Ulcer
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 10:52 am
Hi Carol
You are the greatest - wow. Thank you for suggesting Mastic for Ulcer. Can I say, I love you, on here. I guess I just did.
I had some Mastic and had forgotten about it - I think I had it for IBS, but can't now remember for sure.
IT IS REALLY HELPING MY STOMACH - don't think I will have any need for the antibiotics for the H. Pylori.
The Mastic is getting that under control. It does have a tendency kinda heal the colon, too, it seems to me, and maybe it heals the colon more than the body is used to, now the elimination becomes sluggish - at least that is how it works on me with my
IBS w/ C - so I am only taking a small amount - I just bite off part of the tablet, it is not a hard tab - and that seems to be enough to make my stomach feel good. I chew it to rapidly get effect, with some tea or bit of juice to cover taste.
Researching Heliobacter Pylori, I find it is present in most of the population from childhood.It is a fairly normal constituent or the gut along with a lot of other bactreria - now called the "gut-brain".
When we over-do things in life, that's when it can get out of control - I think what happens is, when I take in too much lime, it erodes the stomach lining and then the h. Pylori bacteria can establish a colony in the unprotected stomach surface - and that caused the bleeding ulcer. They treated me for 5 days in the hospital, starving liquid diet at the beginning, and then I was OK to eat carefully. I took the Proto (protean pump inhibitor), as they prescribed, but still felt some sensitivity in the pit of the stomach.
Certain foods and some homeopathic remedies help for a while, but then the sensitivity would return. Most likely this is the result the h. Pylori that is still there.
About 1/3 or 1/2 of the Mastic tablet, on an empty stomach that seems to be enough for me - it is soothing the stomach and my IBS I and I think it is bringing the h. Pylori back under control. In a month, I'll have the Dr repeat the breath test to verify results.
However, elimination is becoming a problem - even though I'm eating more fruit.
My solution is to take some form of magnesium a while after the Mastic.
Magnesium Malate is very helpful in a mild laxative manner, but Magnesium Citrate (more laxative) in small amount seems to be required for my system https://amzn.to/31S2mFB (Superior Labs Magnesium Citrate -
1200 Amazon Reviews show relief from stomach pains, bloating, IBS-C/ D, muscle/neck aches, headache, and helps better sleep, more normal blood pressure, and stops leg cramps).
I am also trying Oxy-Oxy, Magnesium Peroxide w bioflavenois, https://amzn.to/2HlOgEq
It is also on the more laxative side, and, as it break down in the GI, it releases free oxygen ions, with the added benefit of killing off unwanted bacteria.
So, Carol, I think the pains and feelings in the lower abdomen, that you mentioned in your post after taking the mastic, I think it is the result of reduced motility or spasms in the plumbing below the stomach - could be in the small bowel, colon or both.
Some of the above magnesium products may be helpful.
For fruits, I like green apples, grapes, ripe peaches, ripe cherries. For fruit juices I like apple cider.
For a fruit juice that will cool you, aid elimination and clean the liver at the same time and cause minimal inflammation, I suggest
White Grape Juice (Santa Cruz Organic) - can be diluted with some water- Sipped slowly over an hour, sometimes this has saved me from stomach and IBS-C or SIBO problems. Eating lots of green grapes might be an alternative.
Cranberry juice (Just Cran by Knudson) is very helpful for elimination and urinary disturbance. Cranberry is the only fruit juice that stays acid in the system. It helps prevent bacteria, candida & other irritant fungi, and viruses from clinging to mucous surfaces in mouth, intestines and urinary tract. They just get flushed out. It also helps to increase B12 absorption in people with low stomach acid.
Customer Reviews on Amazon - Oxy-Oxy:
https://amzn.to/2NmMYNq
Amazon.com: Customer reviews: Oxy-Oxc (Magnesium Peroxide) 180 caps
Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Oxy-Oxc (Magnesium Peroxide) 180 caps at Amazon.com. Read ...
