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epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 3:30 am
by USAHomeopath@aol.com
In a message dated 10/12/01 10:52:34 AM, frahnama@yahoo.com writes:
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This is an interesting question. My definition is this...
An epidemic is widespread. Everyone is exposed, everyone is susceptible. What
we have now with antrax is hysteria, not even sporadic disease. Three people
worldwide is not an epidemic. There is no group susceptibility, like there
was with smallpox, or cholera. There is no exposure to pathogens, or a group
weakness that contributes to the spread. Anthrx is not contagious. No one is
infected. There is nothing to treat. Fear of disease is the epidemic I see.
Fear of death- fear of our vulnerabiity. That is the epidemic.
As homeopaths, we are to treat the person's state, to treat the individuals.
Worldwide, we all seem to be in a similar state, which is an interesting
condition to find ourselves in.
There is an epidemic, but treating with Anthraxinum is not the cure, because
that is not what we are suffering from.
That humanity is sick, I agree.
That humanity needs cured, I agree.
What is the illness, what does health look like?
(My answer? Health here would look like world peace, unity of the nations.
Much of this is happening. Health is on the way. A great healing IS taking
place. The remedy is being administered. )
It seems to be the genus epidemicus of the "state" many of us are in is
Arsenicum- fear of death, etc. Maybe that is the epidemic we should treat.
Or better yet, how about treating the hatred and predjudice that started all
this in the first place?
Is there a potentized substance that can create peace and love, and remove
hatred from hearts? Sign me up!
M.

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:25 am
by Farbod Rahnama
Dear Melani
You have told: "An epidemic is widespread".How much wide?This is themost
important question.Do you mean 90% of community or 80% or 70% or less?How
much cases of anthrax do you need to think about epidemy?According to World
Health Organisation we had only 3 cases of human anthrax during 1988-1995 in
USA.And now only in few days wehave 3
cases of it.I call this an epidemy.
I add again that I am not agree with using a prophilactic remedy at this
time.So we have the question unanswered.What is the difference between
epidic disease and sporadicdisease?
Here we are confronted with two various epidemy: 1-epidemy of anthrax in USA
2-Epidemic state of fear all around the world.Lets talk only about the first
one.
Best regards
Farbod Rahnama

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 11:55 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
The word Epidemic has its roots in Greek Epidemia.
This means that it is a WIDE SPREAD occurrence of the disease in a given
population. It may be localised, but with modern transport, it now quickly
spreads across the country and the world.

An acute disease is regarded as an epidemic when something like 10-20% of
population is suffering from it - e.g. the flu that we experienced in
1998-9.

It becomes 'pandemic' when populations across the world have the same
epidemic.

[It is endemic, if the disease is there all the time but different patients
show it from time to time - e.g. malaria]

Sporadic means occurring in a few cases.

If the anthrax case is limited to the 3/4 cases that have been reported,
then we a sporadic disease. We may be facing with a normal occurrence of the
disease which was relatively common in the wool industry - especially the
cutaneous type.

But if another Andrew McV is trying to strike terror - because of the
heightened state of alert - he has succeeded.

As I stated in an earlier post, Anthrax can have an incubation period of up
to 6 weeks or so if there has been a deliberate contamination (I am
concerned that the latest case had touched a powder sent to her through the
post) then it will spread fast and WHOOSH you have loads of cases being
reported. The problem is that in the old days most of the population came
into daily contact with animals and had probably developed some kind of
immunity. However, today with minimal contact (if any at all) with farm
yard animals and also higher susceptibility because of the previous
vaccination programmes, I feel that most of the population in the developed
world and especially in large cities are vulnerable.

I suggest we all read up on the subject - Do NOT fear it and be prepared to
deal with it if and when it happens.

Please share your findings.

Regards
Soroush

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 12:38 pm
by Farbod Rahnama
Dear Soroush
Thanks a lot for your usefull answe. These definitions of disease are so usefull specially for epidemiologists or governmental health system. As you our approach to patients who are involved with epidemic disease are different . In cases of sporadic disease we need to do general homoeopathy and in case of epidemics we have another approach to select the simillimum. So as homoeopaths we need another difinition wich may be different from epidemiologists definition.
What do you think
Regards
Farbod

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 3:06 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Read Kent ch 3 para 5!!

Gbnt
Soroush

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 4:00 pm
by Farbod Rahnama
Dear Soroush
I just studied kent and find nothing related to my question.Here Kent tell us how find simillimum for an epidemy.But he doesnt tell when can we use this method and when we have to work accoding to tatality of symptom.
Thanks
Farbod

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 5:04 pm
by isali ben-jacob
In Oriental Medicine we make a distinction between anxiety and fear. Anxiety is not factually based while fear is. Anxiety deals with the what ifs,
while fear deal with what is. Anxiety causes energetic stagnation, while fear causes a derailment. As physicians we need to assist the pt. to transform
their anxiety into fear and construct a response that overwhelms the pathogenic condition. Culturally we rely upon our political personages to make
clear a protocol of response that addresses our societal circumstance. That requires a clarity in expression of the problem rather than emphasising the
protocol of tx.

USAHomeopath@aol.com wrote:

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2001 6:13 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
You are in any case dealing with the totality.

What is happening is that any epidemic has a set of sx that identifies it as
that particular epidemic. Whether this be cholera, typhoid etc etc.

What happens is that you then have patients showing peculiarities within
this set which identifies their remedy.

So for example as soon as you configure the disease sx and its variations,
when the pt say I am suffering from this particular sx, you know immediately
which rx to give them - it will not take detailed case taking and it is
quick.

Rgds
Soroush

Re: epidemics vs hysteria/healing (was Anthracinum)

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 10:01 am
by Ardavan Shahrdar
Dear Ahmed,

Following is the link to an article written by me, 'A
Hahnemannian Approach to Miasms'. It is about
prescribing on the basis of Genus Epidemicus. There is
also a reference to aph 73 in the article.

http://www.minutus.com/miasms.htm

Sincerely,

Ardavan

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