Minutus

Please ENSURE that the patient is OFF aspartame.

Aspartame actually precipitates diabetes and also causes may problems
including blindness etc.

Pls see www.dorway.com

Rgds
Soroush

Message: 7
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 11:50:02 +0000
From: "Dr.Naval Kumar"
Subject: Diabetes and complications online
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Elizabeth of course mentions diet.

The diet I want to draw attention to is Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi etc and in
fact anything that includes ASPARTAME.

Aspartame is said to actually cause diabetes.

Please see www.dorway.com

If you need any personal info, please contact Betty Martini (Her details are
on the site).

Rgds
Soroush
Message: 1
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 06:02:35 -0800 (PST)
From: elizabeth oshea
Subject: Re: Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent

Sorry to weigh in so late. It appears to me that
during this conversation people have been confusing
the types of diabetes. The current conventional names
for the main two types of diabetes are:

type I diabetes (which used to be called type II
diabetes)
type II diabetes (which used to be called adult-onset
diabetes)

Conventionally, while both types can produce the same
symptoms and complications, they have different
starting points. These starting points are significant
for alternative treatment of people with these
conditions: type I means the doctors consider an
autoimmune response triggered the diabetes. Type II
means factors such as stress, weight, genetics, and
exercise have created a situation where there is
insulin - often enough or too much insulin - in the
body, but the cells can't use it correctly. These are
two very different disease triggers and paths. In
terms of homoeopathy, this is quite important
miasmatically.

There is no age link that dictates which type of
diabetes. Currently there is an epidemic of type II
diabetes amongst children in the United States, linked
to poor diet and no exerise. I was diagnosed with type
I diabetes at the age of 27. Indeed, I have met people
who were incorrectly diagnosed as type II based on
older disease classifications, because these people
were 'too old' to be type I.

Also, saying someone is on insulin is, I think, a
minor point in terms of constitutional treatment. It
tells us nothing about the disease path. It may
actually be telling us that someone with type II
diabetes has an enlightened/aggressive/ignorant
doctor, depending on context. Someone with type II
diabetes may very well be on a multiple daily
injection insulin regime for 20 years, preceeded by
years of one or two shots a day. But they still have
type II diabetes even though they superficially appear
to be type I.

elizabeth oshea
sastacht@yahoo.co.uk
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On Sep 2, 2008, at 4:17 PM, healthinfo6 wrote:
Hi Susan,
Basically if the treatment is correct, you should be experiencing
improvements! Yes there can be exceptions--periods of aggravation, or
return of old symptoms, or "elimination", but if it's anything you
can't understand on your own (or aren't sure), your homeopath should be
able to explain what's happening. Working with a homeopath who's not
into giving explanations, tho, that is an issue...

Another exception to my glib "definition" is that sometimes the
change is so smooth and feels so natural that the patient doesn't
*notice* the change--so it's very helpful if the homeopath does take
notes, and is able to read back where you were when you began, to
compare with where you are then. And if you're working with a
homeopath who *isn't* taking notes, or isn't into giving feedback, it's
useful if you make your *own* notes just before or after each
appointment, so that you have a record of progress or lack thereof, and
don't have to rely too much on memory. I don't mean anything
extensive, just a quick list of what's better, what's worse or new,
what's a problem, how you're feeling generally.

"Proper and correct homeopathic miasm treatment" doesn't depend on
which class of remedies you're taking (nosode, anti-miasmatic, etc.) or
in what order; it simply depends on how well each remedy given suits
the needs of your own situation at the time, and the way to know that,
is just to see whether progress is being made.

This probably isn't a very helpful answer; maybe someone else can give
a better one.

Best wishes,
Shannon

I don't want to be impolite to anyone, but suggesting 9 medicinies as
a cocktail for diabetes is a bit too much. Specially considering one
of the remedies suggested is Ars-bromQ a strong poison, which if used
for sometime will result in permenant damage and death. In fact we
cannot even get such remedies as Ars-brom Q and ArsQ in India.

Have treated many cases of diabetes I can say the treatment plan for
diabetes can be divided into three parts. Finding the constitutional
remedy. Finding the specific remedy and finding the auxiliary remedy
if needed. Most good Homoeopaths know how to find the constitutional
remedy. It is really not that difficult if you know your remedies
well. So I will not get into that. Here simply the prescription
depends on the mental and general symtoms of the patient.

But sometimes specially if the disease is too far advanced the
constitutional remedy will either not work or even the symptoms
calling for the remedy may not be there. Here you need to find a
specific remedy first before going to the constitutional remedy. But
the choice of the specific remedy depends on symptoms and you can not
have a fixed formula for everybody. Here the most important thing to
look for is the combination of symptoms. For example we have a
patient with diabetes and Insomnia and maybe flatulance and you can
precribe Uran-nit. Another patient has diabetes with pain in right
shoulder and maybe an aversion to eggs and you might consider
something like Ferr-mur. Ars-brom may be needed at times if the
patient has acne along with diabetes, diabetes with gastritis in a
patient who caanot sleep on his back may call for acet-acid, diabetes
with gastritis and pain in knees may call for nat-p. Gastritis with
arthritis where the pains are worse from motion may call for lactic
acid, with skin disease szygium so on and so forth. One specific
remedy which nobody uses is Ars-s-fl here the patient is chilly and
fastidious desires sweets and has aversion to fat. The list goes on
and on.

But diabetes is a disease with many complications here again
Homoeopathy can be quite useful. For example if a part is heading
towards gangrene remediues such as Ars or Secale can come in. For
diabetic nephropathy we have remedies such as Urea, Terebinth,
Cup-ars, Vanadium etc etc.

For neuropathy there are again a few remedies such as Acon-ferox, Ph-ac etc.

There are more than 150 remedies for diabetes that I know of. Each
having an indication.

Having said all this I will also say this is one disease where the LM
potency works much better than the single dose. Specially when giving
specific remedies.

I will also have to say not all cases can be cured with Homoeopathy.
I know people claim 100 percent cure of diabetes with Homoeopathy - I
don't buy that. Insulin dependent diabetics hardly ever get cured
with Homoieopathy.

Best regards
Elham

Ars-Brom Q is normally available in 3CH or 4CH=Q. It is a wonderful remedy for the use of daily bases without any damage. Each drug is a poison what to talk of Ars brom. This is a homeopath who will make use of a poison as a remedy.
And yes there are many medicines for diabetes and one cannot claim to be 100% each time. Complicated cases are there difficult to handle.

Dr.

--- On Fri, 8/20/10, elham mohajer wrote:

Elham,
You provide great info, do you visit the USA? One combo diabetes remedy Dr. Ramakrishnan recommended to me was Dibonil for daily use. I have not yet ordered, it is only available in India. Dibonil contains 7 homeopathic remedies, not sure if it is any more effective than various herbal combos I use for T2 diabetes. I did use Syzgium for months, did not help. That may be because it is indicated for frequent urination, which i don't have unless I eat refined sugar carbs, which I don't.
http://www.sblglobal.com/dibonil.html
I decided to bypass Dr. Ramakrishnan's 4th ed Organon directions and take my constitutional in water per 5th ed. guidelines. Just yesterday my blood glucose was 280 mg/dl after eating some stuff I shouldn't have. I took a water dose of my constitutional and within 1/2 an hour, blood glucose was 170. Since this was a 200C dose, I've found repeating it more frequently than once/week won't help lower blood glucose. Maybe switching to LMs would allow more frequent dosing but since Dr. Ramakrishnan doesn't use those, I would have to go at it solo.
As a hereditary T2 diabetic, I find only constitutional treatment can lead to what may resemble a cure. While there may be 150 remedies to manage diabetes symptoms, that seems more palliative than curative. I also have found that for some diabetics, the issue is not one's pancreas but liver. I have a constitutionally weak liver and find it necessary to do herbal detoxes and only eat foods in natural form vs. processed and/or with additives/preservatives. Maintaining a clean healthy liver can do wonders for T2 diabetes since the liver controls glucose regulation and the conversion between fats and carbs. The #1 allopathic diabetes drug, metformin, works on the liver, not on the pancreas.
As I mentioned in another post, I recently was on Sulphur weekly for 2 months. While it led to truly horrible aggravations after the final dose, after 2 months recovery, I am having lower than before blood glucose when following my diet guidelines. I don't think it is because of Sulphur directly but indirectly by forcing me to make diet changes, like following the D'Adamo blood type diet more closely along with allowing my constitutional to work better.
Susan