Copy from one Review: Seems to help when I've got any type of weird gut stuff going on. just need to take it on an empty stomach.. wait until the food clears the stomach then take two with a full glass of water and it seems to clear up all types of GI symptoms. They help with my SIBO related Tinnitus as well. I take two first thing in the morning on and empty stomach and two at night on an empty stomach and two on an empty stomach anytime during the day that the gut seems unhappy.
I have a lot of tricks that make your stomach feel better, whether you have an ulcer or not.
I'll write some here:
Mesquite powder put 1/2 tsp in your mouth at a time and wash down with a little herb tea, repeat 2 times, tastes good and very soothing for stomach - My Amazon link: Organic Mesquite Powder (Flour) - 1 lb - Healthy Flour Alternative For Baking, Smoothies, & Recipes - All Natural Source Of Fiber & Minerals - Raw, Non GMO, Gluten Free, Vegan, & Kosher
$9.99
Organic Mesquite Powder (Flour) - 1 lb - Healthy Flour Alternative For B...
Our Certified Organic Raw Mesquite Powder (Flour) comes from the beautiful, mineral rich forests of Argentina. T...
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
MY SPECIAL TEA MIX:
for IBS and bloat, helps on empty stomach, too:
Pomegranate - White Tea (Trader Joe), Yogi - Super Antioxident Green Tea, + 1/4 tsp Raspberry leaf, +
1/4 tsp kelp powder in hot water - sip some - then add 1/4 cup Simply Limeade,
and add following 4 Items:
1/4 tsp Jarrow D-Ribose - Amazon link: Jarrow Formulas Ribose, Supports: Muscle Recovery,Energy,Endurance, 200 g (7.05 OZ)
Jarrow Formulas Ribose, Supports: Muscle Recovery,Energy,Endurance, 200 ...
Ribose is one of the necessary building blocks for the formation of ATP; the "universal" energy molecule in the ...
1tsp Energy Revitalization - Amazon link: Enzymatic Fatigued To Fantastic Energy Energy Revitalization, Tropical Citrus Delight Flavor, 24.8-Ounces
$32.24
Enzymatic Fatigued To Fantastic Energy Energy Revitalization, Tropical C...
Fatigued to Fantastic! Energy Revitalization System including B Complex, Vitality, health and lasting energy!
1/2 tsp or more, Chlorella Manna - Amazon link: Chlorella Manna - 300g - Powder
$44.95
Chlorella Manna - 300g - Powder
Chlorella MannaBroken Cell Wall Chlorella Powder Hard-Core Green AlgaeIncredible source of full spectrum, non-to...
1 packet Ener-C - Amazon link: https://amzn.to/2ZfeB1c
- - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: carol
To: "chucksolomon@yahoo.com"
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019, 7:02:29 AM PDT
Subject: Ulcer
I can’t seem to get onto minutus through my phone and I think I changed things enough that I won’t be able to get on there with my computer. But I wanted to say that I had ulcer last fall. Took the antibiotics for two days and said no way. I ended up taking mastic gum(the pills) and manuka honey for 30 days and then two months later repeated that protocol . Several places on internet talk about this protocol . I also ordered the actual mastic chewing gum as that can kill h pylori trapped in mouth. Also got the dgl licorice suggested but didn’t use that often. If you google hpylori and mastic gum you’ll find plenty of info. My stomach issues stopped about a week later and have not returned. I never went back for another test, though . And I made mistake with the first batch of mastic gum pills the first month and only took two pills a day which was 1000mgs, and should have been taking 4 pills a day to equal 2000 mgs a day but did so two to three months later(which was recommended). But as I said the stomach issues passed after a week. I took the chewing gum as a precaution cause I’d heard of people where the hpylori cam back even after those vile antibiotics.. and thought maybe trapped in gums as well and that is how it returns. The chewing gum I had to buy off amazon is called Elma and comes from Greece . Mastic gum pills can be bought in most coops and some nutrition stores . I used the Jarrow brand. Hope this helps. Do I understand correctly that Ellen also has ulcer . You could pass this information onto her as well. It will take some expertise for me to figure out how to get back on minutus.
