Minutus

Any ideas or shared experience of an naphylactic reaction to baby lambs,
goats, calves, deer. Reaction is subsequent to touching any of these
animals (all of them non-weaned), or even to the smell once person has
become sensitised by contact.. One other allergic crisis happened
subsequent to a bath with pungent oil (non identified). Symptoms start with
raised white welts (like nettle rash) extreme intense itching (< cold water)
causing hysteria, puffing of eyelids and face, weak feeling, difficult and
shallow breathing. If contact is prolonged then there is collapse with
brief loss of consciousness. There is no such reaction with adult animals
or with other babies such as kittens, dogs, birds etc. No other known
serious allergies - bees wasps etc. Possible allergies to some foods,
though this is not proven, but this teenage girl has had eczema in varying
degrees since infancy.
I am wanting to know of any keynote remedies specific to these substances to
assist in building the constitutional picture.

Thanks
Tessa Mackenzie

ect:
[Minutus] Allergic reaction to baby animals
Date:
Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:17:19 +1200
From:
"Tessa Mackenzie"
Reply-To:
minutus@yahoogroups.com
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Any ideas or shared experience of an Anaphylactic reaction to baby lambs,
goats, calves, deer. Reaction is subsequent to touching any of these
animals (all of them non-weaned), or even to the smell once person has
become sensitised by contact.. One other allergic crisis happened
subsequent to a bath with pungent oil (non identified). Symptoms start with
raised white welts (like nettle rash) extreme intense itching (< cold water)
causing hysteria, puffing of eyelids and face, weak feeling, difficult and
shallow breathing. If contact is prolonged then there is collapse with
brief loss of consciousness. There is no such reaction with adult animals
or with other babies such as kittens, dogs, birds etc. No other known
serious allergies - bees wasps etc. Possible allergies to some foods,
though this is not proven, but this teenage girl has had eczema in varying
degrees since infancy.
I am wanting to know of any keynote remedies specific to these substances to
assist in building the constitutional picture.

Thanks
Tessa Mackenzie

Hi Tessa,
Played with this a little, nothing conclusive yet, but have a few ideas to pass your way which may help provide some
Starting points for study.

One early idea was that somehow brucellosis was involved, carried by goats and cows ( seems likely to be present in NZ with high goat pop). But the allergic syndrome does not include fever or myalgia, or anything like brucellosis. And the exposure to some kind of oil also eliciting reaction, and that only young animals indicated, is interesting and tends to decrease the chance of her susceptibility involving some kind of pathogen. Anthrax spores are another idea (anthrax carried by herbivores, category that deer, goats, and cattle all in, and goats known carriers.). Both
brucella meletensis and anthracinum can have reactions merely from odors.

A few odd rubrics:

GENERALITIES; CONVULSIONS, spasms; odors, from strong (K1354, SRII-135, G1118): bruc., lyss.
GENERALITIES; INHALING foul odors, ailments from: anthr.
However, as said, no conclusions drawn and , so here are a few other analyses.

One of them includes MOSCHUS, a deer remedy (musk). Maybe what is in common between the oils (musk added to various oils, perfumes), the deer, goats, and calves are some kind of male hormone-like chemistry from sex glands, which sets off a hysterical anaphylactic reaction, to which the moschus type is susceptible. Why younger animals—maybe their production of these substances is in high gear?
However, the usual modality for Moschus is that musk smell amel, although certainly the opposite could be true.
Would be great if you could share this case with the list when a remedy acts.
(please see attachment-file in MS Word format)

