Minutus

Isali kindly wrote:
"So, to my query, would you then find acceptance for viewing expulsion as an
action of excretion; ergo, a physiological action?"

It all depends on how you would define excretion.

In my view although in both cases the body is getting rid of something,
expulsion of a foreign object is not the same as excretion.

Excretion is occurring on a cellular level and is the getting rid of waste
products in a healthy state.
In an unhealthy state we either also remove useful and needed stuff (syc) or
have incomplete excretion which would be lead to poisons etc building up in
the body (psora).

The primary organs of excretion are the lungs, bowels, kidneys, and skin. Of
course we also excrete from our mouth, nose, ears and eyes. But all of
these - specially in a healthy body is NATURAL.
Expulsion carries with it a degree of forcefulness - it is not a situation
that is naturally expected to happen but is available if the conditions
demand it.
Putting a diplomatic angle on it, diplomats come and go naturally, but
diplomats thought to be spies are regarded as 'persona non grata' and are
expelled from the country.
Regards
Soroush
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Both excretion and expulsion have a reference to an act of conveyance
outward. As you pointed out most correctly, expulsion is a forceful
removal, and excretion is an elimination of waste as a consequence of
separation of such from the tissue of the body.

I tend to think that a remedy like Sil is applied so frequently for the
purpose of expelling a foreign object, and that this too is pursuant of the
VF separating waste from the body; ergo, excretion.

Further, that cellular actions are always occuring. The citric acid cycle
is operative upon all organsim all the time. What differs is our
perspective, our view of the organism. If you find appropriateness to
consider such actions, as you noted, then we might find some arena of
discussion and synthesis in thinking with our allopathic colleagues and one
another.

It may generate a model tethering all of us.

Your thoughtful reply is most appreciated.

From: Finrod
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 6:17 AM
Subject: [Minutus] Expulsion v Excretion
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Dear Isali, do not forget that Silicea has enormous absorption properties as
well as those of expulsion. This theme follows through within the mental and
emotional levels as well.

Regards, Joy

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Joy wrote:
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Very true -- and brings up again the importance of looking at the whole
picture rather than falling into a narrow
"foreign-body-so-it-must-be-Silica" formulaic perspective.

As far as I can see, Silica will only promote absorption/expulsion **where
it's the indicated remedy**. Absorption/expulsion are natural processes of a
healthy organism and if absorption/expulsion isn't taking place to a healthy
degree, then the simillimum -- whatever remedy it might be -- would seem to
be the most likely remedy to promote those processes.

A few years ago I got a 6mm (1/4") sliver of plywood through one of my
fingers. It went very deep, right across the inside of the top joint, and
couldn't be pulled out. Since it wasn't particularly bothersome and didn't
become infected, I left it to come out of it's own accord. But it never
moved.

So after a few weeks I tried a dose of Silica. Nothing happened. I tried a
different potency. Again, nothing.

It wasn't until a year later, after taking a remedy for an unrelated problem
(well -- only superficially unrelated of course!), that all of a sudden the
sliver started moving and worked it's way clean out of my finger in a little
over a week. The quite substantial amount of keratinised skin which by that
time had built up around it resolved within a month.

The remedy I took has nothing in its proving or published clinical data
related to expulsion of foreign bodies and its general themes only connect
with the idea in vague and very general ways -- ways in which pretty much
any remedy in the MM could be made to do. From my way of looking at it, the
remedy simply triggered the restoration of a healthy state, whereupon my
body did what it should have done to the piece of plywood rather a long time
previously.

Regards
Wendy

Warm greetings. Thanks for the reminder; however, the issue I was
attempting to address was that of physiological function, the action of
excretion vs expulsion, rather than the action of Sil. My purpose is
pondering the possible utilisation of the allopathic construct of the
Matrix; that of fluid movement through varied tissues and aspects of the
organism, and the identification of organ physiological function, as in
excretion; inflamation, etc..

My inquiry was prompted by asking whether there is a distinction without a
difference in the single remedy application when the single remedies are
administered in close sequential order to that of a single multi remedy
protocol. It would appear that clinical observation is affirmatively
suggestive.

I reflect on the value of the wave theory to describe what we observe and to
offer a rationale suppportive of the multi remedy protocol. The issue
becomes one of careful selection of complementary remedies. It seems to me
to further bolster the argument that asserts the need to consider the
totality of a case in selecting an appropriate single remedy so as to
acquire similia.

I value greatly the thinking of learned colleagues as yourself on this
subject.