Dear DHMS
How do you follow up with your patient's prescription after having given them an un-proved combination?
(For your information Hahnemann discounted such practice!)
Rgds

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. DHMS
Sent: 21 August 2010 06:17
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetes
Ars-Brom Q is normally available in 3CH or 4CH=Q. It is a wonderful remedy for the use of daily bases without any damage. Each drug is a poison what to talk of Ars brom. This is a homeopath who will make use of a poison as a remedy.

And yes there are many medicines for diabetes and one cannot claim to be 100% each time. Complicated cases are there difficult to handle.

Dr.

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But is this homeopathy?
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of healthyinfo6@aol.com
Sent: 21 August 2010 08:19
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Diabetes
Elham,
You provide great info, do you visit the USA? One combo diabetes remedy Dr. Ramakrishnan recommended to me was Dibonil for daily use. I have not yet ordered, it is only available in India. Dibonil contains 7 homeopathic remedies, not sure if it is any more effective than various herbal combos I use for T2 diabetes. I did use Syzgium for months, did not help. That may be because it is indicated for frequent urination, which i don't have unless I eat refined sugar carbs, which I don't.
http://www.sblglobal.com/dibonil.html
I decided to bypass Dr. Ramakrishnan's 4th ed Organon directions and take my constitutional in water per 5th ed. guidelines. Just yesterday my blood glucose was 280 mg/dl after eating some stuff I shouldn't have. I took a water dose of my constitutional and within 1/2 an hour, blood glucose was 170. Since this was a 200C dose, I've found repeating it more frequently than once/week won't help lower blood glucose. Maybe switching to LMs would allow more frequent dosing but since Dr. Ramakrishnan doesn't use those, I would have to go at it solo.
As a hereditary T2 diabetic, I find only constitutional treatment can lead to what may resemble a cure. While there may be 150 remedies to manage diabetes symptoms, that seems more palliative than curative. I also have found that for some diabetics, the issue is not one's pancreas but liver. I have a constitutionally weak liver and find it necessary to do herbal detoxes and only eat foods in natural form vs. processed and/or with additives/preservatives. Maintaining a clean healthy liver can do wonders for T2 diabetes since the liver controls glucose regulation and the conversion between fats and carbs. The #1 allopathic diabetes drug, metformin, works on the liver, not on the pancreas.
As I mentioned in another post, I recently was on Sulphur weekly for 2 months. While it led to truly horrible aggravations after the final dose, after 2 months recovery, I am having lower than before blood glucose when following my diet guidelines. I don't think it is because of Sulphur directly but indirectly by forcing me to make diet changes, like following the D'Adamo blood type diet more closely along with allowing my constitutional to work better.
Susan

Didn't Hahnemann discuss diet as part of homeopathic treatment? I'm certainly the only one on this list discussing homeopathic treatment of diabetes.
What is your diabetes protocol?
Here's something that's not homeopathy: Any Islamic mosque built at the Ground Zero site in NYC will meet certain destruction!
Susan

Refer Boericke MM, dosage.
He is definitely not a fool.
May be a good point to insult me.
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Ars-Brom Q