Potency & Dose
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Re: Potency & Dose
Potency of a well selected remedy is very important as per experience. It acts best in the potency to which the pt is susceptible For which i will site an example which we saw in our (IP) Hospital .
A lady age 55 sx of Rheumatoid Arthritis (both knee joints) had never walked even a step with out pain( since 15 ys). The left leg was so troublesome that she never used walked straight , applied minimum or no wt on that leg so she walked as if she limbed . On careful case taking & repetotsing we got Pull.
so Pull was administered in the 200th potency. Pt Showed much improvement 5% the very next day she was very happy . So we thought that 200 is the apt potency for the pt. That time i was a second year students ( those were the days of our 1st Clinical exposure's ) .The Theory classes were on Homeopathic aggravation .Case being with a few pathological changes we did't expect a faster/better result. She was also in our confidence. So in order to show a homoeopathic aggravation our Professor administered Pulls 1M on the third day of the 1st Rx (with the hope that the potency being high it will produce unnecessary agg. of her sx as usually seen in practice) . But to our Surprise the lady got such great relief that after a span of 15ys she walked straight with in 24hr of administering the 1M potency , She was also able to balance her self to prevent from falling to a unexpected push from back, earlyer she was not able to do so. ( the remedy had to be repeated only after 3 months ) .The way to cure was also achieved faster than expected.
Potency determine the deepth of action on the vital plane, So depending on the reactive power of VF progresses the case. We all know the 1st observation of KENT.In these type of cases LM potency come to our rescue . In our IP& OP we have oberseved that after taking the similar medicine in the LM potency's for a long time most of the cases build up their weakned VF can become Curable once.
Akhilesh Raja
Kerala
Kochi
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A lady age 55 sx of Rheumatoid Arthritis (both knee joints) had never walked even a step with out pain( since 15 ys). The left leg was so troublesome that she never used walked straight , applied minimum or no wt on that leg so she walked as if she limbed . On careful case taking & repetotsing we got Pull.
so Pull was administered in the 200th potency. Pt Showed much improvement 5% the very next day she was very happy . So we thought that 200 is the apt potency for the pt. That time i was a second year students ( those were the days of our 1st Clinical exposure's ) .The Theory classes were on Homeopathic aggravation .Case being with a few pathological changes we did't expect a faster/better result. She was also in our confidence. So in order to show a homoeopathic aggravation our Professor administered Pulls 1M on the third day of the 1st Rx (with the hope that the potency being high it will produce unnecessary agg. of her sx as usually seen in practice) . But to our Surprise the lady got such great relief that after a span of 15ys she walked straight with in 24hr of administering the 1M potency , She was also able to balance her self to prevent from falling to a unexpected push from back, earlyer she was not able to do so. ( the remedy had to be repeated only after 3 months ) .The way to cure was also achieved faster than expected.
Potency determine the deepth of action on the vital plane, So depending on the reactive power of VF progresses the case. We all know the 1st observation of KENT.In these type of cases LM potency come to our rescue . In our IP& OP we have oberseved that after taking the similar medicine in the LM potency's for a long time most of the cases build up their weakned VF can become Curable once.
Akhilesh Raja
Kerala
Kochi
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Re: Potency & Dose
Dear Akhilesh
You outline a very rewarding case for your tutuor and client.
I do not see how it demonstrates a particular fact about potency.
It does demonstrate how we often complicate things when here is a client
showing wandering pains (she can't walk straight) a person that wants to
please (she gets better instantly) and PULS is a good remedy for
arthritis (Nash's three legged stool). We don't know if the 6th 30 or LM
would have worked just as well - and we don't need to theorise - she got
better.
Len Marlow RSHom
You outline a very rewarding case for your tutuor and client.
I do not see how it demonstrates a particular fact about potency.
It does demonstrate how we often complicate things when here is a client
showing wandering pains (she can't walk straight) a person that wants to
please (she gets better instantly) and PULS is a good remedy for
arthritis (Nash's three legged stool). We don't know if the 6th 30 or LM
would have worked just as well - and we don't need to theorise - she got
better.
Len Marlow RSHom
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Re: Potency & Dose
Hi fellow Minutus members,
Thank you all for the thoughtful comments and suggestions on potency and
dose issues as well as specific examples from your case files. This
group is a wonderful resource of knowledge and experience!
Piet, I read Dr. Moorthy's article on Potency Precision
(http://www.neuindia.com) and agree that it raises some excellent
points. I did find it somewhat difficult to follow, with its repeated
use of the terms "positive" and "negative" which are not familiar
homeopathic terms. Also, I question his proposition that altitude,
latitude, and climate in general are important determinants of potency.
If so, a practitioner moving to a different geographical area would
theoretically have to revamp his or her approach to treatment. Have you
or others found this to be true?
