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Debra Lamana
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Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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Last week our household had two members with upper respiratory illness (one flu, the other person a 'cold' only and did not develop flu symptoms). I reviewed Herscu's remedy recommendations and while Gels seemed to be a good match, I did rule it out because I kept coming across the rubric that Gels patients commonly do not complain of thirst, that lack of thirst even with fever is a key clue to Gels being a proper match.

If Gels appears to be a good match on other symptoms, i.e., "runny nose, mostly with a bland clear discharge, a great deal of frontal sinus pressure which leads to a congestive headache, extreme weakness, feeling wiped out, exhausted with some body aches. Low fever of 99-I00.5, along with an incessant cough. "

Question: If the patient experiences frequent thirst, would that really rule out Gels as a proper match? Thanks, Deb
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During our first of eight NESH Seattle Course weekends, Dr. Paul Herscu spoke broadly about epidemics and more specifically about the materia medica of Gelsemium (one of the genus epidemicus remedies needed for recent upper respiratory tract infections). He also touched on the 2019 Novel Coronavirus and will do the deep dive into the vast topic of epidemics during our Weekend #2. You can still join us if you like - see below!

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Needless to say, as during any epidemic, take the antiviral herbs/vitamins that you know about, keep your diet clean, insure adequate sleep and if you do fall ill, make sure that someone is attending to you so that you have proper care.

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February 19, 2020: Update Part #3
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In writing about epidemics over the past 3 decades, my first goal has been to create information scaffolding for readers so that you have sound context to receive and understand the bombardment of information about any epidemic. If you want a broad and deep understanding of the concept of epidemics, which I strongly suggest, take some time to review the highlights here .(https://paulherscuepidemics.blogspot.co ... cs-by.html )
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Comments I shared here over the past weeks remain true and are seen in writings coming from across the globe. I want to focus on why this is of outmost importance to you!

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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I would not rule it out. You work with what is present not with what is missing. Unless of course if you find a remedy with all the major symptoms but with thirst....and a very minor symptom of Gelsemium missing; then you need either a concomitant, or a good other modality,... or just try it and see what happens. What do you have to lose?
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Debra Lamana
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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Ok, makes sense. Thanks, Dr. Roz. I was the person with the flu in our household and not surprisingly having
fever and pounding headache at the time, it was not conducive to good decision making.
I did learn a very powerful lesson (yet once again) about not changing remedies too soon
as I caused myself a rather unpleasant aggravation by doing so. And, I survived :) Deb
I would not rule it out. You work with what is present not with what is missing. Unless of course if you find a remedy with all the major symptoms but with thirst....and a very minor symptom of Gelsemium missing; then you need either a concomitant, or a good other modality,... or just try it and see what happens. What do you have to lose?
Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD."The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"www.naturamedica.co.nz


Debra Lamana
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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Dr. Roz,
Novice type errors :) When flu symptoms (pounding headache, low grade fever, body aches) first started, I had a three doses
of Oscillococcinum (200c) from last year on hand and took those which provided moderate relief.
When I ran out, I remembered that I had a tube of Influenzium 9c on hand
and began dosing that, and this is what I must assume led to the aggravation . . . changing remedy too soon? and or by going
from a remedy at 200c to a 9c?
The headache worsened, body aches worsened and despite being exhausted, I could not fall asleep that night.
At about 3 a.m., I took some Bach Rescue Remedy drops to try to antidote the aggravation and this did seem to help.

Today is Day 8 of the flu and I am left with a barking cough that is worse at night and has resulted in having to sleep upright
in a chair for the past two nights as I cough incessantly when I lie down. Any insight, much appreciated.. Thanks, Deb
Just out of curiosity, what did you do?

Next time, use the group or one of us, that is why we are here...

Joe.

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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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IMO, nothing to do with changing the potency (you know my bias there...) especially with 2 different remedies.

The problem I see is that you used a prophylactic nosode when the disease was already established; this way you introduced more information similar or identical to the symptoms you already presented, using the same "channel" ( a nosode and not a remedy based on similarity and proving), therefore your symptoms worsened synergistically; in other words, you poured petrol on the fire.

I used this:

cough; BARKING (91)
cough; BARKING; night (12)
cough; LYING; agg. (202)
cough; LYING; agg.; bed, in (91)
cough; SIT up, must (73)
Two remedies cover everything: coccus cacti and nitric acid; see which one fits best but I would bet on coccus.

Let us know.
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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Just out of curiosity, what did you do?

Next time, use the group or one of us, that is why we are here...

Joe.
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Debra Lamana
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

Post by Debra Lamana »

Dr. Roz,
I understand what you are explaining and that makes sense because the increase in symptoms was significant.
So, the real error is that the Oscillococcinum was not a Simillium, but a prophylactic nosode, (which
I did not know about that remedy). I see then that this fueled symptoms which seemed like an 'aggravation' to me,
but technically, was not.

Thanks very much for the remedy recommendations, will follow-up to see which one fits best. There are (many)
times when it is best as a novice, not to try to be your own homeopath. Deb
IMO, nothing to do with changing the potency (you know my bias there...) especially with 2 different remedies.

The problem I see is that you used a prophylactic nosode when the disease was already established; this way you introduced more information similar or identical to the symptoms you already presented, using the same "channel" ( a nosode and not a remedy based on similarity and proving), therefore your symptoms worsened synergistically; in other words, you poured petrol on the fire.

I used this:

cough; BARKING (91)
cough; BARKING; night (12)
cough; LYING; agg. (202)
cough; LYING; agg.; bed, in (91)
cough; SIT up, must (73)
Two remedies cover everything: coccus cacti and nitric acid; see which one fits best but I would bet on coccus.

Let us know.
Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD."The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"www.naturamedica.co.nz


Jean Doherty
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

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Is it true one does not take the virus nosode when suffering from the virus ?
Cough within three words of sitting upright (7): 3Nat-c., 2euphr., 2nat-m., acon., ant-t., bry., chin.
All above except Aconite better sitting upright .
Hope better soon, Jean


Debra Lamana
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

Post by Debra Lamana »

Thank you, Jean.

Hopefully Dr. Roz or someone here will be able to post a reply to your question. Deb
Is it true one does not take the virus nosode when suffering from the virus ?

Cough within three words of sitting upright (7): 3Nat-c., 2euphr., 2nat-m., acon., ant-t., bry., chin.
All above except Aconite better sitting upright .
Hope better soon, Jean


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Gels: Herscu Flu Remedy Recommendation

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

AS far as I am concerned, yes, from experience.
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