Peace,

Andy

IDEA 1
+GENERALITIES; COLLAPSE (K1350, SRII-87, G1114): acet-ac., acetan., acon., aconin., adren., aeth., Am-c., am-caust., ampe-qu, amyg-am., ant-c., ant-t., apis, aran-ix., arn., Ars., ars-h., bamb-a., bar-c., cadm-m., calc., Camph., cann-i., canth., carb-ac., carb-an., Carb-v., Carbn-s., carc., cench., Chin., chloram., cina, cit-l., cocc., colch., colchin., con., crat., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., cupr-acet., cupr-ar., cupr-s., cyt-l., dig., diph., dor., euon., eupi., graph., hell., home., hydr., hydr-ac., hydrog., hyos., hyosin., iod., ip., jab., kali-br., kali-chl., kali-chr.,
kali-cy., kali-n., kali-p., kola., lach., lat-m., laur., lob., lob-p., lol., loxo-r., lyc., med., merc., merc-c., merc-cy., merc-n., merc-pr-a., mez., morph., mosch., mur-ac., naja, nicot., nit-s-d., nux-v., olnd., op., ox-ac., oxyu-s., ozone, petr., ph-ac., phos., phys., plb., podo., pyrog., ric., sabad., sant., scam., sec., seneg., sep., stann., stram., sul-ac., sulph., tab., tarent., tarent-c., tax., ther., verat., verat-v., vib., vip., zinc.

+GENERALITIES; ALLERGY: anh., aran., arg., ars., astra-e., bani-c., berb-a., beryl., buni-o., calc-f., carc., chloram., chlorpr., cic., colch., cortico., cortiso., des-ac., dys-co., ergot., flav., foll., form-ac., galph., hip-ac., hist., kres., levo., mand., morg-g., nat-m., palo., paraph., penic., phenob., phos., pitu-a., pneu., prot., psor., saroth., sulfa., sulo-ac., sulph., syc-co.

-MIND; HYSTERIA (K52, SRI-588, G41): abrot., absin., acet-ac., acon., aether, agar., agn., aloe, alum., alum-sil., am-br., am-c., am-val., ambr., aml-n., ammc., anac., anag., androc., anh., ant-c., apis, apisin., aquil., arg., arg-n., arn., ars., ars-s-f., art-v., arund., Asaf., asar., asc-t., aster., Aur., aur-ar., aur-i., aur-m-n., aur-s., bapt., bar-c., bar-i., bar-s., bell., benz-ac., bor., bov., brom., bry., bufo, cact., caj., calad., calc., calc-s., calc-sil., camph., camph-br., cand-a., cann-i., cann-s., canth., carbn-s., cast., cat., catar., caul., Caust., cedr., cench.,
cham., chel., chen-a., chim., chin., chin-s., chlf., chlol., cic., cimic., cinnam., cob., coca, Cocc., coff., coff-t., Con., conv., convo-s., cop., cor-r., cot., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., cypr., dig., elaps, electr., eup-a., eup-per., eup-pur., euphr., ferr., ferr-ar., ferr-i., ferr-p., ferr-val., form., Gels., glyc-g., graph., grat., haliae-lc., hedeo, hell., hura, hydr-ac., hyos., hyper., ictod., Ign., indg., iod., ip., ipom., joan., kali-ar., kali-br., kali-c., Kali-p., kali-s., kali-sil., lac-ac., lac-c., lac-d., Lach., lact., lat-h., lil-t., lith-br., lob., lyc.,
mag-c., Mag-m., mand., mang., med., menth., merc., methyl., mez., mill., morph., Mosch., mygal., nat-ar., nat-c., nat-hchls., Nat-m., nat-p., nat-s., nat-sil., nepet., Nit-ac., nitro-o., Nux-m., Nux-v., ol-an., op., orig., orig-v., pall., par., passi., ph-ac., phos., phys., Plat., plb., polyg., pop., prot., pseuts-m., Puls., pyrus, raph., rhus-t., ruta, sabad., sabin., sac-alb., sac-l., salx-n., sang., scut., sec., senec., Sep., Sil., spira., stann., staph., stict., stram., stry-p., succ., sul-ac., sul-i., sulph., sumb., syc-co., tanac., Tarent., ter., thal., ther., thlaspi,
thuj., thyr., tub., ust., Valer., vanad., Verat., verat-v., vib., viol-o., visc., xan., zinc., zinc-cy., zinc-val., ziz.

