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Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 3:02 am
by Rhonda Bird
For anyone who has been following my case of child who was throwing
'tantrums'(lying face down on the floor, screaming with lots of saliva). I
ended up giving him Pulsatilla 200 as his last remedy was Puls 30 in March
this year. Mum reports absolutely no occurrence of temper tantrums since
remedy, and is really really happy. No spitting either. Now he has a chesty
cough after drinking milk(that's when it occurred), a real choking cough,
clear from the nose and last night couldn't settle easily for bed. Also had
started to sweat about the head. Dad rang quite late, concerned because the
child couldn't settle, and the cough did sound quite chesty. This is a
child with a history of chesty things. I thought a good result re moods,
and asked the parents to give Calc Carb 30C. Mum will phone me later today.
Does this sound the right direction of cure, or have I managed to push
'something' in deeper?? The parents are such, that if he awoke worse this
morning I would have heard about it!
Too many screaming patients lately!!....
From a somewhat exhausted homeopath
Rhonda
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:02 am
by Rochelle Marsden ntl
Hi Rhonda,
Well done with the Pulsatilla.
What I would do now is to sto[p the milk and all dairy as this seems to upset the child. I have done this with lots of kids and it is amazing how well they do. Parents substitute soya milk and soya yoghurt instead!
Regards, Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 12:38 pm
by Tanya Marquette
what would you suggest for lacto-intolerant people?
tanya
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:28 pm
by Rochelle Marsden ntl
Dear Pat,
The soy milk in UK is free from GMOs and I reckon is fine for a child who is off breast milk. At this age milk does not make the major part of a child's diet anyway. How bad is it compared to other things that a child is given to eat? Believe it or not I have kids in my practice who have never had a home cooked meal but whose parents buy only ready meals. It is also difficult to convince them otherwise!!
Regards
Rochelle
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Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:37 pm
by Shannon Nelson
I agree with stopping milk, but I have read so much about what's *not* good
about soy, especially for children, where the "estrogen mimics" can lead to
hormone troubles for the child. Someone recently posted this link
www.nexusmagazine.com/soydangers.html, August 2003,
which is full of very interesting history of soy, and description of health
issues. (They point out that fermented forms -- miso, soy sauce, natto, and
???) have much longer traditional usage history, and seem to be okay.)
Also, as my children and I have learned the hard way, a significant number
of people are allergic to soy.
Yogurt may be tolerated where milk is not; goat milk/yogurt is usually
better tolerated than cow; the best drink of all is *water*(!!!!!!), and
there are various other "milks" now available -- our family favorite is
almond milk, but rice milk is another possibility.
Just FWIW...
Shannon
on 9/2/03 2:02 AM,
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Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:42 pm
by Steve Scrutton
Yes, but sometimes I think we homeopaths can be rather too 'purist' in our
ideas and perceptions! And for the best possible reasons - I am not knocking
it.
However, the fact is that most mum's will not breast feed for as long as
they idealy should; some won't, some can't - for whatever reason.
The fact is that most people will continue to drink cows milk and will not
move to drinking Soya or any other substitute!
We have a deal with people from where they are. If we can persuade people to
change the habits of a lifetime, and in so doing, swimming strongly against
a strong tide, great. If not we have to deal with the reality. So if we want
to help in these situations, the only thing we can do is to treat the
lacto-intolerance as just that. Any 'intolerance' is the inability of
certain people to cope with a substance that most people can deal with
relatively efficiently. This can be done either by treating the symptoms of
the intolerance, or even by giving the substance in homepathic potency.
Steve Scrutton
Homeopath
"Homeopathy is a safe, gentle and effective medical therapy"
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 1:52 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dear Rhonda, I think I would have given sac lac at this stage - Puls is well
known for the chesty coughs and this might have passed and if not, i.e. it
became inappropriate to the harmonious well being of the child, then you
could have prescribed.
As it is, you had prescribed for a serious condition and the higher potency
Puls appears to be working and time is needed to see how far the sx will
clear. But you have now prescribed another deep and slow acting remedy -
Calc carb - (I know calc can sometimes work quickly as well) so be careful
you don't end up not knowing what remedy is doing what.
Having said that, in retrospect, I think Calc would have been an excellent
choice for the spitting type tantrum state.
Good luck, best wishes, Joy
www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:10 pm
by Shannon Nelson
What about a child (toddler at the time of these reactions) whose response
to milk is to, first, become nasty, cranky and combative, then screaming
night terrors that night (could be more than one), then a large, red boil or
two the next day? This would happen from literally even a tsp. of milk;
more boils from larger amounts. She's now a teen, and is much less
sensitive to it, but if she drinks too much (which is not very much), will
slip back into "that mood" -- nasty, everything stinks and every one, slap
the world away and snarl in its face -- fun!!! (gag)
Any thoughts?
Shannon
on 9/2/03 6:12 AM, Patricia Hatherly at
triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:11 pm
by Shannon Nelson
We like almond milk.
However, my daughter, who is the *completely* lacto-intolerant one (still,
at age 14, argh), doesn't like any of the substitutes, so she just drinks
water and juice. Kind of weird in cereal, but...
For calcium, the best sources are whole foods, leafy greens. (If that isn't
enough, calcium supplements could be good -- but probably in lesser amounts
than what the bottle suggests, and should be balanced with magnesium. Maybe
there are better ideas out there...)
Shannon
on 9/2/03 5:35 AM, tanya at
tamarque@frontiernet.net wrote:
Re: Child who spits - UPDATE
Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 2:16 pm
by Shannon Nelson
So in a child that is not presently experiencing those symptoms -- one that
has been long avoiding the substance -- would you try to reconstruct those
symptoms and treat with a remedy indicated in that way? (I played a little
bit with giving her [my massively lacto-intolerant daughter] lac defl in
potency (she does not react to cream or butter), without much result, but I
think I gave only a few doses of a low potency; I wasn't sure what potency
or posology I should be trying -- what would you do?
Shannon
on 9/2/03 6:42 AM, Steve Scrutton at
stevescrutton@btinternet.com wrote: