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entry and main remedies

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:51 pm
by Vera Resnick
A friend travelled to India recently to study with homeopaths there, and he said that a commonly used method is to give patients a dose of an "entry" remedy immediately followed by a dose of the "main" remedy the next day. For example a patient may be given an immediate dose of Ignacia followed by a dose of Nat Mur the next day. This method is apparently often used for treatment of chronic diseases. Is anyone familiar with this method? Pros and cons?

thanks,

Vera

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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2004 7:16 pm
by Shannon Nelson
New to me!
Do you know what potencies are generally used for the "entry" and the
"main", or what the rationale is?
Shannon

on 7/20/04 8:30 AM, Vera Resnick at verares6458@homeopathyhome.net wrote:

Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 12:51 am
by Dale Moss
Vera,

I'm not familiar with it as a general practice, but I did notice Indian
homeopaths sometimes preceding Lycopodium with Lachesis, on the claimed
basis that it speeded up the action of Lycopodium. This sounded bizarre to
me at the time, yet since then I have seen a number of patients who looked
as if they needed just this combination.

Peace,
Cinnabar

Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:42 am
by muthu kumar
I have never seen this done in India. Sometimes they used to give a
remedy and follow this by another one with its complement or a nosode
or whatever. Sometimes it is the remedy that covers the current
symptoms f/b the chronic or constitutional medicine.But never seen it
done as an entry medicine and then following it with the main
medicine the next day. Of course there used to be all sorts of
combinations and there are different schools practising different
flavors of homeopathy-
This sounds so much like French practice though. Do you know which
part of India your friend went to?
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there, and he said that a commonly used method is to give patients a
dose of an "entry" remedy immediately followed by a dose of
the "main" remedy the next day. For example a patient may be given
an immediate dose of Ignacia followed by a dose of Nat Mur the next
day. This method is apparently often used for treatment of chronic
diseases. Is anyone familiar with this method? Pros and cons?
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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 9:35 am
by J Lucas
Actually Lycopodium is one rx that is often stated/advised to precede with a
related remedy first to avoid the well known aggravations that Lyc can
cause. For what its worth.

Best, Joy

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on 20/7/04 11:32 PM, DMH at igan@gis.net wrote:

Vera,

I'm not familiar with it as a general practice, but I did notice Indian
homeopaths sometimes preceding Lycopodium with Lachesis, on the claimed
basis that it speeded up the action of Lycopodium. This sounded bizarre to
me at the time, yet since then I have seen a number of patients who looked
as if they needed just this combination.

Peace,
Cinnabar
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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 11:57 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
It reminds me of my ex-Indian GP who used to give A/B when he had diagnosed
flu (virus infection)

I asked him why he did this?
His logic was that under virus attack the body became weak and he prescribed
A/B to prevent bacterial attack!

This idea is not at all attractive to me.
Either Ign is correct, in which case it MUST be given time to work, or it is
wrong, in which case it should not have been prescribed.

Aph 2:
"The highest ideal of cure is rapid, gentle and permanent restoration of the
health, or removal and annihilation of the disease in its whole extent, in
the shortest, most reliable, and most harmless way, on easily comprehensible
principles."

So please let us concentrate on EASILY COMPREHENSIVE PRINCIPLES.

Please also read Foot Note 1 and let us NOT theorise unnecessarily.

Rgds
Soroush
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A friend travelled to India recently to study with homeopaths there, and
he said that a commonly used method is to give patients a dose of an "entry"
remedy immediately followed by a dose of the "main" remedy the next day.
For example a patient may be given an immediate dose of Ignacia followed by
a dose of Nat Mur the next day. This method is apparently often used for
treatment of chronic diseases. Is anyone familiar with this method? Pros
and cons?

thanks,

Vera
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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 2:03 pm
by Vera Resnick
In response to questions asked, the potencies used are 30, 200, 1M, and my friend was in the general area of Bombay. He said that those homeopaths using this method often won't publicise it, as it's not quite classical... although the two remedies aren't actually given together there is an absence of watching and waiting. The question is if there is clear proven experience with such a method (which either hardly exists or no-one's willing to admit to it...), whether it's worth considering in specific cases even if it's not exactly according to the rules.

thanks for the responses,

Vera

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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:30 pm
by Peter Graham
this is the method of prescibing we were taught at college.
Michele.

Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:33 pm
by Robyn
Which college Michelle?

Robyn

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Re: entry and main remedies

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:49 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Michele,

Could you explain a bit, e.g. how are the "entry" and "main" remedies
chosen, and why no watching in between?

Thanks!
Shannon
on 7/21/04 8:30 AM, Peter Graham at freshash@optusnet.com.au wrote: