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acute & chronic diseases

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:39 pm
by isali
Elham wrote: #71
Hahnemann divided diseases into acute and chronic.

Acute are those that start, have a prodromal period remain for a specific number of days and end either in death or recovery. They do not leave chronic symptoms. Examples are measles, chickenpox etc.

Chronic diseases are those that start insidiously and keep on growing from day to day and if unchecked never leave the patient.

Hn states in # 19 & # 17 that a change to a healthy state is a relief of the morbid signs and symptoms, and in #72 that the chronic morphology affects the automatic life force merely more gradually,...and with a useless resistance yields a destructive consequence.

My question to Joy, Shannon, Elham and others is, does not the vital force 'ultimately' suffer a reflection of a destruction of the organism as a consequence of its inherent chronic miasm which may be so inspired by an acute morphological presentation, that establishes a predisposition to manifest or remanifest a chronic miasm?
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Re: acute & chronic diseases

Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 6:16 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dear Isali, I am not sure why you are drawing me into this discussion but I
would answer your point by suggesting that perhaps you are referring to a
"never been well since....." situation - maybe this is the reflection you
refer to. But this would be a chronic state and not an acute.

And also to add that during case taking it is always important to take a
note of any acute conditions that a client has experienced - adds clues as
to the predisposition.

Regards, Joy

edited .....>My question to Joy, Shannon, Elham and others is, does not the
vital force 'ultimately' suffer a reflection of a destruction of the
organism as a consequence of its inherent chronic miasm which may be so
inspired by an acute morphological presentation, that establishes a
predisposition to manifest or remanifest a chronic miasm?
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Re: acute & chronic diseases

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2002 11:55 pm
by elham mohajir
Dear Isali,

Just before I got disconnected from the group I received this letter I started to answer the letter and in the middle it disappered. I am not sure what happened to it.
Anyway I will try to answer it again -though your questions are a bit too deep for me.

The question of miasms: First of all we have to see how Hahnemann came to the conclusion of his three miasms. Probably what happened was that he gave some one a medcine and that person improved to the point that he got his original eruption. In case of psora the "itch" in case of syphillis the "Chancre" and in case of gonorrhoea the discharge. After these appeared the patiend was cured so putting two and two together he came to the conclusion that the patients chronic disease was the result of these suppressions. Then looking at the children of these people he saw the syphillitic, sycotic and psoric traits in them.
Thus the three miasms were discovered. But there is something you have to be careful-Homoeopathy claims to have a law of cure. But hahnemann never suggested that he had a law of disease. So that Whereas SIMILIa similibus Curenter is a law that can not be changed. His discovery of the three miasms was a hypothesis of how most if not all chronic diseases of his time originated.

Later physicians saw that the smallpox(cowpox) vaccine acted also as a chronic disease in suceptible persons and once the patient got cured, the original vaccine site that had not taken (Vaccine were said to be taken if there was inflammation at the site) would become inflamed, even years, showing the disease had come back.

Again joining the symptoms of syphillis and Psora some people came up with the tubercular miasm. And joining all three miasms the cancer miasm was made.

But what we have to understand is that the three miasms prosposed by hahnemann all started with skin manifestations and once they were cured you could see the skin symptoms for yourself. Even the small pox vaccine showed skin manifesttations once cured. But many of the vaccines today have no skin manifestations if they cause chronic miasms how are they cured and how does the body eliminate them? What miasms are they causing. What changes are they producing in our economy. What about the pollutions in air water etc. Genetically modified food(are they beneficial or harmful) we really do not know. What about AIDS. So the situation is much more complex than Hahnemann's time. Again Psora Syphillis and Sycosis have been going on from generation to generation, is it getting deeper and deeper like a potentization. We do not know.

Since we really do not have a 'law of disease' the best thing to do is confine ourselves as much as we can to the law of cure and try to find the similimum. We say give the miasmatic medicine when the indicated medicine fails. But the question is are you sure what you had given was indicated? What may seem indicated to me may seem a blunder to Joy Lucas. Then if I go and try to find some hidden enemy I might get even more off track.

It is good to have the knowledge of miasms and even to prescribe for them but only within the law. That means when we get the similar picture.

As a rule the depth of a medicine must be equal to the depth of the disease. If you prescribe Rhus tux for Ankylosing spondylitis you may get palliation but never a cure. The disease is a deep one and you need a so called miasmatic medicine for that. But what that miasmatic medicine will be, only the symptoms can guide you.

Tubercular meningitis will give all the symptoms of Belladona but Bell will only palliate the fever for one day and the next day it will come back with a vengence. Here Calc. May cure it. Similarly one or two attacks of Migraine may be palliated by Bell. but you will need a deep acting remedy like Silicia to cure it. So it has more to do with the depth of the medicine than anything else. Acute remedies cure only acute diseases but chronic (deep acting) remedies can cure both acute and chronic diseases.

The question is how do we know if a medicine is deep acting or superficial. Most metals are deep acting, nosodes are deep acting, vegetables are superficial acting. Another way to find out is to open the last pages of your repertory and look at the duration of medicines the greater the duration the deeper acting they are.

I will be out of reach for some time. I will be back probably after 19th december.
Best regards
Elham