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Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 3:04 am
by Ruby
Hello!

We have a situation that is fast spreading....

First, we had a kitten with this one eye that was weepy one day, and the
kitten was sneezing. Later that day, the rim of the eye was very red,
and the membrains of the eye were swollen and red, and starting to swell
shut. These are out door cats, who were born and raised in my husband's
shed, by their momma cat. I gave them Tetracycline in their water. It's
eye is still swollen shut, the inside tissues are massively swollen.

Within a day, another kitten had one eye looking like this. I didn't
know what to give the kittens, so went to the veternarian supply house,
and bought some eye salve: " Terramycin" Ointment.

Two days later, another kitten has come down with it. Now, I have kept
the sick kittens apart from the well ones. I've taken the sick ones
inside, and treating them as directed. However, it's NOT working....
inside or out. The outside kittens are continuing to come down with it,
and the inside kittens are not getting well. I'm afraid of them being
blinded!

Please help me find the right remedy that I can either drip into their
eyes topically, or put in their water.

Other than the eyes looking horrible, the kittens are bouncing around,
playing with each other, climbing the stairs, using the new litterbox,
and acting like normal kittens.

A farmer said he thought that this was caused by some type of fungus
growing in the soil. But, to me, this feels bacterial. This is close to
a week now, and I don't know how to protect the kittens outside, and
don't know what to give the ones inside! Any ideas???

Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

http://www.rubysemporium.com
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Re: Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:07 am
by petsfriend
Ruby,

This is probably viral and should be treated with the appropriate remedy
based on activity, physical generals, etc. Topical therapy, IMO, would be a
BIG mistake as it would very likely suppress the condition to a deeper
level. Kittens are probably not being blinded unless severe corneal lesions
occur and that is unlikely from your description.

be well
Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

Re: Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 4:41 am
by andyh
ruby wrote:
Jennifer,

I defer completely to the veterinarians like Russ and others who will hopefully respond. Here are a couple of ideas aimed at simple infectious conjunctivitis. Note that these tend toward the catarrhal side of things.
Argentum nitricum
[BLEPHAROPHTHALMIA, Blepharitis.] Lids very sore, red and swollen; profuse, thick, yellowish, bland discharge from the eyes, with firm agglutination in the morning; headache; pain in root of nose, etc.; relieved in the cold air, or by cold applications; ciliary blepharitis from being over a fire; after measles; purulent ophthalmia of adults or children.
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PULSATILLA
commonly produces and cures inflammation of the mucous membranes of the eyes, ears, nasopharynx, and respiratory and genitourinary tracts, often with easy and plentiful mucous discharges. These are typically rather thick and yellowish, such as would be seen in a "ripe" cold or a full-blown case of the measles, for which PULSATILLA is very nearly specific. When indicated, it is an excellent remedy for simple colds, URI's, ear infections, and conjunctivitis in babies, children, and adults of both sexes.

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If it is a mycotic (fungal), probably the mother cat would have had it previously, unless the weather has caused
something to become active.

Does the mother cat have the infection now?

What is in the shed? Is it dirt floor?

Doubt it is chlamydial but here (below) is a bit of a description (humans) if for nothing else but educational interest. Please don't be scared by this, because I don't know:

1.how susceptible cats are to it
2. how endemic chlamydia is in outdoor environment in temperate climates. It probably needs warmth. What region do you live in?

Just a few ideas, definitely in the amateur category. Look forward to what the vets say.

Respectfully,
Andy
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World's leading preventable cause of blindness

Trachoma is a 'quiet' disease. It remains hidden in rural communities where people live in overcrowded conditions and have limited access to water and health care. Because the
disease is not fatal, some people are not concerned about it. In fact, the disease is so common in certain areas that people believe it is just a fact of life. But for a woman who is
slowly going blind, just like her mother did before her, it is a tragedy she will live with for the rest of her life.

Trachoma spreads easily from person to person. Caused by a bacterium called chlamydia trachomatis, the disease is passed from child to child and child to mother within a family.
Mothers of young children are particularly susceptible. In fact, three out of every four people blinded by trachoma are women.

When people get trachoma, they do not go blind immediately. The disease begins in childhood and progresses over the years as repeated infections cause irritation and scarring on
the inside of the eyelid.

Eventually the eyelashes turn in, rubbing on the cornea at the front of the eye. The scarring on the cornea leads to severe vision loss and blindness, usually when people are 40 to 50
years old. Tweezers, often used to remove painful inturned eyelashes, are so important that they are sometimes worn around the neck. Removing eyelashes, however, is at best only a
temporary measure, because eyelashes grow back.