Soroush, great insights and great case! I especially like your analogy
of not trying to push a car that is running.
Ardavan, your references to the Organon are well-taken. I recently
reread the Organon cover-to-cover and have since been reflecting on how
extensive and specific Hahnemann's instructions to us were and how
useful they still are in modern practice. "Hahnemannian posology" is the
direction I seem to be going in as well. It is significant to hear that
you have come to this style of practice through experience. Yes, David
Little's articles (http://www.simillimum.com) are a great resource.
One of the obstacles presented by changing from dry pellets to liquid
solutions is the logistical factor. At present, I have a fairly
extensive pharmacy of C potencies right in my office. Changing to LMs or
liquid solutions of Cs necessitates obtaining bottles, instructing
patients in preparation of solutions, and finding a way to preserve the
final product. I like to avoid alcohol due to the cost as well as
contraindications for some patients. Today, another practitioner related
his approach to preparing LM solutions, which I will pass on. He
purchases LM pellets, then places one pellet in an empty 4-ounce bottle
and instructs the patient to fill the bottle with water and succuss and
take as directed. He has the patient keep the solution refrigerated,
which apparently preserves it sufficiently for at least a couple of
weeks. Has anyone else tried this?
Best wishes to all,
Arlene
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Thank you all for the thoughtful comments and suggestions on potency and
dose issues as well as specific examples from your case files. This
group is a wonderful resource of knowledge and experience!
Piet, I read Dr. Moorthy's article on Potency Precision
(http://www.neuindia.com) and agree that it raises some excellent
points. I did find it somewhat difficult to follow, with its repeated
use of the terms "positive" and "negative" which are not familiar
homeopathic terms. Also, I question his proposition that altitude,
latitude, and climate in general are important determinants of potency.
If so, a practitioner moving to a different geographical area would
theoretically have to revamp his or her approach to treatment. Have you
or others found this to be true?
Soroush, great insights and great case! I especially like your analogy
of not trying to push a car that is running.
Ardavan, your references to the Organon are well-taken. I recently
reread the Organon cover-to-cover and have since been reflecting on how
extensive and specific Hahnemann's instructions to us were and how
useful they still are in modern practice. "Hahnemannian posology" is the
direction I seem to be going in as well. It is significant to hear that
you have come to this style of practice through experience. Yes, David
Little's articles (http://www.simillimum.com) are a great resource.
One of the obstacles presented by changing from dry pellets to liquid
solutions is the logistical factor. At present, I have a fairly
extensive pharmacy of C potencies right in my office. Changing to LMs or
liquid solutions of Cs necessitates obtaining bottles, instructing
patients in preparation of solutions, and finding a way to preserve the
final product. I like to avoid alcohol due to the cost as well as
contraindications for some patients. Today, another practitioner related
his approach to preparing LM solutions, which I will pass on. He
purchases LM pellets, then places one pellet in an empty 4-ounce bottle
and instructs the patient to fill the bottle with water and succuss and
take as directed. He has the patient keep the solution refrigerated,
which apparently preserves it sufficiently for at least a couple of
weeks. Has anyone else tried this?
Best wishes to all,
Arlene
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would like to suggest using the filter option available with most
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Potency & Dose
Pulsatilla acts better in high potency than lower potency .It is my
experiencein cases of arthritis it invariably aggravates in 6,30 potencies
and no action in 200 potency.If it is indicated WELL and vital energy of
patient is better ,Pulsatilla to be prefferred in high potency ,even though
it aggravates for short duration it moves the case to cure.But in case
quoted by Akhilesh ,luck of his tutor and Tutuor's client has accidently
coincided
Ramachandra
Hyderabad,INDIA
08:44 PM 9/26/01 +0100, Len Marlow wrote:
experiencein cases of arthritis it invariably aggravates in 6,30 potencies
and no action in 200 potency.If it is indicated WELL and vital energy of
patient is better ,Pulsatilla to be prefferred in high potency ,even though
it aggravates for short duration it moves the case to cure.But in case
quoted by Akhilesh ,luck of his tutor and Tutuor's client has accidently
coincided
Ramachandra
Hyderabad,INDIA
08:44 PM 9/26/01 +0100, Len Marlow wrote:
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Re: Potency & Dose
Thank you for kind comments.
To preserve the LM solutions (or even the C potencies) add about 1/2 cap
full of vodka (it is reasonably cheap). It will keep it OK even at room
temp.
I think if you are going to change to liquids, you need to change your
practice to a degree.
If anyone would like to have a copy of my LM instructions to patients, then
do let me know and I will send it as a word attachment so you can change it
to suit your practise.
