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Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:01 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hi,
I am working with a 10-year-old autistic spectrum boy. He has heightened visual ability. When reading Steve Sutton's excellent article on clustering of water molecules, I saw an article on heightened auditory ability among autistic spectrum people.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... via%3Dihub
My young patient may have this source of auditory distraction as well. What I know is he has heightened visual ability.
I gave him Apis. Researching bee vision, I was amazed to read that the vision of bees is like my patient. He loves to ride trains to watch what I see as a blur of scenery. Apparently, I have low perceptual ability and I don't recall much of what I see from a train window. Like my patient. bees are able to sweep over a wide spread of visual scenery and to perceive the pattern that will help them to get home and to go back to the flower that gave the great nectar. My patient does not have any good use for his hyper-visual perception, but he clearly is thrilled by rapidly moving scenery. I gave Apis for different reasons. (hot, busy, demanding, intolerant of contradiction, narrowing of the throat, shortness of the tongue, inability to move the tongue to swallow, and other modalities). Apis does not seem to be helping him according to the report of the mom. I want to actually see the boy myself, but I suspect the mom is trying to avoid extra cost by talking with me on the phone or email. (sigh. What should I do?).
I thought about Vespa ala Manialavori, but it did not fit so well. He loves to be at home and clings to his family members.
I am thinking that his love of watching a movie doubling or tripling the speed or riding a train or bicycle should be something that I can repertorize. Spinning around in a circle gives him a similar visual thrill.
Not dizzy in situations where he should be dizzy is not a rubric.
Any ideas for repertorization? The auditory hyper perception is also common, so we would wish for a rubric.
I know. There was no autism in Hahnemann's day. Groan.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:05 pm
by Rochelle
Ellen just tell Mum you can’t find an accurate prescription unless you take a full case history with the child there as you have to observe the child. No way would I prescribe for someone I have not seen. I sometimes say , if asked, that my Society of Homeopaths would not allow it.!!
You are a professional so you need to charge a patient for your time and effort.
Rochelle
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Subject: [Minutus] autistic heightened visual perception
Hi,
I am working with a 10-year-old autistic spectrum boy. He has heightened visual ability. When reading Steve Sutton's excellent article on clustering of water molecules, I saw an article on heightened auditory ability among autistic spectrum people..
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... via%3Dihub
My young patient may have this source of auditory distraction as well. What I know is he has heightened visual ability.
I gave him Apis. Researching bee vision, I was amazed to read that the vision of bees is like my patient. He loves to ride trains to watch what I see as a blur of scenery. Apparently, I have low perceptual ability and I don't recall much of what I see from a train window. Like my patient. bees are able to sweep over a wide spread of visual scenery and to perceive the pattern that will help them to get home and to go back to the flower that gave the great nectar. My patient does not have any good use for his hyper-visual perception, but he clearly is thrilled by rapidly moving scenery. I gave Apis for different reasons. (hot, busy, demanding, intolerant of contradiction, narrowing of the throat, shortness of the tongue, inability to move the tongue to swallow, and other modalities). Apis does not seem to be helping him according to the report of the mom. I want to actually see the boy myself, but I suspect the mom is trying to avoid extra cost by talking with me on the phone or email. (sigh. What should I do?).
I thought about Vespa ala Manialavori, but it did not fit so well. He loves to be at home and clings to his family members.
I am thinking that his love of watching a movie doubling or tripling the speed or riding a train or bicycle should be something that I can repertorize. Spinning around in a circle gives him a similar visual thrill.
Not dizzy in situations where he should be dizzy is not a rubric.
Any ideas for repertorization? The auditory hyper perception is also common, so we would wish for a rubric.
I know. There was no autism in Hahnemann's day. Groan.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:40 pm
by Dale Moss
I agree with Rochelle. I, too, refuse to see anyone who is unwilling to come for an initial interview. And for a follow-up as well, unless they live many states away. Once you have a good sense of the patient and a fully-taken case, you can prescribe for subsequent acutes over the phone.
Peace,
Dale
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:37 am
by Ellen Madono
I did the initial interview in person. And another one. I just have not seen the boy since November. I gave F potencies. Maybe I should not have given them the whole series. Wait for them to get to a certain point and require them to come in for the rest.
No ideas for love of zooming scenery?
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:40 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
If the remedy is correct, there is no reason not to give the full sequence.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 8:30 am
by Ellen Madono
Thanks, Dr. Roz,
I feel that the whole F potency series has been so unproblematic with all my patients so far (about 20 I don't have my remedies here to count), then giving the full sequence is pretty safe.
When the patient is having no problems with the remedy and the mom (who can't be expected to fairly evaluate the remedy) says there is no progress, would you say finish the series just to check to see if the higher potency doesn't do more? That's my logic. Finish the series and if the remedy is doing no harm but also not doing much good, at least we are sure that potency is not the reason why the remedy did not do more. At that point, insist on seeing the patient.
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 12:53 pm
by Dale Moss
His is an interesting symptom, but you may have difficulties finding a homeopathic handle for it. Your description of a bee’s vision seemed very appropriate, yet Apis did not work. What about other insect or animal remedies? Buteo has heightened perception of movement, but I would assume, given the source, that means the ability to detect slight movement. You might look at some of the other predatory birds, like Eagle and Great Horned Owl, as they also have heightened visual senses.
Another tack might be to explore, insofar as you can, what he finds appealing in watching the scenery flash by. Maybe he does like the blur of color (Anhalonium).
Peace,
Dale
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 2:59 pm
by Elham Mohajer
Think of Anholinum also, I have cured a few cases with that medicine it produces visual and aural hallucinations in the proving
Best y
Elham
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:21 pm
by Ellen Madono
Dear Dale,
That is a very good inspiration. I just read Shore's Birds. Although, the visual ability of a bird whose eyes are much like ours (think???) and the compound eye of an insect which depend on additive pattern recognition (Each eye sees a slightly different version and the brain adds the different version together). The bird is spotting detail from a distance. He must be fantastic with detail. He can put together a complex puzzle when all the pictures are facing the table. Also, he starts in the middle of the puzzle and does not rely on the straight edges and corners the way we would. He is an infant savant who has trouble talking, swallowing and learning. The learning problems come from being so obsessive and rigid. I am told that it is very common among autistic spectrum kids, but when I first met him, he would not put his hands in a box of beans to find some object because he could not see through the beans. Many weird problems related to what fear of what is not visible.
Some birds have a love of nest and immediate family which he shares.
Probably these little peculiarities are not nearly as important as very mundane modalities. We only find the fit the detail fits later when we find we have a working remedy.
Best,
Ellen
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2018 3:24 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hmm So these "mistakes of perception" are hallucinations. That shakes up my thinking. But, yes that makes sense. I will look into it. I am glad I asked you all. Thank you.
Ellen Madono