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In the US, any suggestions? Based on your experience.

Ellen Madono

Are you looking for anything specific, or just a source for items similar to what a US health food store sells?

Mountain Rose Herbs is great.
Also Avena Botanicals.
Best
Rebekah

Hi Rebekah,

I have bought from Mountain Rose before but never bought tinctures. They have always been very good.

I think there are also very small nurseries that produce tinctures. I was watching a video on YouTube of an old man who is nurturing community of gardeners. He is growing Chinese herbs.

It seems to me that the Chinese way of diagnosing and combining herbs is far superior to the western med. I tried for a time, but it was really overwhelming. Dr. Roz seems to be doing a very simplified method of Chinese medicine. It’s hard for me to imagine.

In his book Dr. Roz talks about using complements together. It sounds a bit like the Chinese way of combining herbs. Always a matter of balancing opposite but related forces.

In Answer to you Shannon,

I am now reviewing doctor Roz’s book on organic therapy, detoxification and drainage. I’m discovering it’s very helpful. Maybe I just wasn’t ready for it when I read it for the first time. Or maybe I started in the wrong parts of his books. I have a feeling that there is a order to read them in.

Instead of constantly buying herbs, when it’s possible, I would rather store the lowest potency. So if I start with a tincture and make my own potencies that’s fine. Or start with a 4X. Washington Homoeopathy sells 4 X. Hahnemann labs sells only as low as 6X. I’m also thinking of learning from Dr. Roz’s friends the Murrays. Apparently they have an online course. I think you have to use fresh herbs sometimes, but they teach how to use the low potencies instead of fresh tinctures. All the business transactions of buying things on the web are a bit exhausting for me. Lazy huh

I was in India about a year ago and I was so horrified by how awfully polluted it was. I don’t think I would buy tinctures from India. I wonder about low potency remedies.

I have always been happy with my Bengal Allen remedies. I wonder if that horrible pollution could affect them too.

Blessings,
Ellen

Just to clarify: I used the diagnostic tools of Chinese medicine as well as its principles of physiology.

I studied the herbs (twice!), but without a prolonged internship with a master herbalist who would explain each and every one of his prescriptions, I found it too difficult and complicated for my reptilian brain....so I use Western herbs (and those "borrowed" from TCM and Ayurveda) but with the added energetic approach as described for example in Holmes books' and Matthew Wood's ones
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

I agree with you, Dr. Roz. Tongue and pulse are accurate and easy to master if we stay at a shallow level. I don’t have a deep understanding, but what I know often helps with homeopathic diagnosis. I always look at the tongue and feel the pulse so of course my skill builds. Still Herbs and Chinese medical theory are evasive to me. Is my lack of understanding based on a lack of instruction? How would you know. ha ha. Anyway, whether I am doing body work or herbs, the same system should work at least for diagnostics and the same medical theory.
I can use the 5 element system which is the medical theory practiced by the Japanese for bodywork, but everything I know about Chinese herbs is based on the more complex system that the Chinese use (they actually all use both, groan). Which system are these books based on? Or are you not bothered by these differences?
Could you give some pointers about these books that you seem to refer to?


The Energetics of Western Herbs: A Materia Medical Intrgrating Western and Chinese Herbal Therapeutics: 1 and 2

May 1, 2007
by Peter Holmes


The Practice of Traditional Western Herbalism: Basic Doctrine, Energetics, and Classification

May 10, 2004
by Matthew Wood

The Earthwise Herbal, Volume II: A Complete Guide to New World Medicinal Plants Jul 05, 2011
The Earthwise Herbal Repertory: The Definitive Practitioner's Guide Kindle Edition
^^^^^^
It crosses my doubting mind that not many Chinese fall for the philosophy that the more you give, the more you get. That is certainly not always true, but it is possible that 2 internships were not enough because no teacher is trying very hard to give away their secrets.
Or giving away is not easy. (I am practicing Aikido where you learn to throw without touching. Or at least to feel and ride on the energy that is not transmitted by touch. If you never learn to throw that way at least you can learn to feel the qi or the distant thrower. In this case, I think the Aikido teacher wants to teach, but the technique is so internal that it is not easy to transmit.) Anyway, Qigong healing and the fine points of Chinese herbalism may also fit in that category.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono

Hi Ellen and all,

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Do you know what L-Theanine is good for? I didn't either.
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Ah, but you may not want to take it during the day cause it may make you sleepy, not good if you are driving or...

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Chuck, here:

Ya, but then I read this review and it shows that there are dangers - please comment if you would agree:

The quality of the supplement is good, very potent. My star rating is due to the side effects that I experienced. I have felt a little sick in my stomach drinking this in water. I usually sleep the entire night, but while taking this, my sleep was interrupted. I would wake up every couple of hours and have difficulty falling asleep again.
I have now read that while usually well-tolerated, M. pruriens can cause side effects, including abdominal bloating, nausea, vomiting, headaches, and sleeplessness. And even increased heartbeat, high blood pressure, hair loss, and symptoms of psychosis including confusion, agitation, hallucinations, and delusions. Additionally, upon thinking about it, as a healthy person, I don't want to grow dependent on a dopmine-increasing supplement.

Chuck, here:

Hope you find this information helpful for sources of herbs/supplements and I hope you find my links useful for finding customer reviews.