-SKIN; ERUPTIONS; itching (K1314, G1084): acon., aegle-f., aeth., agar., agn., ail., aln., alum., alum-p., alum-sil., am-c., am-m., ambr., anac., anag., ant-c., ant-t., anthro., apis, apisin., arg., arist-cl., arn., Ars., ars-i., ars-s-f., arum-t., asaf., asc-t., aur., bac., bamb-a., bar-c., bar-s., bell., bell-p., beryl., bor., bov., bry., bufo, calad., calc., calc-p., calc-s., calc-sil., canth., caps., carb-ac., carb-an., carb-v., carbn-s., cassi-s., Caust., cham., chel., chin-s., cic., cimic., cina, Clem., cocc., com., con., corn., croto-t., cupr., dig., dol., dros., dulc.,
euph., fago., ferr-ma., fl-ac., Graph., guare., hep., ho., ign., iod., ip., iris, jug-c., jug-r., kali-acet., kali-ar., kali-bi., kali-br., kali-c., kali-i., kali-n., kali-p., kali-s., kali-sil., kreos., lac-eq., lach., lap-gr-m., laur., led., lob., lyc., m-arct., m-aust., m-p-a., mag-c., mag-m., maland., mang., mangi., menis., merc., Mez., mur-ac., nabal., nat-ar., nat-c., Nat-m., nat-s., nat-sil., Nit-ac., nuph., Nux-v., olnd., op., par., parth., ped., petr., ph-ac., phos., phyt., pic-ac., pitu-a., plan., plb., polyg., psil., psor., puls., puls-n, ran-b., ran-s., Rhus-t.,
rumx., ruta, sabad., sabin., sang., sars., sel., Sep., sil., sol-n., spig., spong., squil., stann., Staph., stram., stront-c., sul-ac., Sulph., sumb., syph., tarax., tarent., tarent-c., teucr., thuj., til., trio., tub., urt-u., ust., valer., verat., vero-o., viol-t., vip., x-ray, zinc., zinc-p.

-GENERALITIES; WOUNDS; bites; poisonous animals, of (K1422, SRII-765, G1172): acet-ac., am-c., anthr., apis, arn., Ars., aur., bell., calad., caust., cedr., cist., echi., grin., helo., hep., hyper., lach., lat-h., Led., lob-p., loxo-r., lyss., mosch., nat-m., puls., pyrog., seneg., stram., sul-ac., thuj., vip.

(note the latter rubric used figuratively, since there is something animal which aggravates.)

Elimination: Am-c., apis, arn., Ars., Caust., Lach., Nat-m., stram., sul-ac.

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REP 2
MIND; HYSTERIA (K52, SRI-588, G41): abrot., absin., acet-ac., acon., aether, agar., agn., aloe, alum., alum-sil., am-br., am-c., am-val., ambr., aml-n., ammc., anac., anag., androc., anh., ant-c., apis, apisin., aquil., arg., arg-n., arn., ars., ars-s-f., art-v., arund., Asaf., asar., asc-t., aster., Aur., aur-ar., aur-i., aur-m-n., aur-s., bapt., bar-c., bar-i., bar-s., bell., benz-ac., bor., bov., brom., bry., bufo, cact., caj., calad., calc., calc-s., calc-sil., camph., camph-br., cand-a., cann-i., cann-s., canth., carbn-s., cast., cat., catar., caul., Caust., cedr., cench.,
cham., chel., chen-a., chim., chin., chin-s., chlf., chlol., cic., cimic., cinnam., cob., coca, Cocc., coff., coff-t., Con., conv., convo-s., cop., cor-r., cot., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., cypr., dig., elaps, electr., eup-a., eup-per., eup-pur., euphr., ferr., ferr-ar., ferr-i., ferr-p., ferr-val., form., Gels., glyc-g., graph., grat., haliae-lc., hedeo, hell., hura, hydr-ac., hyos., hyper., ictod., Ign., indg., iod., ip., ipom., joan., kali-ar., kali-br., kali-c., Kali-p., kali-s., kali-sil., lac-ac., lac-c., lac-d., Lach., lact., lat-h., lil-t., lith-br., lob., lyc.,
mag-c., Mag-m., mand., mang., med., menth., merc., methyl., mez., mill., morph., Mosch., mygal., nat-ar., nat-c., nat-hchls., Nat-m., nat-p., nat-s., nat-sil., nepet., Nit-ac., nitro-o., Nux-m., Nux-v., ol-an., op., orig., orig-v., pall., par., passi., ph-ac., phos., phys., Plat., plb., polyg., pop., prot., pseuts-m., Puls., pyrus, raph., rhus-t., ruta, sabad., sabin., sac-alb., sac-l., salx-n., sang., scut., sec., senec., Sep., Sil., spira., stann., staph., stict., stram., stry-p., succ., sul-ac., sul-i., sulph., sumb., syc-co., tanac., Tarent., ter., thal., ther., thlaspi,
thuj., thyr., tub., ust., Valer., vanad., Verat., verat-v., vib., viol-o., visc., xan., zinc., zinc-cy., zinc-val., ziz.

