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measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:47 pm
by Ellen Madono
I am reading that
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lifelong immunity
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following
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measles shots
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should affect 96% of the population
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Japanese adults are being told to get measles boosters if they go abroad or are associated with women who could be pregnant.

This population should be vaccinated against measles. Why would they need boosters? Is this because 4% of the population does not maintain their immunity?

Ellen Madono

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:13 pm
by Sheri Nakken
There is NEVER immunity after a vaccine.

Vaccines inject a chronic case of those illnesses into your child and then they aren't able to throw them off and live with chronic cases of these diseases, causing many chronic and auto-immune illnesses. They can't get an acute case as already sick with a chronic case of it. They don't get measles because they are immune - the are too sick to 'get' an acute case of measles.

Antibodies after the vaccine are supposed to be proof the vaccine works...........but antibodies ONLY may mean immunity after having the disease in the normal way, not having it injected in, bypassing one whole part of the immune system.
a variety of links..................Antibody Theory
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/antibody.html
Sheri
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Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:56 am
by Ellen Madono
Thanks Sheri.
It turned out that rubella is the translation of the injection that they are told to get. We are told that the "immunity" from rubella shots is short-lived or uncertain.
If that is the case, why not just get natural rubella for all kids except for those with special conditions? Get live exposure when it is convenient for the mom. Or if the authorities are so concerned about days that parents lose from work, provide group care for kids who are building their immunity.

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 4:06 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
We used to do that: measles parties, chickenpox parties, with prizes for those who had the most spots on their bodies....great social interaction and lots of fun while keeping an eagle's eye on every child should he develop the start of complications.

Today, offering that is a very original way of committing suicide through public lynching.

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:39 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hi Dr. Roz,
Great. Actively watching for complications while working on a strong immune system. Probably more useful than current bodybuilding exercise.
Best,
Ellen

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:52 pm
by Tanya Marquette
I, too, remember parents putting their sick kids in one house while the parent took some personal time to shop or clean or whatever.

It was just an efficient method of getting thru the 'epidemic' in a community. No one worried about dying children as we all healed

in due time. We went to school with colds, too. Only a fever would keep you home. I had bronchitis and whooping cough simultaneously

for almost a year, undiagnosed. I took cherry flavored cough syrup which tasted good so I snuck doses of it and coughed my way thru

3rd grade. BTW, I was vaxx'd with DPT!

t

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:13 am
by Rochelle
I dragged my unvaxxed kids around everywhere anyone had mumps . I was desperate for my son to get it before puberty. He never did catch it and is in his 40’s now. I have never had it either so he must have got immunity from my milk. His father has had it.
Rochelle
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I, too, remember parents putting their sick kids in one house while the parent took some personal time to shop or clean or whatever.

It was just an efficient method of getting thru the 'epidemic' in a community. No one worried about dying children as we all healed

in due time. We went to school with colds, too. Only a fever would keep you home. I had bronchitis and whooping cough simultaneously

for almost a year, undiagnosed. I took cherry flavored cough syrup which tasted good so I snuck doses of it and coughed my way thru

3rd grade. BTW, I was vaxx'd with DPT!

t

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:23 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Some people have intense immune defences that neutralises "invaders" before an immune reaction can even happen.

Here is my Hepatitis B story: I was doing a rotation in orthopaedic surgery and the hospital decided that we should all get protected against Hep B; made sense, hands in blood all the time, risk of puncture with bone fragments and drills, etc,... I wanted to avoid it, so I tested my antibodies = nil.

So, first injection, control, nil antibodies; not unexpected; second injection, same result; third one, same...officially and legally I was "protected"...but I was not, so I decided to go for another round...after a total of 6 vaccines, still no antibodies; to this day, after spending time in emergency rooms in South Africa with hands in blood probably containing hepatitis, HIV and other nice beasts, not a single antibody "against" them.

I was vaccinated 3 times for smallpox when it was still mandatory for travelling: huge local reaction each time, no scar. Twice for TB, my Mantoux is still negative...so at least one thing has superpowers in my body...that is why it rejected my hair apparently.......

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:43 am
by Shannon Nelson
I managed to get mine chicken pox; preferred planning it for a less-inconvenient time, vs. having it come up e.g. as we were preparing a vacation etc. But for measles, we weren’t able to find a case anywhere! This was 20+ years ago.

Shannon

Re: measles longterm immunity???

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 8:20 am
by Ellen Madono
Rochelle,
You don't know if your son never had the mumps. The mumps may appear as a simple cold. That's why we don't necessarily know what we had. An adult with a cold, could be carrying something like the mumps and give it to someone. Natural events should be greeted with gratitude. Were that we all lived in such communities.
Ellen Madono