I love, use and treat with Homeopathy but also get a lot of help from herbs and natural supplements.
My dentist says I look and act 30 years younger than my actual age - He wants to do that to. So I am helping him.
Chuck
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Are you looking for anything specific, or just a source for items similar to what a US health food store sells?

Dear Chuck,

Sorry for sounding stodgy. But I am not into herbs found on the internet suggested by random people for whatever reason. I trust someone like Dr. Roz because I have known him for years and I know that he really researches what he suggests. He uses what he suggests first. He does some silly things too and he will be the first to laugh. So, I love that too.
I am really looking for a good place to buy tinctures where the seller has either a very good reputation like Mountain Rose, or even better, the seller is the producer and shows some integrity about his production process.

Best,
Ellen

Hi Guys
I like to take the complex and make it simple, ya, maybe.

I have had a long term problem with Irritable bowel - get a lot of help from homeopathy.
Quite some years ago, I had heard that doctors at Cedars Sinai were using some Chinese herbal combinations for IBS. Then later I found the doctor who taught the doctor at Cedars Saini. He is a regular MD and he is my doctor, when I need one: Steven Krems, MD at Access Medical (Cedars Saini)
Marina del Rey, California.
From: Health Concerns - many Chinese combinations

Isatis Cooling - Amazon link: https://amzn.to/2SGqG93 26 customer reviews says mostly for colds and clearing deep infections and I can say it helps my IBS - been using it for 15 years.

Flavonex - Salvia/Ginkgo + - Amazon link: https://amzn.to/2LXCcdM 10 reviews for colitis (1 for RLS).
Helps me to be stable for 15 years.

One reveiw: I have Ulcerative Colitis and I take these (Flavonex) along with RF Plus and Isatis Cooling. These herbs have put me back into remission within weeks. I am so grateful!

Another review:
Together with isatis cooling and RF Plus daily, this has put my severe ulcerative colitis in complete remission for 20 years.

Integrative Therapeutics: RF Plus - Amazon link: https://amzn.to/2LWif76 15 reviews - they are using it for digestion, colitis, gastritis. I used it too. Contains: Bromelain (2,400 G.D.U./g) 200 mg, Cabbage (Brassica oleracea var. capitata) Leaf 100 mg, Cranesbill Root Powder 100 mg, Goldenseal (Hydrastis canadensis) Root Extract 100 mg, Marshmallow (Althaea officinalis) Root 100 mg, Slippery Elm (Ulmus rubra) Bark 100 mg, NAG (N-acetyl D-glucosamine) 70 mg, Echinacea angustifolia Root Extract 50 mg.
Health Concerns - Enteromend (Enzyme Supplement) - https://amzn.to/2CVQoRJ 17 reviews. I use it, helps me.

Health Concerns - Quiet Digestion - Curing herbal supplement - https://amzn.to/2VB9X90

They're using it for digestion for people, dogs, cats, horses. Great reviews, written mostly by people.
Health Concerns has many Chinese combo's - but they don't tell you what they are for.
Please use my links and you can read the reviews and see how people are using the products.

I don't have to be a Chinese herbal expert, but I can be and I am an information expert. I find truth.
And I give it away for free. Hope it helps you.
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Chuck Solomon 310/395-5578 chucksolomon@yahoo.com
I agree with you, Dr.. Roz. Tongue and pulse are accurate and easy to master if we stay at a shallow level. I don’t have a deep understanding, but what I know often helps with homeopathic diagnosis. I always look at the tongue and feel the pulse so of course my skill builds. Still Herbs and Chinese medical theory are evasive to me. Is my lack of understanding based on a lack of instruction? How would you know. ha ha. Anyway, whether I am doing body work or herbs, the same system should work at least for diagnostics and the same medical theory.
I can use the 5 element system which is the medical theory practiced by the Japanese for bodywork, but everything I know about Chinese herbs is based on the more complex system that the Chinese use (they actually all use both, groan). Which system are these books based on? Or are you not bothered by these differences?
Could you give some pointers about these books that you seem to refer to?


The Energetics of Western Herbs: A Materia Medical Intrgrating Western and Chinese Herbal Therapeutics: 1 and 2

May 1, 2007
by Peter Holmes


The Practice of Traditional Western Herbalism: Basic Doctrine, Energetics, and Classification

May 10, 2004
by Matthew Wood

The Earthwise Herbal, Volume II: A Complete Guide to New World Medicinal Plants Jul 05, 2011
The Earthwise Herbal Repertory: The Definitive Practitioner's Guide Kindle Edition
^^^^^^
It crosses my doubting mind that not many Chinese fall for the philosophy that the more you give, the more you get. That is certainly not always true, but it is possible that 2 internships were not enough because no teacher is trying very hard to give away their secrets.
Or giving away is not easy. (I am practicing Aikido where you learn to throw without touching. Or at least to feel and ride on the energy that is not transmitted by touch. If you never learn to throw that way at least you can learn to feel the qi or the distant thrower. In this case, I think the Aikido teacher wants to teach, but the technique is so internal that it is not easy to transmit.) Anyway, Qigong healing and the fine points of Chinese herbalism may also fit in that category.
Blessings,
Ellen Madono

Thanks Chuck. Glad to know you. Yeah, those Chinese herbal combinations are pretty confusing. Good that you are finding help.
Best,
Ellen