-GENERALITIES; COLLAPSE (K1350, SRII-87, G1114): acet-ac., acetan., acon., aconin., adren., aeth., Am-c., am-caust., ampe-qu, amyg-am., ant-c., ant-t., apis, aran-ix., arn., Ars., ars-h., bamb-a., bar-c., cadm-m., calc., Camph., cann-i., canth., carb-ac., carb-an., Carb-v., Carbn-s., carc., cench., Chin., chloram., cina, cit-l., cocc., colch., colchin., con., crat., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., cupr-acet., cupr-ar., cupr-s., cyt-l., dig., diph., dor., euon., eupi., graph., hell., home., hydr., hydr-ac., hydrog., hyos., hyosin., iod., ip., jab., kali-br., kali-chl., kali-chr.,
kali-cy., kali-n., kali-p., kola., lach., lat-m., laur., lob., lob-p., lol., loxo-r., lyc., med., merc., merc-c., merc-cy., merc-n., merc-pr-a., mez., morph., mosch., mur-ac., naja, nicot., nit-s-d., nux-v., olnd., op., ox-ac., oxyu-s., ozone, petr., ph-ac., phos., phys., plb., podo., pyrog., ric., sabad., sant., scam., sec., seneg., sep., stann., stram., sul-ac., sulph., tab., tarent., tarent-c., tax., ther., verat., verat-v., vib., vip., zinc.
Elimination: acet-ac., acon., Am-c., ant-c., apis, arn., Ars., bar-c., calc., Camph., cann-i., canth., Carbn-s., cench., Chin., Cocc., Con., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., dig., graph., hell., hydr-ac., hyos., iod., ip., kali-br., Kali-p., Lach., lob., lyc., med., merc., mez., morph., Mosch., Nux-v., op., ph-ac., phos., phys., plb., sabad., sec., Sep., stann., stram., sul-ac., sulph., Tarent., ther., Verat., verat-v., vib., zinc.
MOSCHUS (DEER)(but note, usu smell of musk amel)

GEN
* A remedy for hysteria and nervous paroxysms, fainting fits and convulsions, catalepsy, etc.

*The characteristic condition being aggravation by cold; there is great sensitiveness to air.

*Much nervous trembling and frequent fainting.

Great flatulence. Diseases don't follow a normal course; [2] poor reaction. Coldness; [2] general or of single parts. Tension in muscles, skin and mind. [2] Spasmodic, nervous effects with feeling of coldness. FAINTS easily; while eating; during menses; from heart disease, etc. Twitching; choking; globus hystericus, ending in unconsciousness. Sensation as of a cold wind blowing on part. Nervous; shuddering, laughter, hiccough, etc. Buzzing, squeezing, plug-like sensation. Epilepsy, with shuddering as from a rigour or chilliness. Catalepsy. Parts lain on feel dislocated [[5]
broken] or sprained. [4] Hysterical and hypochondriacal complaints arising from genital systems. FAINTS COMPLETELY AWAY FROM THE LEAST EXCITEMENT. [5] Prickling or tingling in limbs, with feeling of heaviness. Weakness, felt more during rest than during motion. Faintness, followed by headache. [8] General better during menses. [11] Sensation as if he was turned about so rapidly that he perceives current of air produced by motion. Often useful in last stage of croup when all sorts of remedies have been used in vain. Lies stretched out in bed, motionless, arms tightly held to
sides, during spasms. Neither pinching, sticking nor shaking makes the least impression upon her in spasm. Spasms; preceded by constriction of throat, great restlessness, oppression of chest, impatience, and intolerance of bedcovers; during attack she remains entirely conscious; suddenly becomes rigid, distortion of eyes, twitching of face, contraction of fingers; respiration becomes suspended, the throat swells, mouth is opened, head retracted and body tossed about in her violent efforts to get air; bends herself backwards and cries out "now it is over, now my breath is gone";
attacks end with belching and twitching of various parts, followed by crawling sensation in arms. All secretions and excretions suppressed during spasms. Uraemic convulsions. All muscular movements, during spasms, are in a certain direction, either from above downward or in opposite direction. Syncope; paroxysms set in at night, or in open air, with pulmonary spasms, or succeeded by headache. Purely neuralgic pains or functional disorders, from taking cold.

