Homoeopathy - Placebo - Scientific?
Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:11 pm
Dear Dr Waqar - Salaams and the blessings of the Holy Month be with you and
yours.
The columnist from The GUARDIAN in UK was trying to say that Homoeopathic
remedies were placebo.
What I explained to this man was that this assumption was incorrect because
we know for sure that it worked on animals and babies and you cannot fool
animals or babies by the placebo effect. In fact I referred him to a BBC2
programme broadcast from early 1990's which showed exactly this point.
Then as the matter progressed, I challenged him to take part in a
'reproving'.
He expressed fears that he may be poisoned!
So the protocol I proposed to him would runs as follows: (He chickened out
but wrote about the challenge in his column so I give him that!)
We obtain an Agreement from his editor that the results in full will be
published by his news paper.
I choose a remedy. In his presence I open one of my remedy bottles (at 30C),
put about half of the contents in to a new bottle, give one bottle to him to
have tested at an independent lab to ensure he was not being poisoned and
the other half we would place in a mini safe, I hold the safe, he holds the
key or we together lodge it at a bank until he has the material tested and
is happy to proceed.
He has a medical by his own GP to show that he is in a good state of health.
A medical certificate to be issued.
When he is ready, he would have to bring the lab test results and the
medical certificate and attend with a witness from his side - then a
colleague and I check him to ensure he is fit for the ordeal of a
re-proving.
We get him to sign various consent forms and agreement to take part in a
proving with all risks for him.
Based on materia medica, we lodge the predicted symptoms in an envelope and
seal it.
We collect the remedy from the bank together and then give him the remedy
fairly frequently until he starts to show symptoms. [The remedy of our
choice would have affects such as severe pain or diarrhoea and vomiting]
)
We record the symptoms as they develop.
When he has had enough, we then ask him to sign the record of the symptoms
he produces. Then the witness would sign it too.
Then we open the envelope with the predictions.
Then various signatures are collected on whether the prediction matched the
symptoms exhibited.
Then if necessary, we would anti-dote the remedy and stop the proving as
much as possible.
Rgds
Soroush
"Dr. Waqar Taji" |
To: "Soroush Ebrahimi"
Subject: Personal request
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:38:02 +0530
Dear Dr.Soroush,
I would like to go thru your article which you wrote in response to a
columnist in UK who was trying to discredit homeopathy.
Please mail it to me if it is not inconvenient.
Sincerely,
Waqar Taji
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
yours.
The columnist from The GUARDIAN in UK was trying to say that Homoeopathic
remedies were placebo.
What I explained to this man was that this assumption was incorrect because
we know for sure that it worked on animals and babies and you cannot fool
animals or babies by the placebo effect. In fact I referred him to a BBC2
programme broadcast from early 1990's which showed exactly this point.
Then as the matter progressed, I challenged him to take part in a
'reproving'.
He expressed fears that he may be poisoned!
So the protocol I proposed to him would runs as follows: (He chickened out
but wrote about the challenge in his column so I give him that!)
We obtain an Agreement from his editor that the results in full will be
published by his news paper.
I choose a remedy. In his presence I open one of my remedy bottles (at 30C),
put about half of the contents in to a new bottle, give one bottle to him to
have tested at an independent lab to ensure he was not being poisoned and
the other half we would place in a mini safe, I hold the safe, he holds the
key or we together lodge it at a bank until he has the material tested and
is happy to proceed.
He has a medical by his own GP to show that he is in a good state of health.
A medical certificate to be issued.
When he is ready, he would have to bring the lab test results and the
medical certificate and attend with a witness from his side - then a
colleague and I check him to ensure he is fit for the ordeal of a
re-proving.
We get him to sign various consent forms and agreement to take part in a
proving with all risks for him.
Based on materia medica, we lodge the predicted symptoms in an envelope and
seal it.
We collect the remedy from the bank together and then give him the remedy
fairly frequently until he starts to show symptoms. [The remedy of our
choice would have affects such as severe pain or diarrhoea and vomiting]
)We record the symptoms as they develop.
When he has had enough, we then ask him to sign the record of the symptoms
he produces. Then the witness would sign it too.
Then we open the envelope with the predictions.
Then various signatures are collected on whether the prediction matched the
symptoms exhibited.
Then if necessary, we would anti-dote the remedy and stop the proving as
much as possible.
Rgds
Soroush
"Dr. Waqar Taji" |
To: "Soroush Ebrahimi"
Subject: Personal request
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 08:38:02 +0530
Dear Dr.Soroush,
I would like to go thru your article which you wrote in response to a
columnist in UK who was trying to discredit homeopathy.
Please mail it to me if it is not inconvenient.
Sincerely,
Waqar Taji
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]