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[H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:19 pm
by Allen Coniglio
No example would suffice for those who have not studied the subject and no
example is needed for those who have. If anyone really wants to know the
Truth, he should open his mind and work for it. Aren't any of you at all
reminded of the way that the quack allopaths have consistently dismissed
homeopathy without ever having studied it? How is this any different? If you
have already dismissed astrology without having studied it, I remind you
once again - You are the problem!!!!
Isaac Newton is reported to have replied to a disparaging comment regarding
his belief in astrology, "Sir, I have studied the subject, have you?"
I would say to you that anyone who disparages anything without having first
experienced it is unscientific and a twit.
Thank you.
Allen Coniglio
Master Of All Knowledge and 4th Regent Of The Universe
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Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:15 pm
by homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
No example would suffice for those who have not studied the subject and no
example is needed for those who have. If anyone really wants to know the
Truth, he should open his mind and work for it. Aren't any of you at all
reminded of the way that the quack allopaths have consistently dismissed
homeopathy without ever having studied it? How is this any different? If you
have already dismissed astrology without having studied it, I remind you
once again - You are the problem!!!!
Isaac Newton is reported to have replied to a disparaging comment regarding
his belief in astrology, "Sir, I have studied the subject, have you?"
I would say to you that anyone who disparages anything without having first
experienced it is unscientific and a twit.
Thank you.
Allen Coniglio
Master Of All Knowledge and 4th Regent Of The Universe
Parties/Weddings/Bar Mitzvahs
Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:28 am
by Allen Coniglio
I would suggest you read it again. If you really want to know, it will
become clear. Thank you.
AC
Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:15 am
by homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
I would suggest you read it again. If you really want to know, it will
become clear. Thank you.
AC
Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:20 pm
by Simon
no it won't
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Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 8:24 pm
by Simon
I would like to mention that I very much 'believe' in astrology, it does
give useful insights !
Don't use it myself for prescribing though
Me?........( 7.20 am 01021953 london uk)
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Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:00 pm
by homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
no it won't
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Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:15 pm
by homeopathy-bounces@homeolist.com
I would like to mention that I very much 'believe' in astrology, it does
give useful insights !
Don't use it myself for prescribing though
Me?........( 7.20 am 01021953 london uk)
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Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:45 am
by Allen Coniglio
Yes, yes, I have anticipated these comments and, of course, I am prepared as
usual. (Sun square Saturn; Saturn first house conjunct ascendant) As one who
always goes to the heart of any matter (Leo rising conjunct ascendant,
conjunct Pluto, Mercury retrograde in Scorpio in the third house) and leaves
no stone unturned in his incisive (Scorpio sun square Pluto in the 12th
house) and decisive (all of the above and then some), never ending search
for the complete Truth (repeat previous comments plus a stellium in
Sagittarius) but prefers to keep it to myself most of the time (loaded 4th
house, strong Scorpio influence) even though it thrills me to no end to
harass and harangue infidels (loaded first house, strong Sagittarian
influence) so as to transform them from their place of ignorance (Pluto
square Sun in Scorpio) to a place of light (3 planets and ascendant in Leo =
the sun) as I am, underneath it all, compelled to serve the ignorant masses
(ruler of 6th house = service, in Leo and squaring my sun and conjoining
Pluto and Mars in Leo) as I am the friend of all (retrograde Uranus in the
11th house of friends) even though they are unlikely to know it (Saturn
square the sun in Scorpio, Mercury retrograde in Scorpio in its natural 3rd
house of communication = you'll never know who or what I am unless I tell
you - I'm telling you now so I can hit you again later = Mars square sun).
Are you lost yet? Be brave, I'm almost there. Uranus is retrograde in my
11th house which is ruled by Mercury through Gemini, the natural ruler of
the 3rd house. Mercury is retrograde in my 3rd house in Scorpio. Scorpio is
ruled by Mars and Pluto both of which are conjunct my ascendant and square
my sun in Scorpio. None of these things make me stupid. In addition to what
has been noted, aside from being able to intellectually understand things, I
am able to intuit via Neptune (intuition, spiritual inspiration - a
redundancy - You did catch that, didn't you? That was a retrograde Mercury
game.) in the 3rd house of mind. I know that most of you have no or very
little idea of what I am talking about here so, perhaps, I should just say
it directly. I do not think that astrology is a tool that should be put into
the hands of the masses as it is something, that like homeopathy, has the
ability to cause more harm than good to the untrained user and his victims.