RESP
Difficult; chest oppressed; hysterical spasm of chest; asthma. Asthma, with intense anxiety, fear, and smothering sensation. Tightness of chest, is obliged to take a deeper breath; [5] can't lie down; gasps for air. [2] Sudden nervous suffocation; wants to take deep breath; worse becoming cold; better belching. [5] Respiratory troubles worse becoming cold. Difficult, with sticking in chest; can only take short breaths. Sudden dyspnoea, with violent cough; chest filled with mucus, with rattling and suffocative constriction. [11] Suffocative fits, with oppression of chest, as
from vapours of sulphur, commencing with desire to cough and getting worse until one despairs of getting over paroxysms; asthma. Sense of suffocation, with gnawing in chest.

CLIN
[2] Suitable to persons of sensitive nature, hysterical women and men. Girls who are selfish, obstinate, self-willed, and much pampered; resort to all kinds of cunning to have their whims gratified.

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REP 3
ADDED sx
+GENERALITIES; COLLAPSE (K1350, SRII-87, G1114): acet-ac., acetan., acon., aconin., adren., aeth., Am-c., am-caust., ampe-qu, amyg-am., ant-c., ant-t., apis, aran-ix., arn., Ars., ars-h., bamb-a., bar-c., cadm-m., calc., Camph., cann-i., canth., carb-ac., carb-an., Carb-v., Carbn-s., carc., cench., Chin., chloram., cina, cit-l., cocc., colch., colchin., con., crat., croc., crot-h., croto-t., cupr., cupr-acet., cupr-ar., cupr-s., cyt-l., dig., diph., dor., euon., eupi., graph., hell., home., hydr., hydr-ac., hydrog., hyos., hyosin., iod., ip., jab., kali-br., kali-chl., kali-chr.,
kali-cy., kali-n., kali-p., kola., lach., lat-m., laur., lob., lob-p., lol., loxo-r., lyc., med., merc., merc-c., merc-cy., merc-n., merc-pr-a., mez., morph., mosch., mur-ac., naja, nicot., nit-s-d., nux-v., olnd., op., ox-ac., oxyu-s., ozone, petr., ph-ac., phos., phys., plb., podo., pyrog., ric., sabad., sant., scam., sec., seneg., sep., stann., stram., sul-ac., sulph., tab., tarent., tarent-c., tax., ther., verat., verat-v., vib., vip., zinc.

+GENERALITIES; ANAPHYLACTIC states by proteins and enzymes: loxo-r., torul.

SUBTRACTED sx
-SKIN; ERUPTIONS; elevated (K1312, G1082): anac., ars., asaf., bry., calc., carb-v., caust., cop., crot-h., cupr-ar., dulc., elaps, graph., kola., lach., merc., mez., op., phos., sulph., tab., tarax., valer., vero-o.

-Mutton/veal agg: ars., bor., calc., caust., chin., Ip., Kali-n., lyss., nux-v., ov., sep., sulph., verat., zinc.