Sent from my iPhone
You are the greatest - wow. Thank you for suggesting Mastic for Ulcer. Can I say, I love you, on here. I guess I just did.
I had some Mastic and had forgotten about it - I think I had it for IBS, but can't now remember for sure.
IT IS REALLY HELPING MY STOMACH - don't think I will have any need for the antibiotics for the H. Pylori.
The Mastic is getting that under control. It does have a tendency kinda heal the colon, too, it seems to me, and maybe it heals the colon more than the body is used to, now the elimination becomes sluggish - at least that is how it works on me with my
IBS w/ C - so I am only taking a small amount - I just bite off part of the tablet, it is not a hard tab - and that seems to be enough to make my stomach feel good. I chew it to rapidly get effect, with some tea or bit of juice to cover taste.
Researching Heliobacter Pylori, I find it is present in most of the population from childhood.It is a fairly normal constituent or the gut along with a lot of other bactreria - now called the "gut-brain".
When we over-do things in life, that's when it can get out of control - I think what happens is, when I take in too much lime, it erodes the stomach lining and then the h. Pylori bacteria can establish a colony in the unprotected stomach surface - and that caused the bleeding ulcer. They treated me for 5 days in the hospital, starving liquid diet at the beginning, and then I was OK to eat carefully. I took the Proto (protean pump inhibitor), as they prescribed, but still felt some sensitivity in the pit of the stomach.
Certain foods and some homeopathic remedies help for a while, but then the sensitivity would return. Most likely this is the result the h. Pylori that is still there.
About 1/3 or 1/2 of the Mastic tablet, on an empty stomach that seems to be enough for me - it is soothing the stomach and my IBS I and I think it is bringing the h. Pylori back under control. In a month, I'll have the Dr repeat the breath test to verify results.
However, elimination is becoming a problem - even though I'm eating more fruit.
My solution is to take some form of magnesium a while after the Mastic.
Magnesium Malate is very helpful in a mild laxative manner, but Magnesium Citrate (more laxative) in small amount seems to be required for my system https://amzn.to/31S2mFB (Superior Labs Magnesium Citrate -
1200 Amazon Reviews show relief from stomach pains, bloating, IBS-C/ D, muscle/neck aches, headache, and helps better sleep, more normal blood pressure, and stops leg cramps).
I am also trying Oxy-Oxy, Magnesium Peroxide w bioflavenois, https://amzn.to/2HlOgEq
It is also on the more laxative side, and, as it break down in the GI, it releases free oxygen ions, with the added benefit of killing off unwanted bacteria.
So, Carol, I think the pains and feelings in the lower abdomen, that you mentioned in your post after taking the mastic, I think it is the result of reduced motility or spasms in the plumbing below the stomach - could be in the small bowel, colon or both.
Some of the above magnesium products may be helpful.
For fruits, I like green apples, grapes, ripe peaches, ripe cherries. For fruit juices I like apple cider.
For a fruit juice that will cool you, aid elimination and clean the liver at the same time and cause minimal inflammation, I suggest
White Grape Juice (Santa Cruz Organic) - can be diluted with some water- Sipped slowly over an hour, sometimes this has saved me from stomach and IBS-C or SIBO problems. Eating lots of green grapes might be an alternative.
Cranberry juice (Just Cran by Knudson) is very helpful for elimination and urinary disturbance. Cranberry is the only fruit juice that stays acid in the system. It helps prevent bacteria, candida & other irritant fungi, and viruses from clinging to mucous surfaces in mouth, intestines and urinary tract. They just get flushed out. It also helps to increase B12 absorption in people with low stomach acid.
Customer Reviews on Amazon - Oxy-Oxy:
https://amzn.to/2NmMYNq
Amazon.com: Customer reviews: Oxy-Oxc (Magnesium Peroxide) 180 caps
Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Oxy-Oxc (Magnesium Peroxide) 180 caps at Amazon.com. Read ...