Even after the scarring begins, visual damage and pain from trachoma can be interrupted with a simple surgical procedure that reverses the inturned eyelashes. The best time to attack
trachoma, however, is in childhood, before serious damage has begun. And one of the best ways to attack it is through a surprisingly simple intervention: increased face washing
among children at risk of disease.

Prevention

Community members can prevent trachoma and its transmission. Environmental changes, such as better
access to water and improved sanitation facilities, will make a difference. Even simple practices such as
regular face washing can help win the fight against trachoma. In villages in Tanzania and Egypt where
face washing has increased, for example, there is less trachoma than in areas where face washing is still
uncommon.

Health education will also make a difference. In Tanzania and Kenya, health workers are supporting
efforts to increase face washing. Local volunteers demonstrate how to wash a child's face with a small
amount of water, using a gourd, pitcher, or a leaky tin. School children learn about the importance of
washing their own faces, as well as the faces of their younger brothers and sisters. In Tanzania, students
have written plays and songs about face washing.

Trachoma control works best when the whole village learns about the disease. In village meetings, those
who know how to prevent trachoma are showing their neighbors that blindness does not have to remain a
"fact of life."
Treatment

People who already have trachoma infections are treated in the early stages with tetracycline eye ointment. Scientists are also testing long-acting oral antibiotics that may be effective
even in a single dose.

For individuals whose eyelids have already turned in from scarring, a simple surgical procedure can correct the abnormality and prevent the final stage of blindness. Eye nurses and
health auxiliaries can be trained to perform the surgery in local health centers and even in villages where the people live. This surgical technique is low-cost and requires very simple
equipment.

Re: Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:10 am
by Ruby
Andy, Thanks for replying. Let me reply to your questions.

No, the mother cat doesn't have this eye problem. She has had some sneezing, but not this eye problem. We live in Houston, so the weather has been very hot and humid. Just yesterday, it took a dip and is chilly today. The shed has a plywood floor, and is up off the ground, so there is no mud on the floor... Sawdust, but not mud.

I took both remedies to kittens, and muscletested. I know that some don't believe in this, but these two remedies are very similar in their discriptions.... and it's a cat that can't talk! So, I tested, and the Argentum Nitricum tests better than the Pulsitilla. I'm making up a remedy now, and hopefully, we'll see if this resolves it.

Thanks so much for responding, and giving me some ideas on what to look at. I hope this works!
Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2

Jennifer Ruby

Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.

http://www.rubysemporium.com
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth

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"andyh@mcn.org" wrote:

Re: Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 5:35 am
by andyh
ruby wrote:
99999 Dear Jennifer,

Hope the remedy is successful.

Since the expert (Russ) checked in with the probable opportunist (viral), that somewhat rules out hygienic considerations beyond the quarantine you have already imposed, would be my guess.

Regarding those two remedies, they are both worse becoming heated (if you had a particularly unusual heat wave lately), and both known for catarrahal blepharo- conjunctivitis in young ones. However, they are by no means the only choices. Any other observations that would allow differentiation?

I am curious about your muscle testing methodology on the cat (which muscles, how to assess resistance vs. weakness, etc).

Best wishes,
Andy

Re: Kitten problems: Help?

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 7:51 am
by Rick & Marilyn Wagner
Hello Ruby...

I'm definitely a student of homeopathy...but am also a cat breeder. This
sounds like a Rhinotracheitis (herpes) outbreak. Since it's been a week
since it's started, in my experience, it will be harder to treat. I would go
with Nat Mur 30C...give in their drinking water, if that's the only way you
can get it to them. You can also make up eye drops...PLEASE don't use the
Tetracycline/Terramycin! Make up a saline solution...1/2 cup boiling water +
1/8 teaspoon (sea) salt..let cool and put into a small dropper bottle with a
few drops of low potency Euphrasia or Goldenseal Tincture or...?
You need to watch for secondary infections...either a spike in temperature
(normal is 27.8-39.2 C/ 100-102.5 F) or yellow gooby stuff coming out of
their eyes. That's what the Goldenseal eye drops are especially good for.

See if you can get some L-Lysine too. It stops the feline herpes-virus from
replicating...and therefore will "stop" the dis-ease in it's tracks.

I hope this helps! Good luck with your babbies!

Marilyn Wagner