(this a combination of two rubrics in complete, gen food, mutton agg, and gen food, veal agg
(this rubric figuratively used)

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Elimination: Ars., calc., sulph.
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GENERALITIES; ALLERGY: anh., aran., arg., ars., astra-e., bani-c., berb-a., beryl., buni-o., calc-f., carc., chloram., chlorpr., cic., colch., cortico., cortiso., des-ac., dys-co., ergot., flav., foll., form-ac., galph., hip-ac., hist., kres., levo., mand., morg-g., nat-m., palo., paraph., penic., phenob., phos., pitu-a., pneu., prot., psor., saroth., sulfa., sulo-ac., sulph., syc-co.

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Elimination: Ars., sulph.
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ARS-ALB
A profoundly acting remedy on every organ and tissue. Its clear-cut characteristic symptoms and correspondence to many severe types of disease make its homœopathic employment constant and certain. Its general symptoms alone often lead to its successful application. Among these the all-prevailing debility, exhaustion, and restlessness, with nightly aggravation, are most important. Great exhaustion after the slightest exertion. This, with the peculiar irritability of fibre, gives the characteristic irritable weakness. Burning pains. Unquenchable thirst. Burning better heat.
Seaside complaints [Nat-m.; Aq-mar.]. Injurious effects of fruits, esp. more watery ones. Gives quiet and ease to the last moments of life when given in high potency. Fear, fright and worry. Green discharges. Infantile Kala-azar. [Dr. Neatby.] Ars. should be thought of in ailments from alcoholism, ptomaine poisoning, stings, dissecting wounds, chewing tobacco;

*ill effects from decayed food or animal matter.

Odour of discharges is putrid. Complaints that return annually. Anaemia and chlorosis. Degenerative changes. Gradual loss of weight from impaired nutrition. Reduces the refractive index of blood serum [also Chin. and Ferr-p.]. Maintains the system under the stress of malignancy regardless of location. Malarial cachexia. Septic infections and low vitality. [2] Discharges of MUCOUS MEMBRANES are ACRID, THIN and SCANTY; coryza, saliva, sweat, etc. Blood is disorganised causing a pernicious type of anaemia and severe septic conditions. Haemorrhages black, offensive. Weakness and
emaciation are rapid.

*The prostration seems to be out of proportion to the rest of his illness.

Pains are maddening; BURNING LIKE FIRE; hot needles or wires, better heat. Pains are even felt during sleep; awake the patient. Pains cause shortness of breath or chilliness. Pains alternating between head, stomach or body. Inveterate neuralgias and multiple neuritis, better heat. Frequent fainting. Trembling, jerking, convulsions and choreic twitching. Sudden intense effects;
*SUDDEN GREAT WEAKNESS from trivial causes.

VERY RESTLESS; restless even in affected part; even stupor is interrupted by fits of restlessness, with anxious moaning. PUTRID CADAVEROUS ODOURS. Destructive processes ? carbuncles, gangrene, cancer; malignancy.

*Dropsy; pale, puffy, baggy, SWELLING.

Spleen is enlarged in malarial fever. Child better when carried quickly. Prophylactic for yellow fever. Acute and chronic burns. Epilepsy; suddenly becomes unconscious with convulsions; restlessness; then becomes drowsy. [4] Bad effects from animal matter, whether by inoculation, olfaction or ingestion. [5] General worse rest [esp. following exercise]. [6] The restlessness of the limbs decreases, later merely rolling of the head, finally lies quiet as prostration takes the place of the restlessness. Old sinners who feel that they must get up in the night and take a drink or they
will not be able to get up in the morning, when the first three or four drinks will not stay down. [7] Sudden sinking of strength; from slight pain or other causes. The paroxysm of pain is frequently accompanied by other minor symptoms.
*Oedema of head, face, eyes and neck. Faint, anxious and weak, early in morning. Burning pains, esp. in inner organs, skin and ulcers. [10] Generally RIGHT-SIDED complaints; left-sided. [11] Child lies as if dead; pale but warm; breathless for some time. Pains worse other people's talking.

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IDEA 4:
COLD WASHING AGG AS A PECULIAR

SKIN; ERUPTIONS; general; washing; agg.; water, in cold (K1323, G1091): Clem., dulc., lac-c., sulph.

