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More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:23 pm
by Heidi
I had Lyme twice. Both times with a clear bull's eye / EM rash.

The first time, it took a few days for the obvious rash to form (but there was an itchy inflamed area at the center around the mosquito bite)

The second time, the EM rash occurred less than a day after the tick lodged for maybe an hour before I removed her before she even had a chance to 'engorge' as I found her due to the intense itch her bite caused.

Due to my ignorance and delayed response, the first rash took probably 2 years to fully disappear, and it did look like the tissue looked extremely bruised. At its height, the rash/injury reached into the muscle.

Heidi

Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 4:52 pm
by Tanya Marquette
As noted, Lyme is often not Lyme but other micro organisms that travel together or separately.

It is part of the reason we see such varied responses in how it looks on the body. A high % of people

do not get the bull eye rash at all--me being one of them
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Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:43 pm
by Ellen Madono
Has anyone treated homeopathically with success? If so what was your strategy?
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Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:37 pm
by Rebekah Azzarelli
I've successfully treated some cases of Lyme disease and know of others' success.
Just take the case and follow up.

Will Taylor wrote this great piece about the ericaceae family of remedies and how they are important in treating Lyme (and some coinfections, again, depends on the individual)

http://www.wholehealthnow.com/homeopathy_pro/wt11.html
He also presented a case from his old Maine practice of a kid with severe neurological symptoms in Lyme disease who lost his ability to read. He was on iv antibiotics and hospitalized. Will went out and gathered and prepared andromeda polifolia, a relative of ledum (also ericaceae). He now calls it "super ledum". It worked! I asked him for some of the remedy but he lost it in the move, none of the pharmacies carried it, so I went on a little expedition on Mt Desert Island in Maine and collected some and made a mother tincture. I didn't get a response from the pharmacies I offered to share it with, and might do the whole thing over again. At the very least I have it here and can potentize it if needed. Haven't seen a case that I think needs it yet.

I kinda wanted my cases to fall neatly into the ericaceae family (had a good rhododendron case) but of course there are many other possibilities, take the case!

This homeopath in the Hudson Valley has seen more cases than me and wrote a great article about treating Lyme and coinfections, with an excellent (and evidence based) critique of the heavy handed antibiotic use we see in these cases:

from Ron Whitmont:

https://www.homeopathicmd.com/2012/04/h ... e-disease/
https://www.homeopathicmd.com/2013/06/c ... s-answers/
Regarding tick bites, some times a bite will be infected at the site and that doesn't mean they have contracted one of the tick borne illnesses, it might be an allergic reaction, or sometimes a big tick will leave a bruise as they really dig into the skin. So I wouldn't go on the bite site alone but would look for other symptoms. If you see the erythema migrans that's more conclusive (though some cases never develop any other symptoms. is it worth it to give 6 weeks of antibiotics? that might guarantee the person gets sick)
I live in a Lyme endemic area so we tend to take a dose or two of ledum as prophylaxis after a tick bite. So far so good.

Best,
Rebekah

Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2018 7:08 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, all

I’ve treated more cases of Lyme than I care to recall. It’s a bit of a cottage industry in my part of the world, and I’ve had it myself many times.

Recently I’ve been confronted with a lot of what I call “failed Lyme” cases referred to me by alt-med practitioners. The diagnosis is Lyme (and often co-infections) — but that’s not what’s really going on.

These cases have all had a very complex medical history; Lyme, if the diagnosis is indeed accurate, is the least of their problems. In the past, I’ve found a lot of patients who have clear signs of chronic Lyme need Rhus-tox. I’m not the first homeopath to have made this observation: there must be an underlying susceptibility here, as with the Ericaceae remedies.

What I’m seeing now, however, are patients with numerous iatrogenic injuries, chief of which is massive gut damage from excessive antibiotic usage. Or patients who’ve NBWS receiving anti-malarials for babesiosis co-infection. (Herbal treatments can have the same effects.)

It’s not simply that the treatment is causing more problems instead of helping; it’s that the patients' underlying issues are not being addressed so their dis-ease just keeps intensifying. As usual, allopathic and “alternative” medicine are missing the forest for the trees.

So take the case of any “chronic Lyme” patient very, very carefully and in full awareness that you may be dealing with a diagnosis that’s become a dangerous catch-all and possibly garbage.