It is likely (aside from overcoming the laziness preventing one from
mastering such a complex SCIENCE) that is why most people have no idea what
astrology (like homeopathy) is all about and why people are given to making
ignorant comments about both. If you have a retrograde Mercury in the 3rd
house, you most likely know that ignorant means "uninformed" while in the
common parlance it has taken on the vulgar meaning of "stupid". If we are to
have any chance of communicating at all with each other, we have to be
precise in our terms. That is, we have to know what we are talking about and
to try and understand what the other person is saying. To say that something
is nonsense when we have never studied it is really the height of ignorance.
This is where the allopaths live. They are the most ignorant of all. One
does not have to have a medical degree to be an allopath. One just has to
think, speak and act like an allopath to be so classified. It is not
difficult for me to see that many so called homeopaths (i.e., people who
should know better) can easily be classed among the allopaths. This brings
me to a final (though I can't promise that) point. Thinking wholistically,
it doesn't matter to me and it really should not matter to anyone whether
Isaac Newton ever said what he was reported by some to have said or not
said. I was not there and I could never prove it either way and I really
could not care less. Saying that he said it is just as valid as saying that
he didn't say it and people who would focus on one position or the other are
missing the point. Let me change the name of the putative contestant
(another retrograde Mercury in Scorpio game - Isn't this fun?) to Allen
Coniglio (which in my mind is just as valid as Isaac Newton or ANY other
name) who would reply to an assault on the SCIENCE of astrology (or the
science of homeopathy or the great WISDOM and TRUTH of the Bible) by one
with no understanding of it with something akin to the following:
"Dude, I have studied it. Have you?"
I am no respecter of persons or of self important twits who want to rewrite
history to suit themselves and/or their pathetically narrow, unfocused and
ignorant view of Creation. This is in no way a reference to or an attack on
you, Gini, or on anyone who has an honest heart and an open mind. However, I
would say that if the shoe fits, one might consider wearing it, wherever one
might be reading this from. Again, Gini, I am sincerely not aiming at you in
any way.
I might comment, however, Gini, that the article and the website you
referenced derive from the journal of the Dutch Skeptics. Pardon me if I am
wrong but, are these not part of the international cabal of self described
"skeptics" populated by such as the nonillustrious Paul Kurtz, James Randi
and other professional know nothings and debunkers who have devoted great
amounts of time, energy and money to "debunking" homeopathy and propounding
the blessings of the allopathic way? Not to mention that, in this same
article, much is made of the fact that many long dead Dutchmen, the great
thinkers of their day, went out of their way to prove the relevance of their
own irrelevance by debunking astrology and all other of the great
pseudosciences as they knew them while insisting that their progenitors made
an honest mistake in asserting that the Earth was flat and that it was also
the center of the universe? Really, what did these guys know? These were
self inflated twits of the same order as the book burners, debunkers and
persecutors of our own day. Is it not true that this class has always been
and remains peopled by pointy headed university hooligans who, in actuality
and with a great deal of help, could not manage to think their way out of a
wet remedy bottle? I can only wonder then, Gini, why you would call upon
such pedantic trash to support your, as demonstrated, needless questioning
of my reference to the poor, departed Dr. Newton? Perhaps, you have been too
long on one of their vile campuses and have fallen under their spell? Might
I suggest that this group of charlatans has bamboozled some of you out there
in the land of Oz into believing that they actually know something? Think
"allopath". Please pay attention, my friends. I won't be with you forever.
Focusing strictly on the astrological content of this e-mail, numerous
remedies are called to mind by one who has the training to look for and see
them. Without having studied astrology, however, it would be hopeless to
even make the attempt to use that magnificent SCIENCE to search for a
correct remedy (Notice, I said "a correct remedy", not "the correct
remedy".) for a person or animal. (Animals too?) Yup. Just do their chart in
the normal way.
Is that quite enough, my fellow demon slayers? Although I will continue to
answer questions (yawn), I am growing weary and must soon return to my cave
so that I may better direct the Universe. After all, it is the change of
seasons here on Earth and much remains to be done before the equinox. Adios.
(yet another retrograde game - I do love this.)
ALLEN CONIGLIO
Master Illusionist/Remedy Finder Extraordinaire/Street Guitarist and Barking
Dog
Re: [H] Homeopathy and Astrology
Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 1:12 am
by Simon
Well I'm convinced.
Won't say of what though

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