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Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2001 12:31 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
Dear Friends,
Please send me information about the "Trauma and Shock" project, as we are
talking about doing a free clinic in our area for people who feel
traumatized by the 9/11 attack.
Thanks,
Charlotte Gilruth
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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 2:37 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
Would Raha H-Farnsworth please send me a separate message to receive the
Jayesh Shah seminar review? (Your request had no email address for reply)
Charlotte Gilruth:
cgilruth@sover.net
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Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2001 7:01 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
Dear Friends,
I've delayed sending the correct answer to the quiz I posted a few days ago,
about little strings vibrating, creating notes which play out melodies
called 'matter', and symphonies called the 'universe'. This theory,
"defined in ten dimensional hyperspace may allow us to read the mind of
God--the music resonating through hyperspace may be the mind of God."
I gave 7 choices about who said this. The correct answer is C) An
authority in theoretical physics.
Michio Kaku has been called the heir to Carl Sagen as the spokesperson for
science. His goal is to help complete Einstein's dream of a "theory of
everything," a single equation, perhaps no more than one inch long, which
will unify all the fundamental forces in the universe. He has lectured
around the world and his Ph.D. level textbooks are required reading at many
of the top physics laboratories. His last two books, Hyperspace and
Visions, became international best-sellers.
My point in giving this quiz is to challenge people's conception of
"science." So often homeopathy is dismissed as "unscientific," yet from the
above example we can see how far-out cutting edge science really is.
(Remember that the other choices got lots of votes: poet, schizophrenic,
Star Trek character, science fiction writer, mystic saint, and transmission
from the Pleiades! The correct answer received only 1/3 of the votes.)
The idea of science today is like religion in the middle ages: a rigid
worldview that can dismiss (or persecute!) as heretical any nonconforming
opinion. Most of the time when people claim something is "unscientific"
what they are really saying is that they don't understand it and they don't
want to try.
To science!
Charlotte Gilruth
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:30 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2001 1:27 pm
by Tanya Marquette
this information is very useful at this time. but the question that comes up concerns how to deal with the threat of epidemic. there is a big discussion going on about homeoprophylaxis and some in our profession are trying to position homeopathy positively within governmental and allopathic circles by talking about such prophylaxis.
i would like to get some input from people on this list. what are your opinions on dealing with the threat of bioterrorism. and what experiences have people had in treating anthrax, smallpox and other virulent epidemic infections?
tanya
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 4:40 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
Hi Soroush,
Really "reading the mind of God" is just a figure of speech for something
that can't be put into words. Michio Kaku was talking about notes,
melodies, harmonies, symphonies creating all matter and the universe, which
is exactly what mystics say. Direct experience of this "music of the
spheres" is possible--it is a discipline I have been practicing (in my lazy
fashion) for 30 years. (So has Ahmed Currim--we have the same spiritual
teacher.) I do believe that humans have the capacity to make contact with
the infinite. Because our essence, or soul, is part of God, to me it seems
more like a drop merging with the ocean than an object trying to comprehend
its maker.
However, lest I be accused of diverging from homeopathy in the group, the
point I am making is that the thrust of recent science is so hard to grasp
with the intellect, that we can't use science as an excuse for dismissing
seemingly outrageous ideas--like homeopathy.
From the Preface to "Hyperspace", by Michio Kaku:
"Scientific revolutions, almost by definition, defy common sense.
If all our common-sense notions about the universe were correct, then
science would have solved the secrets of the universe thousands of years
ago. The purpose of science is to peel back the layer of the appearance of
objects to reveal their underlying nature. If fact, if appearance and
essence were the same thing, there would be no need for science."
Blessings,
Charlotte
Subject: Re: Science
Dear Charlotte
May be I am being pedantic or obtuse, but as far as I am concerned, you
may - if you are lucky - find the HOW of God's creation, but now the WHY.
That being so, you can not read God's mind!
As I asked before, can the chair know what was in the mind of the carpenter?
Or can a little brick in a building know what was in the mind of the
architect?
However, given an intellect it may be able to find out about its
relationship with other things in the same building (which is what we hope
to be doing), but alas the mind of the architect is not in the building!!
Kindest regards
Soroush
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2001 4:07 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
OK - I understand what you are saying (I think?). However, I still object
to the phrase "Reading the mind of God".
And in terms of the drop returning to the ocean, again it is a POOR analogy
as we are still dealing with creations of God here where as God is outside
one's imagination. If you think you are imagining God, then what you have
imagined is the creation of your mind!! and NOT God.
I was brought up to use the word God with ultimate respect and to be honest
I cannot accept it being used as a 'figure of speech'.
