Minutus

Hi Elizabeth,

The last two especially are a stretch, but I'd look at them anyway. Maybe
#2 sounds closes to me.

(from Complete Mill.)
MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; separated; mind and body are: allox., anac.,
arb-m., bani-c., cann-i., germ., hyos., lac-lup., lap-c-b., lar-ar.,
nit-ac., ozone, sabad., thuj.

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; separated; world, from the, that he is:
adam., aeth., anac., androc., anh., carc., choc., ephe., falco-p., germ.,
haliae-lc., hydrog., lac-del., lar-ar., ratt-n., thiop., til-c., tung.,
ven-m.

MIND; CONFUSION of mind; identity, as to his; head separated from body, as
if: allox., cocc., daph., Psor., ther.

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; soul, body is too small for, or that it is
separated from: anac., cann-i., hydrog., nit-ac., sabad., thuj.
MIND; THOUGHTS; general; persistent; separated; mind and body are: anac.,
sabad., thuj.

Shannon
on 1/22/04 3:57 PM, elizabeth oshea at sastacht@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Dear Elizabeth, you really have to explore her comments further rather than
accept the apparent straightforwardness of such an appealing statement.

If "life is in external things" and "my life and body are separate" - to me
this could mean that life is going on outside of her body but there is
nothing going on inside her body, i.e. a kind of deadness and inactivity
within.

I know it is tempting to encourage our clients to talk in 'repertory speak
mode' but it is far better to have them fully explain what they mean in
their own words.

Hope useful, best wishes, Joy

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on 1/22/04 3:57 PM, elizabeth oshea at sastacht@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi Venkat,

I agree that there is nothing strange about seeing "mind as activity", and
understand that a similar experience can come with spiritual development.
But to have this experience occurring in someone who is (I assume) not in a
state of enlightenment, and who (presumably, from the fact that it's
mentioned in casetaking?) is experiencing it as a problem, I think it very
much merits exploring relevant rubrics.

In this case as in every other, the apparent symptom would need to be
evaluated in the context of the whole case. If the patient is someone who's
been productively engaged in intensive spiritual practices and/or having
other experiences of "expanded consciousness" or whatever phrase you'd want
to use, then of course this wouldn't be taken as a "symptom". Otherwise I
certainly think it should be.

(Also, note there are other remedies besides anac which have that sort of
experience...)

What do you think? Hard to say anything definitive without anything more of
the case!

Best,
Shannon

on 1/25/04 6:06 AM, J.VENKATA SUBRAMANIAN at apexpreci2000@yahoo.co.in
wrote:

Bromium has an interesting delusion - that they are on a journey.

Being on a journey essentially means leaving one place to go to another - a
form of separation - a central aspect of this case.

Best, Joy

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on 1/26/04 9:10 PM, elizabeth oshea at sastacht@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Thanks all who replied to my query. The spiritual
aspect of mind as activity is particularly
interesting, especially since this woman's favourite
reading materials are new age self help books.

I'll follow up that in the next follow up. For now, I
went with a mental symptom that _is_ very clear: feels
as if she doesn't get enough air into the chest. It's
in Robert's _Sensations As If_, and it has two
remedies: bromium and ginseng. Scholten says bromium
complements sulphur, and this woman has done very well
on sulphur - we're a it surprised at how well she did.
Many symptoms not related to the main complaint are
now gone, and it cleared her lungs (wheeze and cough
was the main complaint) for about two months.

However, sulphur never touched her feeling that she
often could get enough air, that there wasn't enough
air in the room. I expect the bromium to touch it, and
that the cure will be deeper than sulphur - if you
feel there's not enough air in the room, you're likely
to gasp and subsequently wheeze and cough as you
struggle to breath air that you feel isn't there.

Bromium does touch some of her other symptoms,
especially dust agg - only three remedies in Synthesis
8.1, which surprised me. And this woman had whooping
cough at 3 months old, and of course bromium is known
as a whooping cough remedy.
So we'll see how it goes for the next while, and I'll
definitely be further exploring 'life and body are
separate' in the next follow up.

Thanks again for the help everyone.

elizabeth

Elizabeth OShea
Third Year Student
Irish School of Homoeopathy
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