Good healing
Soroush
To preserve the LM solutions (or even the C potencies) add about 1/2 cap
full of vodka (it is reasonably cheap). It will keep it OK even at room
temp.
I think if you are going to change to liquids, you need to change your
practice to a degree.
If anyone would like to have a copy of my LM instructions to patients, then
do let me know and I will send it as a word attachment so you can change it
to suit your practise.
Good healing
Soroush
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Re: Potency & Dose
Hi Sorush
I would like to have a copy of your LM instructions
Thank you
Saludos
Eugenio
I would like to have a copy of your LM instructions
Thank you
Saludos
Eugenio
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Re: Potency & Dose
Dear All: Re.: Preparing LM solutions. Ref Organon Para. 248 Footnote 134. 1
tablespoon =15 cc. Preparing solution of 8 tablespoons = 120cc.Putting 1
pellet of whichever LM potency into 120 cc of water and taking 1 tablespoon
(15 cc) of this solution to dilute to 120 cc ("7 or 8 tablespoons in a
glass") and then giving patient 1 teaspoon(one dose) of this is
stoichiometrically equivalent to putting 1 LM pellet into a (dropper) bottle
of 30 cc ( 1 ounce) and taking 4 cc and dilute to 125 cc and giving the
patient 1 dose (1 teaspoon). I have found it very convenient and practical
to : 1.) 1 pellet of the LM potency in 30cc (1 ounce) of distilled water and
following the same instructions except taking 1/2 cc (10 drops). While you
end up giving only 1/8 of the "material" that Hahnemann' method would give,
I have found this very effective after many hundreds of prescriptions. The
great convenience of having a 1 ounce bottle that can be carried in the
pocket or ladies pocket-book is really appreciated by the patiens. Given the
smallness of the dose the VF does not differentiate greatly between (10 to
the minus 10)=1 teaspoon dose and (1/8 or 1/10 of 10 to the minus 10) 10
drop dose before mixing in a glass.One can also go to 1/2 or 1/5 of all the
amounts to have a smaller quantity of liquid.
Using 8 0unce bottles previously I got a lot of complaints about having this
big 8 ounce bottle especially when travelling and measuring tablespoonfuls
or teaspoonfuls.
I would appreciate feedback from our group.
With kind regards to all
Ahmed N. Currim
tablespoon =15 cc. Preparing solution of 8 tablespoons = 120cc.Putting 1
pellet of whichever LM potency into 120 cc of water and taking 1 tablespoon
(15 cc) of this solution to dilute to 120 cc ("7 or 8 tablespoons in a
glass") and then giving patient 1 teaspoon(one dose) of this is
stoichiometrically equivalent to putting 1 LM pellet into a (dropper) bottle
of 30 cc ( 1 ounce) and taking 4 cc and dilute to 125 cc and giving the
patient 1 dose (1 teaspoon). I have found it very convenient and practical
to : 1.) 1 pellet of the LM potency in 30cc (1 ounce) of distilled water and
following the same instructions except taking 1/2 cc (10 drops). While you
end up giving only 1/8 of the "material" that Hahnemann' method would give,
I have found this very effective after many hundreds of prescriptions. The
great convenience of having a 1 ounce bottle that can be carried in the
pocket or ladies pocket-book is really appreciated by the patiens. Given the
smallness of the dose the VF does not differentiate greatly between (10 to
the minus 10)=1 teaspoon dose and (1/8 or 1/10 of 10 to the minus 10) 10
drop dose before mixing in a glass.One can also go to 1/2 or 1/5 of all the
amounts to have a smaller quantity of liquid.
Using 8 0unce bottles previously I got a lot of complaints about having this
big 8 ounce bottle especially when travelling and measuring tablespoonfuls
or teaspoonfuls.
I would appreciate feedback from our group.
With kind regards to all
Ahmed N. Currim
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Re: Potency & Dose
When I moved from the west coast, which is a desert climate, does not have
four seasons, but is always moderate in temperature and has only a dry and
rainy season & is on the ocean, to the mid west, which has high humidity,
four distinct seasons and is land bound, I not only began using different
remedies, I also began to use some different potencies. This would be a
very interesting topic.
Shirley
four seasons, but is always moderate in temperature and has only a dry and
rainy season & is on the ocean, to the mid west, which has high humidity,
four distinct seasons and is land bound, I not only began using different
remedies, I also began to use some different potencies. This would be a
very interesting topic.
Shirley
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Re: Potency & Dose
I also use 1 oz dropper bottles, telling the patient to take 5-7 drops under
the tongue per dose, succussing 10 times before each dose. It's easy for
them, and works just fine.
Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.
the tongue per dose, succussing 10 times before each dose. It's easy for
them, and works just fine.
Rosemary C. Hyde, Ph.D.