I accept the point about the deep specialisation required for understanding
some of the scientific progresses being made, but I do not see any point in
bring in 'figures of speech' which are not accurate to what you wished to
imply and cause more confusion especially perhaps to those whose mother
tongue is not English or are not used to the usage in your immediate
locality. The other point about the specialisation required, is that while
one is specialising in one aspect, the other specialisations are being
ignored by one or at least unattended. This is why developments often occur
many years after a discovery - someone comes along and puts a few things
together and there you have a workable system.
Lets get back to healing!
Blessings and respect
Soroush
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2001 7:14 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
How was a seminar proving done and how close was it to Hn's proving
instructions?
Soroush
Hi Soroush,
The provings that Jayesh Shah conducted in his 3-year professional seminar
were not strictly formal provings. They were undertaken more in the spirit
of Aphorism 141, in which Hahnemann exhorts practitioners to participate in
provings because of the tremendous amount that can be learned from the
process: "...the best [provings] will always be those that the healthy,
unprejudiced, conscientious, sensitive physican undertakes on himself....He
knows with the greatest certainty what he has perceived in himself."
Best wishes,
Charlotte
Below is an excerpt about our provings from the review I did of the seminar:
PROVINGS
Everything about the course undermined my preconceptions, but nothing more
than the provings we did. Even more than being treated with homeopathy
myself for 30 years, the four provings done by the class took me beyond an
idea and belief in homeopathy as energetic medicine, to experiencing that
truth in every fiber of my being. Jayesh said that a proving is an energy
field of a 10M state of the proving remedy, created by the shared connection
of the group, a ³contact high². With each proving, we learned a new world
view from the inside, which forever changed my view of reality. Even
without ³taking² the remedy for three of the four provings, I was quite
affected by the energy and ended up being one of the more sensitive provers.
But the one proving remedy I did physically take, Rubidium, completely
altered my state, to the extent that Jayesh said I really brought the remedy
to life when I described my thoughts, dreams, and feelings in front of the
class. (We did this on the last day of the session for each proving.) I
was so taken over that I became convinced that Rubidium was my remedy and
repeated it a few times on my own over the next six months. Then a wiser
part of me remembered that ³she who treats herself has a fool for a
patient², and asked for a consultation with a practitioner who has been
studying with Jayesh and his colleagues for years. Now I feel I am on my
simillimum, which is allowing me to bring out my true inner nature from
which I got diverted for many years through childhood trauma, whereas
Rubidium and the other remedies I¹ve taken simply helped me to compensate
better, which I mistook as cure. (Interestingly, though, part of my remedy,
which is Strontium bromatum, is next to Rubidium in the periodic table,
which explains the resonance I felt with it).
A number of sensitive provers showed the remarkable implications of this
energetic connection, in developing strong related symptoms without actually
taking the proving remedy, even before the dose was sent out. For example,
before the Red Pond Lily proving, I was immersed in poems about flowers,
distributing to my friends an especially beautiful one comparing the human
spirit to a flower. Even after my car was stolen from my driveway shortly
before class, I maintained a serene, philosophical attitude strongly
characteristic of the remedy, as was later reported by many of the provers.
During the seminar, I had an experience of acting out what another prover
in Switzerland had previously dreamed! When I exclaimed in amazement as
Jayesh explained this, he said, ³Isn¹t it funny?²
Synchronicity is no less a law of nature than the Law of Similars.
(Psychoanalyst Dr. Carl Jung has written extensively on this subject). We
were all awed by the numerous synchronistic events associated with each
proving. Before the session in which Indian Red Pond Lily was proven, a
number of people had plumbing problems and flooding in their homes. (The
water pump on our washing machine broke). One woman moved into a house with
many water leaks. There were also three ponds on the property, and a
friend sent her a gift of a red water lily! During the session, the Monet
Water Lily exhibit was at a museum in Boston. Several class members played
hooky to go see the exhibit, and were moved to tears. Before the Rubidium
proving, I had a wave of determination to paint my house, which had needed
to be done for ten years. Other class members also did painting, and we
remarked that a custodian at the hotel was meticulously painting trim during
that session, which did not happen at any other time. For some unexplained
reason there was a theme of ³biting² in the White Oak acorn proving
(squirrels?). Class members reported that they felt like biting people, but
even more odd was a number of incidents of their animals being
uncharacteristically aggressive, biting people or other animals. All of
this reminds me of the electricity experiment in school, where the current
is passed through a circle of people holding hands, and anyone who joins the
circle experiences the current. Apparently the circle affected by the
proving energy extended to those whose lives we touched in some way, casual
acquaintances as well as personal relationships.
Critics of seminar provings say that they are not controlled and scientific
enough to produce reliable materia medica on which to base the choice of a
remedy. Jayesh was quick to point out that a seminar proving is not a full
proving, it just gives a taste of the substance. Seminar provings are
tremendously valuable nevertheless. Careful procedures during provings are
important, but those who hope to pin down their understanding of remedies to
printed lines on pages between the covers of a book are missing a big point
of energetic medicine: it is by definition experiential and vibrational.
