happens again. I did try to get out of Mum
if there had been any changes but apparently this up and down
(really nice , always smiling) is normal behaviour. I suppose
Anac is there as well but Bell is the only one for walking in a
circle which is what she often does.

Thanks for that. What rep are they from or is it from a MM search?

Regards,
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

I only am aware of the following- Do you know of others?

RU, Generalities; walking; circle, in a:, bell[1], thuj[1]
RU, Mind; walk, walking; circle, walks in a: (see MIRILLI'S THEMES; P; walk:), bell[1], stram[3], thuj[3]

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Hi Rochelle,

MM search -
Bell is in Allen and van der Z,
Cic in Murphy, Phatak and Van d Z
Cocc in Allen's Handbook
Crot-c in Hom. 36 Journal
Dubin in Verm. Syn. II
Lac del in N.Herrick's, Links 96, VandeZ
Nat.m in too many to list
Staph in Hom. Recorder and Boenninghausen
Stram in Allen, and VandeZ
Thuj in another six sources

Hope that helps.

Regards, Barbara
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Causticum should be there also. Walking/running in circles is part of the
epilepsy sx.

Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

FWIW, two more via RefWks:
Mag-f (Scholten)
Ratt-r (Jayesh's Rat proving)
Shannon

on 7/27/04 6:19 AM, d_barbara_hamilton at d_barbara_hamilton@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:

Thanks for that as it really shows how incomplete ours reps are!! However I will have to read them in context to see if any of them are relevant to my patient. Thanks also to Joy and Shannon for even more!!!

Regards Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

LOL - I can see the rat one ! Has anyone done a proving of
Hamster? Not quite in circles I guess, but in a straight line and
for all their worth! If I knew how to include remedies in Refworks,
I would do so - unless Andy can explain?

Cheers, Barbara

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