Minutus

I have just spoken to the lad and got some more information. From this I
think I am quiet interested in looking at Gels. more thoroughly and keeping
Nat Mur in the background but still there!!

He gets nausea but has only vomited once.
Thirst - yes for water but I he did have to think about it. He eats when he
wakes while he has the headache but not during the vertigo because of the
nausea. He eats the stuff he snacks on- pot noodles, Super noodles,, packet
soups i.e. highly salty stuff which has probably got MSG in it!! He admitted
that he adds alt to food.
Company - "I want to be left to sleep but want my mum around. I don't like
being on my own . I sleep in her bed because it is softer."
Sweat - from the panic when he first looks at his fingers and realises that
they are blurred.
"I feel hot but I want the covers on."
On asking specifically "Fresh air help but I don't like to go outside
because of the noise. Yes I do have the window open."
Never goes to the beach (we live in a seaside town)
Numbness in the fingers comes when the speech is slurred. The numbness in
the right cheek comes with the left sided headache which pulsates in the
hollow on an angle from the outer eyebrow.
Dizziness tends to start at 10 a.m. when he is taken home from school, he
sleeps 4 hours wakes with the headache, might have a drink and goes back to
sleep. Every time he wakes the headache is weaker.
He has never known the grandparents who died from cancer.
The medication which worked for him was called Pizotifen (This is an
antihistamine and serotonin antagonist structurally related to tricyclic
anti depressants. It acts as a prophylaxis for the prevention of vascular
headache.)

It started about the time of his SATs (compulsory tests at age 10/11) He had
to have a tutor in Maths. "I used to cry in maths tests. My mind would go
blank with a sum like 10+12. I would get worked up and cry. the teacher
would come up to me and I would pull myself together and carry on.

The reaction to the BCG test the first time he had it was that it went a
purple red like a bruise and scarred. he had the test and then the
vaccination the following year - which was probably last year.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on and off list., I am still going
through them.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Personally I think you have massive maintaining causes here with his diet -
changing that alone could possibly eradicate these headaches. But I also
agree with Jean in as much that you have to rule out anything else more
sinister as the slurred speech, numbness and mental inco-ordination etc
could indicate deeper pathology.

But this is why it is so important to grade and rank sx. You really need to
know whether these mental sx etc are truly characteristic to the case or
anxiety based, hypochondriacal or attention seeking or avoidance technique
(school pressure) for example.

To what extent do these strange dreams play a part in the case? I think they
are curious and would be talking to him more about them to see if they too
are truly part of the case or merely just a one off. Likewise with the nail
biting and constant leg movement - I would have talked to him about these -
you might find a background of anxiety or deep sensitivity he hasn't yet
told you about. Again are these important to the case or not. The aversion
to fish you gave 3 stars - to me that is very high ranking but to others, 3
stars might just mean he, like a lot of kids, don't like fish, which is no
big deal.

If, for example, the dream of falling teeth is special to the case then you
might also want to look at Cocculus as it brings in the numbness and mental
dullness as well. Also there is a connection to fish as this substance is
used to stupefy fish, it is a stupefying poison, hence the speech problems
etc and it has dreams of falling teeth, many of the modalities fit as well.

Gelsemium doesn't really have the modalities you have given us - gels wants
open air, stimulants and continued motion in the open air and is almost
bound to have the >>> urination to clinch this as a rx. How does the hot
bath fit into this. Gels is also apathetic when they are ill, he seems quite
anxious and wants oodles of comfort and cocooning.

Sleep >>> seems to be an important modality.

You say that headaches are difficult - they aren't if you can encapsulate
the case and rank sx accordingly.

Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 22/7/04 4:53 PM, rochelle at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

I have just spoken to the lad and got some more information. From this I
think I am quiet interested in looking at Gels. more thoroughly and keeping
Nat Mur in the background but still there!!

He gets nausea but has only vomited once.
Thirst - yes for water but I he did have to think about it. He eats when he
wakes while he has the headache but not during the vertigo because of the
nausea. He eats the stuff he snacks on- pot noodles, Super noodles,, packet
soups i.e. highly salty stuff which has probably got MSG in it!! He admitted
that he adds alt to food.
Company - "I want to be left to sleep but want my mum around. I don't like
being on my own . I sleep in her bed because it is softer."
Sweat - from the panic when he first looks at his fingers and realises that
they are blurred.
"I feel hot but I want the covers on."
On asking specifically "Fresh air help but I don't like to go outside
because of the noise. Yes I do have the window open."
Never goes to the beach (we live in a seaside town)
Numbness in the fingers comes when the speech is slurred. The numbness in
the right cheek comes with the left sided headache which pulsates in the
hollow on an angle from the outer eyebrow.
Dizziness tends to start at 10 a.m. when he is taken home from school, he
sleeps 4 hours wakes with the headache, might have a drink and goes back to
sleep. Every time he wakes the headache is weaker.
He has never known the grandparents who died from cancer.
The medication which worked for him was called Pizotifen (This is an
antihistamine and serotonin antagonist structurally related to tricyclic
anti depressants. It acts as a prophylaxis for the prevention of vascular
headache.)

It started about the time of his SATs (compulsory tests at age 10/11) He had
to have a tutor in Maths. "I used to cry in maths tests. My mind would go
blank with a sum like 10+12. I would get worked up and cry. the teacher
would come up to me and I would pull myself together and carry on.

The reaction to the BCG test the first time he had it was that it went a
purple red like a bruise and scarred. he had the test and then the
vaccination the following year - which was probably last year.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions on and off list., I am still going
through them.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Dear Joy,
You wrote:-


I think this will be very difficult to establish. Personally there is a lot of anxiety about the dizziness. This is what he is saying to me.



The dreams about falling and slow motion I think reflect perfectly the way he feels when he is dizzy. The teeth - I don't know. I remember as a kid and older having reoccurring dreams about my teeth crumbling and I would wake in a half asleep that with the sensation that I had a mouth full crumbled teeth- yuck. I haven't had them for years but remember being told it was indigestion!!!!



I personally believe that these are both quite common symptoms in teenagers. My son age 30 still does both!!


I have looked at this remedy. Fear for the health of others according to Sankeran is very important and therefore i would have expected to hear something along those lines when I asked him for his 3 wishes but all we got were things relating to him. (with the exceptions of the Grandparents and I now know that this is because he had never met them.

> urination to clinch this as a rx. How does the hot
bath fit into this. Gels is also apathetic when they are ill, he seems quite
anxious and wants oodles of comfort and cocooning.>>

But I found
Blurred vision before headaches - italics
Loss of vision during vertigo - bold
Pain head motion agg - italics
Pain heated , from becoming amel - italics
Pain occiput extending to head - bold
Pain sleep amel after - italic (not in Cocc)
Pain temples also lying amel, motion agg
However it is there in Cocculus for pain throbbing temples but not Gels!! Cocc seems to have tearing pains

Re the fresh air- I asked about that so to me it isn't a major thing.



Maybe that's my problem!!!

Overall I am still looking for a Rx I am happy with.

Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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