We have to learn swimming in water, and to learn energetic medicine, it is
necessary to become immersed in other states enough to realize the
arbitrary, though compelling, nature of any given perspective of reality.
This experience of an altered state enables us to more easily enter into our
patients¹ worlds, to understand them from the inside. Then our prescribing
becomes truly effective, because we have moved beyond limiting intellectual
abstractions and ideas to the colorful realms of energy interplay and
shifting awareness.
I would, however, like to see more controls in the seminar provings.
Because provers are drastically altering their states, close supervision
would ensure against going too deeply into delusional beliefs and actions.
Those wishing to take the proving remedy could be systematically matched
with others who have volunteered as supervisors, rather than just presenting
supervision as an optional recommendation. In addition, if each prover or
person noticing changes in their state were to write down those changes and
not speak of them before the group discussion, the issue of suggestion would
be resolved.
I have recently reread with new interest and insight Hahnemann¹s comments
about the importance of practitioners participating in provings:
³(T)hey bring home to him irrefutably the great truth that what is
medicinal in all medicines...lies in the disease conditions and changes in
health which he has experienced in proving them....(S)uch observations on
himself lead him to an understanding of his own sensations, the way he
thinks and feels (the essence of all thre wisdom: Œknow thyself¹).
(F)urthermore,...they make him an observer....He who makes theses trials
on himself knows for certain what he has felt, and each trial is a new
inducement for him to investigate the powers of other medicines. He thus
becomes more and more practiced in the art of observing, of such
importance to the physician, by continuing to observe himself....²
The value of provings lies not only in accumulating a materia medica of
symptoms produced by various substances, but in the effect they have on the
practitioners, helping them to know themselves more profoundly and to become
more astute observers.
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 6:27 am
by Charlotte Gilruth
Dear All,
Here is a letter I've sent to my local newspaper. Feel free to copy any of
it. (I can provide sources for the information cited.)
Blessings,
Charlotte Gilruth
572 Hampshire Hill Road
Worcester, Vermont 05682
802-223-1607
November 20, 2002
Editor, Times Argus
Montpelier, Vermont 05602
To the Editor:
I was disturbed to learn last week that an ominous addition was tacked onto
the Homeland Security Bill which was passed on Monday, November 18: The
amendment would give authority to the secretary of the newly-created
Homeland Security Department to implement universal smallpox vaccination in
the case of a bioterrorist attack. The bill outlines a plan for every man,
woman, and child in the country to be immunized within a week of such an
attack.
This may seem like generous forethought on the part of the government, until
one learns that there will be absolutely no exemptions to the vaccine, even
though there are life-threatening side-effects predicted for 15 out of every
million people vaccinated, with many more suffering severe rashes,
blindness, and inflammation of the brain. The Association of Physicians and
Surgeons has spoken out strongly against this measure, which would be
enforced by an army of 1.5 million volunteers enlisted for the plan.
I strongly object to being forced to undergo any medical procedure I do not
consent to, and feel my choice should be respected in a free society. If
the proposed vaccine works so well, why should the vaccinated many be
concerned about the few who refuse to be vaccinated?
This new policy is all the more objectionable since a safe yet potent
alternative exists. Homeopathy has proven itself in many epidemics,
including smallpox. Dr. W.L. Bonnell, in a report before an association of
homeopathic physicians in 1943, described his experiences with a smallpox
epidemic and Œinternal vaccination¹ with homeopathic remedies: ³Not one
case receiving homeopathic care died, while the Œold school¹ doctors lost
twenty percent of their cases. I gave about three hundred internal
vaccinations....All of these people, exposed daily, [including Œmothers who
slept with their children while they had smallpox in its severest form¹]
were immune.²
If you would like to receive an article about the amazing results of
homeopathic prevention and treatment in past epidemics, along with a list
of ³People Who Should Not Get the Smallpox Vaccine,² please send an email
to
cgilruth@sover.net or a SASE to me at 28 School Street, Suite 1,
Montpelier 05602. It is best to become informed about choices now, because
if any bioterrorist attack should happen--may God forbid it--mass hysteria
will make rational decisions impossible.
Sincerely,
Charlotte Gilruth, CCH
Re:
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2002 8:11 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Charlotte --
Your letter is good, although I have some misgivings about exposing the general public to the idea of homeo-prophylaxis, primarily because of apprehension that it may bring the AMA and "quackbuster" friends out of the woodwork.
As a practical matter, I have a hard time believing there's going to be insistence on getting vaccinated. I'm more upset about the way Bush shielded the drug companies from liability: injured parties will have to sue the Federal Government for compensation. Surely it would have been simpler and more cost-effective to set up a fund to cover vaccine-related injuries. But that, of course, presumes the current administration gives a damn about its own people.
It's beginning increasingly to resemble Germany in the 1930s.
Peace,
Dale