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Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:06 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Colleague

Patient said: I do not cry because every time I cry I get a headache.

I could not find the rubric in Synthesis - if you know of a remedy with this
symptom, please DO LET ME KNOW.

Thanks

Soroush
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Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 2:17 pm
by Robyn
Saroush what about this one

HEAD - PAIN - weeping; from
aur-m-n.;1;wbt2

wbt2 = Terje Wulfsberg - Three pieces of gold

This one may not be exactly what the right order

MIND - WEEPING - headache, with
antip.;1;vh ars.;1;a1 bry.;1;kr1 chel.;1;a1 coff.;2;k coloc.;1;k ferr.;1;bg kali-c.;2;k kreos.;1;k lac-cp.;1;sk4 lac-d.;1;al lyss.;1;k peti.;1;a1 phos.;3;k phos.;3;kl2 plat.;1;k puls.;2;kr1 ran-b.;1;k sep.;3;k sep.;3;kl2 zinc.;1;kr1

Robyn
"In times of drastic change, it is the learners who inherit the future. The learned usually find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists." (E. Hoffer)

Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:06 pm
by Joy Lucas
Both these sort of suggest that the head pain is causing the weeping - if
nothing more suitable I would opt for 'sad but crying impossible' (for
whatever reason), also 'desire to cry but eyes are dry' also the obvious
'crying aggravates'.

There is also 'headaches from suppressing crying'

What is the head pain that arises from crying - is it like Bryonia which
always gets a headache from coughing or sneezing and any kind of jarring
action?

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 12/22/03 1:16 PM, Robyn at folco@tpg.com.au wrote:

Saroush what about this one

HEAD - PAIN - weeping; from
aur-m-n.;1;wbt2

wbt2 = Terje Wulfsberg - Three pieces of gold

This one may not be exactly what the right order

MIND - WEEPING - headache, with
antip.;1;vh ars.;1;a1 bry.;1;kr1 chel.;1;a1 coff.;2;k coloc.;1;k ferr.;1;bg
kali-c.;2;k kreos.;1;k lac-cp.;1;sk4 lac-d.;1;al lyss.;1;k peti.;1;a1
phos.;3;k phos.;3;kl2 plat.;1;k puls.;2;kr1 ran-b.;1;k sep.;3;k sep.;3;kl2
zinc.;1;kr1

Robyn
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Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:22 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Soroush,

Some possibilities:

MIND; WEEPING, tearful mood; agg.: ant-t., arn., bell., bor., canth., cham.,
croc., cupr., cycl., hep., lach., m-arct., nat-m., nit-ac., puls., sep.,
stann., teucr., verat.

HEAD PAIN; GENERAL; excitement of the emotions, after: acetan., acon., arg.,
arg-n., arn., aur., bell., benz-ac., bry., cact., calc., cann-i., carc.,
cham., chin., chin-ar., chin-s., cimic., coca, cocc., cod., coff., con.,
cycl., dys-co., epip., ery-a., ferr., ferr-p., gels., ign., kali-p., kola.,
kreos., lac-d., lach., lyc., lyss., mez., myric., Nat-m., Nux-v., op.,
ozone, pall., par., petr., Ph-ac., phos., pic-ac., plat., podo., Puls.,
rhus-t., scut., sil., sol, STAPH., sulph., tub., verat.

Best wishes,
Shannon

on 12/22/03 7:07 AM, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:

Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:31 pm
by Tanya Marquette
what about

HEAD - PAIN - weeping; from aur-m-n

tanya

Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:54 pm
by Dale Moss
Soroush,

This is a symptom I've seen recently, but I don't recall that there's any
rubric for it. Try to find out what the link is between crying and the
headache -- is it pressure in the head from fluid build-up or some other
factor? One patient with this sx needed Silicea, another Phosphorus.

Peace,
Cinnabar

Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 9:14 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Hi colleagues

I must say a big THANK YOU to everyone who thought about this and especially
those who contributed.

This very clever young lady (just turned 16) came to me with a diagnosis of
CFS/ME. Almost constant throbbing headache was one of the early issues.

She is very reserved. Lack of confidence comes through as well.

I prescribed Nat-m and LM01 did good but headaches although reduced in
intensity persisted - Bry 30 (and sometimes 200) helped to a degree.
We went up through LM02 to LM03 and although there were improvements I was
unhappy with the progress. The strength had not picked up much and the
headaches kept coming back, although concentration on school work had
improved. I did a quick re-evaluation and tried Puls which did not help at
all.
She then had an acute and even smiling caused headaches to worsen - Spig
helped.

I had had a feeling all a long that there was some thing I was missing and
there was a deeper issue that had not been shared.

So I asked Mum and some info came through and when I saw the patient again I
explained to her that for me to be able to help her she had to help me and
that Homoeopathy was a two way thing. I asked her to level with me and
thank God she did (her mum had left the room to wait outside). There has
been an incident of a sexual nature when she was 11 by a male cousin in his
20's and she said she had FROZEN while it was happening!

2 months before her recent symptoms, she had met the attacker at a family
gathering.

When I asked her about crying she said - What is the point of crying, it
always gives me a headache.

I think she has tried to put things away in her head and uses her
imagination to write stories etc perhaps as a way of avoiding the thoughts
that up set her.

Re-repertorising Staph came through strongly and of course HEAD PAIN;
GENERAL; excitement of the emotions, after; (Thank you Shannon) is
additional support for it. One can see perhaps that something that had been
pushed to the back of the mind was re-awakened by meeting the man again
after a few years.

As always, getting to the centre of the case helps resolve it.

I will keep you posted.

With best seasonal greetings and thanks once again.
Soroush
Message: 18
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:04:04 +0000
From: Joy Lucas
Subject: Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Both these sort of suggest that the head pain is causing the weeping - if
nothing more suitable I would opt for 'sad but crying impossible' (for
whatever reason), also 'desire to cry but eyes are dry' also the obvious
'crying aggravates'.

There is also 'headaches from suppressing crying'

What is the head pain that arises from crying - is it like Bryonia which
always gets a headache from coughing or sneezing and any kind of jarring
action?

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 12/22/03 1:16 PM, Robyn at folco@tpg.com.au wrote:

Saroush what about this one

HEAD - PAIN - weeping; from
aur-m-n.;1;wbt2

wbt2 = Terje Wulfsberg - Three pieces of gold

This one may not be exactly what the right order

MIND - WEEPING - headache, with
antip.;1;vh ars.;1;a1 bry.;1;kr1 chel.;1;a1 coff.;2;k coloc.;1;k ferr.;1;bg
kali-c.;2;k kreos.;1;k lac-cp.;1;sk4 lac-d.;1;al lyss.;1;k peti.;1;a1
phos.;3;k phos.;3;kl2 plat.;1;k puls.;2;kr1 ran-b.;1;k sep.;3;k sep.;3;kl2
zinc.;1;kr1

Robyn
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Re: Remedy Help please - weeping

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 4:39 pm
by J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN
Dear Souroush,
In knerr's rep (page 143, inner head), I found the exact rubric,
headache, weeping- 1 bry, 3coff,1 lyss, 3puls
Regards
Venkat