severe pneumonia
Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 9:16 am
David Little wrote:
excerpt from Arun:
i think the unusual symptom (compared to an ordinay viral fever) so far
are the suddenness (is there a rapid progression/course as well ?),
severe
breathlessnes and the reduction in platelets/ wbc. Aconite has the
suddenness, dry cough, etc but there is advice in the literature about
acon
not being indicated when there is fever with destruction of blood
corpuscles
etc..
Personally i think ars may be indicated (fever - rapidity - musclular
pain -
breathless - blood destruction) but really cannot differentiate with
other
remedies, more info is needed
regards,
Arun.
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(VERY COARSE repertorization (Complete repertory). This is very
general, not based on symptoms of any individual cases, only on what has
been reported by list members from media reports; but may provide ideas
for preparatory research. Same or similar rubrics in Synthesis
repertory should also be looked at--will provide additional remedies.
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ADDED RUBRIC:
chest; INFLAMMATION; lungs, pneumonia
ELIMINATOR RUBRIC:
generalities; INFLUENZA; general
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RESULTANT REMEDIES (FLU-LIKE REMEDIES ALSO SIMILAR TO PNEUMONIA)
Elimination: Acon., aesc., all-c., ant-ar., ant-i., Ant-t., arn., Ars.,
ars-i., asc-t., bac., bad., bell., brom., Bry., cadm., calc., calc-s.,
camph., carb-ac., carbn-s., carc., Chel., chin., Chinin., dros., dulc.,
eup-c., Eup-per., Ferr-p., gels., glyc., iod., ip., kali-bi., kali-c.,
kali-i., kali-s., kreos., lach., Lyc., lycps., Merc., mill., nat-s.,
Nux-v., Phos., podo., psor., Puls., pyrog., Rhus-t., rumx., sabad.,
samb., sang., Seneg., sil., spig., spong., Squil., stann., Sulph.,
verat., Verat-v.
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IF ADD THE FOLLOWING ELIMINATOR:
generalities; SUDDEN manifestations
******************************************************************
RESULTANT REMEDIES (FLU-LIKE REMEDIES ALSO SIMILAR TO PNEUMONIA WITH
GENERAL SUDDEN COMPONENT)
Elimination: Acon3., Ars.3, Bell.3, camph2., carb-ac2., Eup-per3.,
kali-bi.2, Lyc.3, nat-s2., Phos.3, podo., spig., stann., verat2.
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other rubrics of possible interest:
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fever
FEVER, HEAT; INTENSE heat, 39-40 celsius (K1287, G1062) (89) : abrot.,
Acon., ant-t., apis, Arn., Ars., arum-t., aur., aur-ar., bapt., Bell.,
bry., buth-aust., cact., canth., caps., carb-v., carbn-s., chel., chin.,
chin-ar., chin-s., chlor., cic., cina, coff., colch., Con., corv-c.,
croc., crot-h., cupr., dig., dulc., ferr-ar., Gels., hep., hoit.,
hydrc., hyos., iod., iodof., ipom., kali-ar., kali-i., lach., lachn.,
lap-gr-m., lap-mar-c., led., lob-e., loxo-r., lyc., mag-c., mangi.,
meny., merc-c., Mez., mur-ac., naja, Nat-m., nat-s., nit-ac., nux-m.,
nux-v., op., ph-ac., phos., psor., Puls., Pyrog., Rhus-t., samb., sang.,
sanic., sarr., Sec., sil., staph., stram., stroph., sulph., term-a.,
thlaspi, thuj., tub., vario., verat-v., vip.
fever, heat; PAROXYSMAL fever (p, 45, 17-78) (45) : adam., agar.,
am-m., apis, aran., arn., ars., arund., bac., bov., bry., buni-o.,
calc., camph., carb-v., cham., chin., chin-s., cina, cocc., dros.,
eup-per., ferr., hep., ign., ip., kali-bi., led., lyc., meny., merc.,
mez., nat-m., nit-ac., nux-v., op., plan-m., psor., puls., sabad.,
samb., sep., sil., verat., zinc.
fever, heat; PAROXYSMAL fever; increasing in severity (p, 7) (7) :
ars., bry., eup-per., nat-m., nux-v., psor., Puls.
=======
respiration
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; fever, during (4) : bapt., calc-s., stram.,
thlaspi
RESPIRATION; GASPING (K772, G657) (70) : acet-ac., acon., am-c., ant-t.,
Apis, apoc., arg-n., ars., ars-h., brom., bry., camph., canth.,
carb-an., carb-v., cast., caust., cench., chin., chin-s., chlor., cic.,
cina, coc-c., coff., colch., coloc., cor-r., cub., cupr., dig., dros.,
dulc., ferr., gels., hell., hip-ac., hydr-ac., hydrc., hyos., hyper.,
ip., kali-n., lach., lat-m., laur., lob., Lyc., lyss., med., meph.,
merc., mosch., naja, nicc., op., phos., phyt., puls., samb., spong.,
stram., stry., sul-ac., syc-co., tab., tarent., thuj., verat., vip.
RESPIRATION; IMPEDED, obstructed; breath, as if from want of (12) :
ars., bell., carb-v., chin., cycl., iod., ip., lyc., merc., nit-ac.,
sep., stram.
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; breath; next would be the last, as if (K768,
G653) (3) : apis, bell., helon.
