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Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:28 pm
by Rebekah Azzarelli
Hey Homeopaths,
Have you seen severely autistic people become neurotypical during fever? A colleague working on a case like this just asked me and I haven't seen it. Wondering what the collective experience of this group says?

Thanks!
Rebekah

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:18 am
by Shannon Nelson
Or another way of describing it is that a severe acute disease can (temporarily) suspend symptoms of the chronic disease. Or is this happening every time the person has even a mild fever? If so, that might be something different…?

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 5:30 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi Rebekah,
Look at Vithoulkas' Levels of Health to evaluate the situation. Several videos up on the web. I have book notes if that will help. But just severe autism is not enough to identify the level of health. A fever is a very useful hint for evaluation. Also, depends on when it is occurring in the treatment process.

Best,
Ellen Madono

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:07 pm
by Maria Bohle
Sheri, lets take this a little bit farther.

If the 'acute cold' is the stronger disease, then perhaps we need to look at the symptoms for 'THAT' disease to realize what is suppressing the chronic symptoms.

For instance, it is not a stretch to consider that inflammation is there, but not obvious in the patient's usual state.

How about we go after the 'suppressive acute' to find what the patient needs through the back door?

Warmly, Maria

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 7:57 pm
by Shannon Nelson
A related musing…

In treating an acute part of what we look for is the patient’s change of mental state since “healthy”, simply meaning since before this acute began.

But in this case, we wouldn’t use healthy attributes as symptoms (they are not strictly part of the acute); instead we would focus on the rest of the (acute) case; the physical symptoms and generals. ??
Shannon

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:05 pm
by Shannon Nelson
different how?

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:06 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Is it your thought that the “neuro normal” characteristics should be used as part of the remedy picture to address the acute?

Re: Neurotypical behavior in Autistic child during fever?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 8:12 pm
by Maria Bohle
What we know: The Acute was strong enough to suppress the chronic condition.

Therefor: The SYMPTOMS the acute is expressing (or maybe partially expressing) - is enough to temporarily eliminate the chronic, since two SIMILAR diseases cannot occupy the body at the same time, what is similar about this acute that makes the chronic go away?

We know most autism spectrum cases have a lot to do with the digestive system, And we do have to consider that something of this acute is silent (is it canceling out the chronic thus making both chronic and acute symptoms silent? So there may be a bit more to this than just what is being expressed by the patient.

So what are the COMMON SYMPTOMS OF THIS ACUTE the patient has, what is NOT showing up in his acute as we might have to consider that too.

it is a kind of go through the back door of the process -
here is a for instance:

Patient has a fever and cold, and perhaps diarrhea is usually part of that acute, but the patient does not have that symptom. So WHY not? Can we say the diarrhea part of the acute is masking the chronic problem, thus equalizing the energy of the acute and chronic condition to a more normal state. Patient improves, the possible diarrhea symptom (energy) is gone so the patient then again starts showing the chronic symptoms again.

Or patient has a fever and cold, the underlying problem is a sub acute inflammation that is interfering with whatever??? But the acute sx are so strong they are masking the chronic symptoms (like chickenpox can be masked by cowpox), and the chickenpox is suspended until the cowpox is cured and then the chickenpox returns).

Any other possible scenarios?

Either way, looks like a potential avenue to explore.

Maria