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Does anyone know whether the rubric "Want of Truth" (all remedy entries from
Gallavardin) means "Desire for truth" or "Lacking in truth"?

MIND; TRUTH; want of: ferr., iod., mag-c., nux-v., sep., sulph.

Looking at the remedies I would guess it means "desires truth", in which
case this rubric uses "want of" in a manner opposite to the rest(?) of the
repertory -- doesn't it???

Shannon

Hi Shannon,

A "want" of anything means the same thing as a "lack" of something. Eg. a want of self-confidence means a lack of self confidence; a want of truth means a lack of truth.

Regards,
Nancy

Well, I know... But it's a somewhat old-fashioned usage (at least I have
*never* heard anyone actually speak the term that way), and could equally
well mean the opposite (in absence of familiarity with the older usage), and
I'm wondering whether Gallavardin used it that way.

Compare that rubric and the remedies it contains

MIND; TRUTH; want of: ferr., iod., mag-c., nux-v., sep., sulph.

with: MIND; LIAR: alco., androc., arg-n., bell., calc., carb-v., caust.,
coca, con., cupr-acet., kola., lyc., lyss., med., merc., MORPH., nat-m.,
nux-v., Op., phos., puls., sil., staph., sulph., syph., thuj., Verat.

Nux-v and Sulph are in both rubrics, but those are the only overlap.
What is the difference between "Mind, liar" and "Mind, lacking in truth"?
Evidently Gallavardin is not seeing them as the same.

Sigh, it is tricky having a primary research tool that needs to stay
reliable over a long period of time (200 years and counting), while the
language it is based on keeps changing.

Shannon
on 8/1/03 8:33 PM, Nancy Siciliana at nasiciliana@hotmail.com wrote:

re: meaning?
MIND; TRUTH; want of: ferr., iod., mag-c., nux-v., sep., sulph.

Shan,
Interesting question. Maybe it has to do with existential questions and angst. Gallavardin was very into psychological aspects of remedies, and the french can pay quite a bit of attention to philosophically oriented situations (eg Sartre, French film, etc). These would be clinical additions since these remedies were proved most or all by Hahnemann. The remedies in there could have problems with being puzzled about the seeming lack of certainty about what are obvious questions without obvious answers; eg knowing the whys and wherefores of the greater questions of existence
or some missing piece of information which they need in order to proceed.

Mag-c like-who were my parents, and feeling disoriented because of that void
sepia- like-what sex am I or "I am too worn out for existence"
ferrum like what battle should I fight (is there an enemy, who or what is the enemy)
sulph- what is the meaing of existence
nux-v existence is so inefficient and requires so much work
iod--existence is so ponderous, nothing ever gets done in large or complete enough chunks

Just an idea for the hopper- but "lacking truth" could mean lacking what one needs in order to go forward philosophically with existence. Not sure how useful the rubric *is* if this is the meaning, and would expect that it is a very incomplete rubric, since this is a perennial question for most. But some constitutions may have a real hard time with it such that it keeps them at a standstill and becomes one of the issues to be "cured", according to Gallavardin.

Best,
Andy

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Bob&Shannon wrote:

Oh yikes, not very straightforward...
I think I'll follow my first impulse and just ignore the rubric!

on 8/2/03 12:21 AM, andyh@mcn.org at andyh@mcn.org wrote:

Dear Shannon, as an extra to what Andy wrote, I would say there is a big
difference between these 2 rubrics - one is with intent and the other is
without - is one way way of looking at it. But if you take a close look at
the remedies contained with these 2 rubrics you get an idea of what the
differences might be. Many of the "liar" remedies have deep and strong
mental sx in general, not just in being liars, whereas "want of truth"
remedies suggest a more emotional attitude to not quite telling the truth,
i.e. the intention is completely different.

Apologies for being brief but it is an interesting subject comparing
'similar' rubrics.

best, Joy
on 8/1/03 5:33 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Well, I know... But it's a somewhat old-fashioned usage (at least I have
*never* heard anyone actually speak the term that way), and could equally
well mean the opposite (in absence of familiarity with the older usage), and
I'm wondering whether Gallavardin used it that way.

Compare that rubric and the remedies it contains

MIND; TRUTH; want of: ferr., iod., mag-c., nux-v., sep., sulph.

with: MIND; LIAR: alco., androc., arg-n., bell., calc., carb-v., caust.,
coca, con., cupr-acet., kola., lyc., lyss., med., merc., MORPH., nat-m.,
nux-v., Op., phos., puls., sil., staph., sulph., syph., thuj., Verat.

Nux-v and Sulph are in both rubrics, but those are the only overlap.
What is the difference between "Mind, liar" and "Mind, lacking in truth"?
Evidently Gallavardin is not seeing them as the same.

Sigh, it is tricky having a primary research tool that needs to stay
reliable over a long period of time (200 years and counting), while the
language it is based on keeps changing.

Shannon
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Thanks Joy,
So you're saying that the "want" group might not actually be lying, but
might have a certain willingness to just sort of evade the issue, that sort
of thing?

Shannon

on 8/2/03 3:51 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

on 8/2/03 3:12 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Thanks Joy,
So you're saying that the "want" group might not actually be lying, but
might have a certain willingness to just sort of evade the issue, that sort
of thing?

Shannon
Dear Shannon,

To answer you question, yes. For example (from the remedies you gave in that
rubric)

Ferrum - always have to be right, they cannot tolerate contradiction, so
everything they say is true to them but not always to others.

Iodatum - are so driven by restlessness, they live only for the moment and
have no connection with the future, so they are appear very forgetful, which
gives 'truth' a different slant.

Mag carb - very sad, anxious, fearful and dazed states, worn out, with
little inclination to talk, hardly conscious of what they are doing, so
again, 'truth' doesn't mean much to them.

Nux vom - the typical over excited, fiery, angry, impatient and ambitious
Nux vom will bend the truth to suit their ambitions, they don't have time to
sit and ponder whether what they say and do is truthful to others.

Sepia - stasis prevents the truth being told, has a keynote 'says and does
strange things', and 'makes mistakes while writing or reading', and
imaginary illness can seem very real to the Sepia person because they are in
stasis.

Sulphur - too lazy to tell the entire truth, full of philosophy and
intellectual bending of the 'truth', builds air castles, hopeful dreamers,
and there is 'even rags seem beautiful.'

It really depends on the delusional state.

best wishes, Joy
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