measles outbreaks

[Maria Bohle]

Can anyone give me information on disease outbreaks,
The CDC is claiming measles outbreaks are occurring due to foreign travel and people returning contaminating 'unvaccinated people who get the disease'

How reliable is the CDC on this.

The information I had was that the Disneyland outbreak was traced to the vaccination and infected 'vaccinated' children.

Can someone point me to a reliable source of information.

Note: this discussion started with my allopathic sister who believes CNN and the CDC.

happy to hear your comments.

Maria

[Sheri Nakken]

Hi Maria
You cannot trust anything CDC (or CNN says)
I'll find more info for you -its been awhile since Disneyland issue but will find
Ask your sister to prove what she is saying - why is it always us who have to prove them wrong
And what is so bad about measles
Sheri

At 10:40 AM 1/22/2018, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
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[Sheri Nakken]

you won't convince her of anything

https://www.globalresearch.ca/measles-o ... en/5431567

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3821823

Measles in US - 2014 & early 2015 (need to look at subsquent years - did this for my class a few years ago

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html What the CDC says

http://www.cdc.gov/measles/pubs-mmwr.html#outbreaks

http://news.sciencemag.org/health/2014/ ... first-time
April 2014 Measles Outbreak Traced to Fully Vaccinated Patient for First Time

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtm ... mm6322a4_w
Measles - United States, January 1­May 23, 2014
FROM MAY - first 6 months of the year..........."Most of the 288 measles cases reported this year have been in persons who were unvaccinated (200 [69%]) or who had an unknown vaccination status (58 [20%]); 30 (10%) were in persons who were vaccinated. Among the 195 U.S. residents who had measles and were unvaccinated, 165 (85%) declined vaccination because of religious, philosophical, or personal objections, 11 (6%) were missed opportunities for vaccination, and10 (5%) were too young to receive vaccination (Figure). "

NO DEATHS
http://politicalblindspot.com/data-reve ... on-trends/
Data Reveals Measles Outbreaks Have Nothing to Do With Non-Vaccination Trends
"Measles has been trending down, but in the past year it has spiked in the U.S. in spite of the trend of non-vaccination dropping a bit. Measles outbreaks have been happening all over the world in the past year, even and especially where there is no significant increase of anti-vaccination trends (Turkey, Vietnam, Philippines and several countries in Europe). It's up in California which likely is accounted for by the fact that there is so much travel in California from abroad. The 2013 case in Oregon? That was a traveller too, who had been in and out of international airports before contracting the disease. Same thing with New York City where outbreaks have been happening at a rate higher than the statistical norm.

States with the highest non-vaccination rates have not seen an increase in measles outbreaks that are statistically significant. News websites like to run with headlines that will get people to share, and vent outrage. But that doesn't make such articles a good source of scientific data. "
Their answer is to give more vaccine

NO VACCINE gives immunity ever
Look to our homeopathic principles
The disease has no way out when injected unless the body is finally able to overcome it. So it just goes round and round, causing damage, with no way out. You can't get an acute case of chickenpox or other disease vaccinated because you are already sick with that vaccinated disease on a deep level. If the body is successful at throwing it off, then you could get an acute case. So just because you don't see the disease out there as much anymore, does not mean everyone has immunity. Everyone is sick with those diseases on a deep level

it is something we understand as homeopaths. We can only get sick with one thing at a time - like you never get measles and mumps together for example. You have a chronic disease like alzheimers and you rarely will see any of them with acute illnesses like colds. The body is dealing with the strongest disease. Sometimes, though, an acute disease that comes along IS stronger than the chronic disease and then you see symptoms of the acute disease and the chronic disease goes in the background. You often see this with a child with autism - they actually 'get' an acute disease or a fever and they don't look as autistic - some even speak or other things - but then when the acute disease is better, they are back with the original symptoms of autism. But sometimes the acute disease can actually help to cure them. Its a concept that we know as homeopaths and see all the time. The body just doesn't produce symptoms for everything that come at it - only the strongest thing.

The disease has no way out when injected unless the body is finally able to overcome it. So it just goes round and round, causing damage, with no way out

for example with measles, we get concerned as homeopaths ( and doctors used to understand this too) - we get concerned if the rash is slow to come out as then measles is staying inside (rash is measles leaving) - staying inside and harming organs. These are the children (few of them) that were harmed by measles. Same thing with the vaccine - why you see auto-immune illness, gut and brain injury - it stays inside and no rash that it comes out in. That's why I'm happier when I see a rash after the measles vaccine - at least it is coming out - or some of it anyway.

So if we know a child has measles (harder to know these days - but used to know as other family members had too or knew was exposed or going around school )- if your child was sick and brothers and sisters had measles, but your child had no rash - doctors would have you give hot bath to help the rash to come out. Homeopaths have a remedy called Apis that we use to help it to come out also.

Hope that helps some
Sheri
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

In the world of ‘fake news’, put your trust in Fox News. You can be sure that they are not telling the truth, so take the opposite to be the case.

J

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 22 January 2018 17:45
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] measles outbreaks
Hi Maria
You cannot trust anything CDC (or CNN says)
I'll find more info for you -its been awhile since Disneyland issue but will find
Ask your sister to prove what she is saying - why is it always us who have to prove them wrong
And what is so bad about measles
Sheri

At 10:40 AM 1/22/2018, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Jean Doherty]

What I would like to know is the incidence of adverse events when there was a great No of children vaccinated in the Bristol area during an outbreak of measles some years ago.
Jean.

[Tanya Marquette]

The question is how are adverse events reported and recorded--two separate actions.

In the US only a miniscule number are recorded a) because most people don't know how to use the govt data base, and

b) because doctors also are ignorant of this data collection process and because they dismiss parent's reports of problems.

So whatever numbers we have here in the US are only, at best, 10% of the adverse event cases.

t

[Sheri Nakken]

NOT true anymore - that is how it used to be but all has changed. FOX is actually the ONLY mainstream media with true journalists now and telling the truth
Sheri

At 03:32 AM 1/23/2018, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Maria Bohle]

Fox news:

While I am taking a dim view of all news today, Fox is the ONLY news that will broadcast the WHOLE statements and the Whole think that is said.
the Fake news networks are taking sentences and happenings out of context and putting their own spin on what is being said.

Fox news also presents both sides of an argument, not just one side.

Stay tuned for some enjoyable listening - we can listen to this stuff and laugh or cry. I am trying to laugh over it. If I can not laugh I have to turn off the news.

I pray for our President and the USA, and hope he makes good decisions.
I pray for Gods will to be done which works out for the best for everyone.

Laugh, life is too short, we are living in historic times, be happy you are in the midst of much change and watch it with wonder and gratitude.

Warmly, Maria

[Sheri Nakken]

I agree with Maria
Fox Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham,The Ingraham Angle , Justice with Judge Jeanine are my favorites.
Fox used to be awful propganda but now excellent

I also listen to excellent citizen journalists on youtube who have come to the forefront during this era of fake news from all the others including BBC

Tracy Beanz
Jordan Sather - Destroying the Illusion
Michael Trimm
Judicial Watch
Sheri

At 09:20 AM 1/23/2018, you wrote:
Sheri Nakken, former R.N., MA, Hahnemannian Homeopath
http://homeopathycures.wordpress.com/ & http://vaccinationdangers.wordpress.com/
ONLINE/Email classes in Homeopathy; Vaccine Dangers; Childhood Diseases

[Maria Bohle]

Regarding Fox News, add the man who does the series
THE NEXT REVOLUTION to this list.

He outed big pharma and their 'game' in one of those.
He is incredible.

Maria