Copy from one Review: Seems to help when I've got any type of weird gut stuff going on. just need to take it on an empty stomach.. wait until the food clears the stomach then take two with a full glass of water and it seems to clear up all types of GI symptoms. They help with my SIBO related Tinnitus as well. I take two first thing in the morning on and empty stomach and two at night on an empty stomach and two on an empty stomach anytime during the day that the gut seems unhappy.
I have a lot of tricks that make your stomach feel better, whether you have an ulcer or not.
I'll write some here:
Mesquite powder put 1/2 tsp in your mouth at a time and wash down with a little herb tea, repeat 2 times, tastes good and very soothing for stomach - My Amazon link: Organic Mesquite Powder (Flour) - 1 lb - Healthy Flour Alternative For Baking, Smoothies, & Recipes - All Natural Source Of Fiber & Minerals - Raw, Non GMO, Gluten Free, Vegan, & Kosher
$9.99
Organic Mesquite Powder (Flour) - 1 lb - Healthy Flour Alternative For B...
Our Certified Organic Raw Mesquite Powder (Flour) comes from the beautiful, mineral rich forests of Argentina. T...
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
MY SPECIAL TEA MIX:
for IBS and bloat, helps on empty stomach, too:
Pomegranate - White Tea (Trader Joe), Yogi - Super Antioxident Green Tea, + 1/4 tsp Raspberry leaf, +
1/4 tsp kelp powder in hot water - sip some - then add 1/4 cup Simply Limeade,
and add following 4 Items:
1/4 tsp Jarrow D-Ribose - Amazon link: Jarrow Formulas Ribose, Supports: Muscle Recovery,Energy,Endurance, 200 g (7.05 OZ)
Jarrow Formulas Ribose, Supports: Muscle Recovery,Energy,Endurance, 200 ...
Ribose is one of the necessary building blocks for the formation of ATP; the "universal" energy molecule in the ...
1tsp Energy Revitalization - Amazon link: Enzymatic Fatigued To Fantastic Energy Energy Revitalization, Tropical Citrus Delight Flavor, 24.8-Ounces
$32.24
Enzymatic Fatigued To Fantastic Energy Energy Revitalization, Tropical C...
Fatigued to Fantastic! Energy Revitalization System including B Complex, Vitality, health and lasting energy!
1/2 tsp or more, Chlorella Manna - Amazon link: Chlorella Manna - 300g - Powder
$44.95
Chlorella Manna - 300g - Powder
Chlorella MannaBroken Cell Wall Chlorella Powder Hard-Core Green AlgaeIncredible source of full spectrum, non-to...
1 packet Ener-C - Amazon link: https://amzn.to/2ZfeB1c
- - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
----- Forwarded Message -----
From: carol
To: "chucksolomon@yahoo.com"
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019, 7:02:29 AM PDT
Subject: Ulcer
I can’t seem to get onto minutus through my phone and I think I changed things enough that I won’t be able to get on there with my computer. But I wanted to say that I had ulcer last fall. Took the antibiotics for two days and said no way. I ended up taking mastic gum(the pills) and manuka honey for 30 days and then two months later repeated that protocol . Several places on internet talk about this protocol . I also ordered the actual mastic chewing gum as that can kill h pylori trapped in mouth. Also got the dgl licorice suggested but didn’t use that often. If you google hpylori and mastic gum you’ll find plenty of info. My stomach issues stopped about a week later and have not returned. I never went back for another test, though . And I made mistake with the first batch of mastic gum pills the first month and only took two pills a day which was 1000mgs, and should have been taking 4 pills a day to equal 2000 mgs a day but did so two to three months later(which was recommended). But as I said the stomach issues passed after a week. I took the chewing gum as a precaution cause I’d heard of people where the hpylori cam back even after those vile antibiotics.. and thought maybe trapped in gums as well and that is how it returns. The chewing gum I had to buy off amazon is called Elma and comes from Greece . Mastic gum pills can be bought in most coops and some nutrition stores . I used the Jarrow brand. Hope this helps. Do I understand correctly that Ellen also has ulcer . You could pass this information onto her as well. It will take some expertise for me to figure out how to get back on minutus.
Sent from my iPhone