Hi Tessa,

Since you say she reacts only to nurselings, could it have to do with the
mother's milk, or emotional response to them??? Which wouldn't explain the
oil reaction... Does she remember anything about? the smell of the oil,
whether there was any emotional content for her???
on 9/17/02 2:29 AM, andyh at andyh@mcn.org wrote:

Thanks Andy
Certainly some ideas to investigate further.
Regarding "musk", I believe the babies have all been female. I was
wondering if it there are particular pheromones emitted by suckling animals
in this group.

I look forward to more ideas.

Tessa Mackenzie

Any ideas or shared experience of an Anaphylactic reaction to baby lambs,
goats, calves, deer. Reaction is subsequent to touching any of these
animals (all of them non-weaned), or even to the smell once person has
become sensitised by contact.. One other allergic crisis happened
subsequent to a bath with pungent oil (non identified). Symptoms start with
raised white welts (like nettle rash) extreme intense itching (< cold water)
causing hysteria, puffing of eyelids and face, weak feeling, difficult and
shallow breathing. If contact is prolonged then there is collapse with
brief loss of consciousness. There is no such reaction with adult animals
or with other babies such as kittens, dogs, birds etc. No other known
serious allergies - bees wasps etc. Possible allergies to some foods,
though this is not proven, but this teenage girl has had eczema in varying
degrees since infancy.
I am wanting to know of any keynote remedies specific to these substances to
assist in building the constitutional picture.

Thanks
Tessa Mackenzie

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Tessa,
This may be more for interest's sake than helpful in this case, but below is a link to an article (at David Little's
website; article by Greg Bedayn) about a herd of sheep (in Central California) treated successfully with
Angustura vera for what appeared to be New Zealand Ryegrass Staggers -- a seasonal poisoning-epidemic in
sheep caused by the toxic endophyte, Acremonium lolii. It is a similar type phenomenon as Ergot poisoning
by Claviceps purpurea, but different organism and symptoms.

It demonstrates nicely a homeopathic cure of a group containing individuals susceptible to a local morbific
influence.

In the case at hand, (as I know you are well aware) attempts to determine the allergen (while definitely of interest)
may or may not be helpful in determining the curative agent, for, as in this example, the remedy might end up being found strictly on the symptoms presented.
http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... tient.html
Hope you find this interesting reading.

Andy
P.S. -Off-topic, but a fascinating article (also David Little site) on methods used in the past to confirm (or even find) a remedy using objective biological indicators and similar methods.

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... s/ART.html

Hi Shannon, thanks for your input
I had thought of the milk connection, though the babies in question were all
bottle fed, and reaction happened both after a calf had tried suckling her
fingers 4 years ago, as well as when only patting a lamb between feeds
recently.

There are interesting links with the birth - prem baby, immediately removed
from mother, never did well at the breast, but, before you get all excited
about this side of the story - I'm not sharing the whole case on line, and
am only seeking ideas on the anaphylactic component.

The anaphylaxis has only
presented in varying degrees over the last 4 years. Though as far as I know
there may not have been contact with the said babies before that time.

Following up on Andy's suggestions with Moschus, I was also lead to Ambra
Grisea,
and the following info and links to aromatic substances was interesting "As
for the
potential actions of the aromatic substances of ambergris, as well as of
musk, castoreum, and mephitis, on man, these extend mainly to the
instinctive, impulsive, and emotional functions which are so closely bound
up with the sense of smell. Less known about perfumes is that they often
contain a very slight odour of excrements, to create subconsciously the
feeling of safety of infancy. This reminds of the properties of indole.
Obtained from coal tar or faeces, crude indole emits an intense faecal
odour...." (from Prisma, Vermeulen p 56)

Lacs are a group I am investigating further, though her current mental state
does not indicate this group of remedies.

I am still interested in gathering further info of remedies that have caused
allergic type reactions relating to the identified animals, or associated
substances, as I feel it is reasonably unusual and specific - and therefore
of interest in finding out more.

Thanks for your support.

Tessa Mackenzie

Since all the baby animals have been bottle fed, is there some common
connection between the allergic reaction and the milk they've all been
drinking? This might present a much more easily remedied situation that
looking at all the different animals.

Rosemary Hyde