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survival twin syndrome
Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2017 11:06 pm
by Carol Orr
Has anyone ever heard of this? Where one of the twin's dies at a few months
and the survivor seems to have some kind of borderline personality disorder?
I have read some symptoms of this syndrome and one of them is to push others
away…through irrational argument or whatever…to re-experience the sense of
aloneness they experienced after the twin died. What importance would this
early experience have in choosing a remedy? What rubrics would one use?
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:16 am
by Dale Moss
I know of a case where a twin died in utero; his survivor, in her teen years, had severe colitis. It was a case of Mangialavori's, and as I recall he felt her grief was too deep ever to be verbalized. The remedy was Crocus sativa.
It makes sense to look at ailments from grief, from suppressed grief, etc. The pushing others away makes sense if the survivor has idealized the relationship with the twin. From the survivor's point of view, no one else is ever going to measure up.
Peace,
Dale
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Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:38 am
by Marilyn Harris
Could fear of being abandoned be part of the picture?
Marilyn
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 10:48 am
by Maria Bohle
This months Spectrum of Homeopathy discussed the death of a twin in utero, the article was written by Markus Kuntosck entitled: The Ups and Downs of Relationships. He feels Natrum Sulphuricum as the remedy for that syndrome.
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 12:01 pm
by Maria Bohle
Jurgen Weiland reported on a Nat Phos case for loss of a twin, also in Spectrum
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:40 pm
by Tanya Marquette
not sure about the abandonment question.
it seems more to me that a sense of their identity has been lost. there is something very unique
about sharing a womb for 9 months along with the DNA and whatever else. it feels more like a part of you
have been taken. not sure how to rep this out.
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Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2017 5:28 pm
by Marilyn Harris
Could be seen as abandonment/feeling alone if the surviving twin felt that (s)he needed support of the other twin in the womb during an unwanted or unhappy pregnancy.
If abandonment issues showed up later in the twin's life, that might be a pointer to what the surviving twin felt alone like in utero.
Marilyn
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 5:17 am
by Carol Orr
let me give some more details: The doctor suspected that when the twin boys
were born that they were actually attached at the spine in utero and broke
apart when the mother had a fall during pregnancy. One baby had a tail at the
end of the spine and the other had an indentation. When they were 3 months old
one of them was taken to the hospital with gastro-enteritus. The other child
cried at home non stop so they finally decided to take him to hospital where
he calmed down. But the other twin died eventually. Surviving twin grew up
third child with two older ones around 10 years older and a younger sister.
When he was around 5 the older brother had some issues with a neighborhood
family and left to live with his grandparents. The surviving twin saw his twin
brother..as a twin same age as him at the foot of his bed until he was ten.
Survivor had some weird form of dyslexia where letters would shake and gave
him a headache and as he was artistic no one in Northeastern England bothered
to address this problem. He was somewhat coddled by his mother and older
sister but really it was his older sister who mostly acted as the mother as
the mother worked. So I see 5 different abandonments occurring if you count
the disconnection in urtero. He seems to have some kind of dissociative
disorder with two different personalities. He has never acknowledged the
personality that acts like a two year old with temper tantrums…but several
people who have had long term contact with him have been goaded so badly that
they want to kill him. He has never been physically threatening. It is the
manner of his communication which is completely irrational and mean and nasty.
Like he is pushing others to fight him..it is as if a two year ego is in the
body of a man…The other personality is fun and clever and nice and wouldn't
hurt a fly and loves animals to death and helps people in need and very
interested in the politically scenes. A genius in some areas and a moron in
other areas , When he works on a project he will work ten hours without
stopping and sees himself as an artist and if he is treated as a simple
construction worker…his bad side can come out. He expects and demands
appreciation for his intelligence and if he doesn't get it and he can't get
away from the situation…the demon all come out. I think frustration of any
kind…when he has to depend on others…can inspire little episodes of the
demon…but if it goes on too long the demon comes out and won't go away. He
is like two completely different vibrations when in one or the other
character.
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:21 pm
by Nan Wood
Hello Maria,
If appropriate would you post the link to Marcus Kuntosck's article? The author's name doesn't bring up any results with a search. My twin died within 24 hours of birth. We were born at 26 weeks. I'd be interested in reading his perspective.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Nan Wood
Re: survival twin syndrome
Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:58 pm
by Maria Bohle
This too is in the Spectrum of Homeopathy Magazine.
To my knowledge there are no links.
Warmly, Maria
Both are in 2/2017? iSSN 1869 3091