======
blood
GENERALITIES; BLOOD; disorganization of (19) : ail., am-c., anthr.,
arn., ars., ars-h., bapt., carb-ac., crot-h., dor., echi., kreos.,
lach., mur-ac., phos., psor., pyrog., rhus-t., tarent-c.
excerpt from Arun:
i think the unusual symptom (compared to an ordinay viral fever) so far
are the suddenness (is there a rapid progression/course as well ?),
severe
breathlessnes and the reduction in platelets/ wbc. Aconite has the
suddenness, dry cough, etc but there is advice in the literature about
acon
not being indicated when there is fever with destruction of blood
corpuscles
etc..
Personally i think ars may be indicated (fever - rapidity - musclular
pain -
breathless - blood destruction) but really cannot differentiate with
other
remedies, more info is needed
regards,
Arun.
==================
(VERY COARSE repertorization (Complete repertory). This is very
general, not based on symptoms of any individual cases, only on what has
been reported by list members from media reports; but may provide ideas
for preparatory research. Same or similar rubrics in Synthesis
repertory should also be looked at--will provide additional remedies.
================================
ADDED RUBRIC:
chest; INFLAMMATION; lungs, pneumonia
ELIMINATOR RUBRIC:
generalities; INFLUENZA; general
******************************************************************
RESULTANT REMEDIES (FLU-LIKE REMEDIES ALSO SIMILAR TO PNEUMONIA)
Elimination: Acon., aesc., all-c., ant-ar., ant-i., Ant-t., arn., Ars.,
ars-i., asc-t., bac., bad., bell., brom., Bry., cadm., calc., calc-s.,
camph., carb-ac., carbn-s., carc., Chel., chin., Chinin., dros., dulc.,
eup-c., Eup-per., Ferr-p., gels., glyc., iod., ip., kali-bi., kali-c.,
kali-i., kali-s., kreos., lach., Lyc., lycps., Merc., mill., nat-s.,
Nux-v., Phos., podo., psor., Puls., pyrog., Rhus-t., rumx., sabad.,
samb., sang., Seneg., sil., spig., spong., Squil., stann., Sulph.,
verat., Verat-v.
*******************************************************************
IF ADD THE FOLLOWING ELIMINATOR:
generalities; SUDDEN manifestations
******************************************************************
RESULTANT REMEDIES (FLU-LIKE REMEDIES ALSO SIMILAR TO PNEUMONIA WITH
GENERAL SUDDEN COMPONENT)
Elimination: Acon3., Ars.3, Bell.3, camph2., carb-ac2., Eup-per3.,
kali-bi.2, Lyc.3, nat-s2., Phos.3, podo., spig., stann., verat2.
******************************************************************
==============================
other rubrics of possible interest:
======
fever
FEVER, HEAT; INTENSE heat, 39-40 celsius (K1287, G1062) (89) : abrot.,
Acon., ant-t., apis, Arn., Ars., arum-t., aur., aur-ar., bapt., Bell.,
bry., buth-aust., cact., canth., caps., carb-v., carbn-s., chel., chin.,
chin-ar., chin-s., chlor., cic., cina, coff., colch., Con., corv-c.,
croc., crot-h., cupr., dig., dulc., ferr-ar., Gels., hep., hoit.,
hydrc., hyos., iod., iodof., ipom., kali-ar., kali-i., lach., lachn.,
lap-gr-m., lap-mar-c., led., lob-e., loxo-r., lyc., mag-c., mangi.,
meny., merc-c., Mez., mur-ac., naja, Nat-m., nat-s., nit-ac., nux-m.,
nux-v., op., ph-ac., phos., psor., Puls., Pyrog., Rhus-t., samb., sang.,
sanic., sarr., Sec., sil., staph., stram., stroph., sulph., term-a.,
thlaspi, thuj., tub., vario., verat-v., vip.
fever, heat; PAROXYSMAL fever (p, 45, 17-78) (45) : adam., agar.,
am-m., apis, aran., arn., ars., arund., bac., bov., bry., buni-o.,
calc., camph., carb-v., cham., chin., chin-s., cina, cocc., dros.,
eup-per., ferr., hep., ign., ip., kali-bi., led., lyc., meny., merc.,
mez., nat-m., nit-ac., nux-v., op., plan-m., psor., puls., sabad.,
samb., sep., sil., verat., zinc.
fever, heat; PAROXYSMAL fever; increasing in severity (p, 7) (7) :
ars., bry., eup-per., nat-m., nux-v., psor., Puls.
=======
respiration
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; fever, during (4) : bapt., calc-s., stram.,
thlaspi
RESPIRATION; GASPING (K772, G657) (70) : acet-ac., acon., am-c., ant-t.,
Apis, apoc., arg-n., ars., ars-h., brom., bry., camph., canth.,
carb-an., carb-v., cast., caust., cench., chin., chin-s., chlor., cic.,
cina, coc-c., coff., colch., coloc., cor-r., cub., cupr., dig., dros.,
dulc., ferr., gels., hell., hip-ac., hydr-ac., hydrc., hyos., hyper.,
ip., kali-n., lach., lat-m., laur., lob., Lyc., lyss., med., meph.,
merc., mosch., naja, nicc., op., phos., phyt., puls., samb., spong.,
stram., stry., sul-ac., syc-co., tab., tarent., thuj., verat., vip.
RESPIRATION; IMPEDED, obstructed; breath, as if from want of (12) :
ars., bell., carb-v., chin., cycl., iod., ip., lyc., merc., nit-ac.,
sep., stram.
RESPIRATION; DIFFICULT; breath; next would be the last, as if (K768,
G653) (3) : apis, bell., helon.
======
blood
GENERALITIES; BLOOD; disorganization of (19) : ail., am-c., anthr.,
arn., ars., ars-h., bapt., carb-ac., crot-h., dor., echi., kreos.,
lach., mur-ac., phos., psor., pyrog., rhus-t., tarent-c.