Peace,
Dale

Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:13 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi Dale,
Dale said: As usual, allopathic and “alternative” medicine are missing the forest for the trees.
Fascinating experience. Excess antibiotics has it own effects, but it is interesting other the tic animal poison history is the foundation for the tic poison.
How do you manage to sort out the forest as opposed to only the trees?
I am taking a course with Dr. Master now. He has been presenting multi morbid cases and cases where the immune system is severely suppressed. As usual, he reps so many symptoms that the repertorization is not informative. What he gets out of his repertorization misses my understanding, but he seems to think repertorization is important.
He mainly relies on his own insights. Typically he sees miasm, particular characteristics of a specific rare remedy, generalities of a well-known remedy, has the pattern of x remedy follows y remedy in the back of his mind, is very impressed by a modality which is not actually so characteristic except as it is unusual in the context of the syndrome, an age group or there must be more... I am trying to think of more. What other patterns am I missing?
Are you doing anything like Dr. Master? Possibly? Do you have a tactic for seeing the larger patterns (Forest) rather than getting fixated on specific symptoms or symptom groups (trees)?
Seems like you would not say this kind of problem is not multi-morbid. Rather, the immune system has been attacked several times. So, excess antibiotics are similar to repeated attacks of venoms. Hard for me to see the connection. Probably there is none. Don't know if you can easily group venom poisoning together as opposed to say chemical poisoning. Venoms are a cocktail http://www.eolss.net/sample-chapters/c03/e6-81-13.pdf They are in a different class than pure chemical. Apparently, antibiotics produce toxins https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 122421.htm but the damage is much more complex than just toxins.

Best,
Ellen Madono

Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 11:41 am
by Tanya Marquette
Speaking of Lyme--person decided to take abs out of anxiety (she is very anxious person). Has been having

bouts of high perspiration, dizziness, weakness. Yesterday she said it felt the perspiration was like menopause (she is age 39).

She also reports aggravation from the sun
Have had Lyme 2x treated holistically and encouraged her to do the same but she is too frightened.
My question is how common is this sweating and aggravation from the sun with Lyme. I dont think I have come across

these sx before and wonder if it is a reaction to the abs?
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Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 3:54 pm
by Dale Moss
Hi, Tanya & Ellen

Tanya, I think the reaction is caused by the antibiotics. Ask her what she took and check it for sun sensitivity

Ellen, I’m not sure how to answer your questions. Homeopathy is basically the art of pattern recognition, so I presume that someone like Dr. Master who’s seen thousands of people over the years has become highly attuned to different energy patterns. I know that when I face a patient whose energy is novel to me, I feel totally at a loss and it can take days of thinking about a case before I have that eureka moment.

Miasmatic prescribing is very important. I didn’t realize how important until I did some editing on the Herrick & Morrison book, Miasms of the New Millennium, which really opened my eyes. (I have no financial interest in the book and I highly recommend it. It includes an animal, vegetable, and mineral case for each miasm plus the language and concepts you’re likely to encounter in each.) Being able to think miasmatically helps me make sense not only of symptoms but of the patient’s behavior.

I tend to repertorize as I’m transcribing my notes, so I can end up with a lot of rubrics. Then it’s time to winnow out the less essential ones. As always, we need to look at what stands out about the patient, what is not typical of whatever disease he or she allegedly has. I try to look past the immediate symptomatology to see if there are consistent patterns through a patient’s history. Yes, there can be “layers,” but usually there’s a prevailing theme. As Herscu points out, you need to distinguish between an acute that’s a true acute and an acute that’s an exacerbation of a chronic state. Most of the Lyme patients I see fall in the latter category. And the vital force keeps sending out those messages (symptoms) until we’re able to interpret them correctly and give it what it needs to regain balance.

I don’t equate A/B even metaphorically with venoms. Some people are just sensitive to them, and that’s part of their overall picture. Being attacked by a venomous snake = true acute; having your gut ruined by A/B = acute exacerbation of a chronic state. At least in my opinion.

Peace,
Dale
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Re: More on insect bites and Lyme rash

Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2018 5:33 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Thanx Dale--you are confirming my thinking.

Funny, when I began studying homeopathy years ago it was taught that miasms were not very understood or important.

Years later, here came Sankaran and miasms seemed front and center. I did a course that focused heavily on them and they

finally came clear(er) to me. Still confusing some as several miasmic layers can simultaneously exist.

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