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Remedy lifetime

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 6:09 pm
by Feras Hakkak
Hi,
I asked a homoeopathic pharmacy in India, to see
whether remedy globules have lifetime or not (Please
read the text below). Do you have any comments?

Thanks,
Feras Hakkak
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Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2002 9:00 pm
by Dave Hartley
Hi,

I know of several people using very old "dry" remedies on occasion, & have
heard that someone had even had the opportunity not too many years ago to
use "dry" remedies that had belonged to Hahnemann ... with good success.
I think it is accepted as true that dry pillules will remain effective for a
very long time, far longer than a lifetime- but if they get all sticky
because of very wet climate or improper storage / handling, then you don't
have pillules anymore- you have a solid mass, or even a bunch of goo. I
have opened the vial in dry climate to dry out some pillules that became
previously stuck together with moisture, then resealed the vial and
succussed it a couple of times & the pillules were un-stuck and could be
used normally.

regards,

Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 5:03 pm
by Dr.Sahni BS
Dear dave,
even you can use the sticky matter by dissolving in drinking water, it
always work.
Regards,
dr.sahni
www.homoeopathyclinic.com

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2002 9:25 pm
by Dave Hartley
Hi Dr. Sahni,

The only problem there is that it becomes difficult to know the size of the
dose.

regards,
Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:39 pm
by Dr.Sahni BS
Dear Dave,
Dose is not the problem.It is the same situation if you prescribe in pills
or in water. The quantity does not make any change in the properties of the
medicine.It is the repetition which makes a difference. So either it is 3
pills or one tea spoon of medicine water, it has the same effect.
Regards,
Dr.Sahni
www.homoeopathyclinic.com

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Mon Jul 01, 2002 7:39 pm
by Dr.Sahni BS
Dear Hakak,
The whole theory of changing globules depends upon the quality of globules.
One must assure that globules are made from Pharmaceutical sugar (sulphur
and Carbon free) and not from sugar cane. The best way to check this is "if
the globules start turning to yellow shade", the chances are there that
these are made from non pharmaceutical grade sugar.
Dr.Sahni
www.homoeopathyclinic.com

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 8:33 am
by Dave Hartley
Hi Dr. Sahni,

There is an erroneous idea that the size of the dose is not an important
part of homeopathic posology.. which has been found by many to be untrue.

You might enjoy reading

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... yNASH.html

http://www.simillimum.com/Thelittlelibr ... anger.html

regards,

Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 2:27 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Dave and all,

While I've come to agree that size-of-dose is *not* irrelevant, even
with Cs, I do think that experience supports the idea that in *most*
cases there is a very, very wide range of dose that will still be okay,
and that Dr. Sahni's position would work out just fine for the vast
majority of people and situations. While you wouldn't want to eat the
entire chunk of solidified pills, if you did, it would probably work
without causing any problem; and if you scrape of a bit of the chunk, to
take either dry or in water, that too would probably work fine.

LMs are apparently more dose-sensitive, but Cs are awfully forgiving in
that respect.

On the one hand, the belief that "dose doesn't matter" certainly
explains some of the aggravations that some people have taken as
"normal"; but on the other hand, during the decade or so that I gave and
took remedies in doses of any ol' size (having been taught that dose
didn't matter), I *still* saw hardly any aggravations. (The major ones
I did see, tho, came in an oversensitive child after she got doses
consisting of an entire "single dose" tube of 1/2 dram -- hundreds of
pills. I shudder at the memory, both of the dose and of the two aggs...)

That said, I heartily agree that David's articles on the subject are
worth a look -- ought to be required reading for all!!!

Cheers,
Shannon
Dave Hartley wrote:

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Tue Jul 02, 2002 5:17 pm
by Dr.Sahni BS
Dear dave,

Looks-like you have misunderstood my comments on "Dose". What I do mean to
say is if you take "Aconite 30" in about 25gm qty. at one time and the same
in qty. wise 3 or 4 pills rather than 25 gm qty. it has the same effect as
in homoeopathy there is no material/quantitative dose except in lower
triturations and mother tinctures where quantitative dose makes a BIG
DIFFERENCE.

The same rule is applicable to the dose when it is mixed in water. So far
repetition of dose is concerned it entirely depends on the situation of the
case and the personal experience of the attending physician.

I have visited the links as suggested and from there I presumed your
hypothesis and a new nomenclature "Hahnemann's Classical homoeopathy". So
far I know there is only One Homoeopathy and it was invented only by
Hahnemann; practiced worldwide.

Regards,
Dr.Sahni

Re: Remedy lifetime

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2002 3:35 am
by Dave Hartley
Hi Shannon,

"most cases" assessed according to "probability" do fall within a sort of
Bell Curve distribution in the 1:1000 sensitivity range, with 1 and 1000
being quite extreme.

Nevertheless, what is important, as always in homeopathy, is knowing that we
are dealing with an INDIVIDUAL, not a statistical likelihood.

In order to avoid the occasional annoying aggravations that you've
witnessed, as well as the one or two terrible ones, it is necessary to put
to rest the erroneous ideas concerning size of dose.

If one person in 1000 is so sensitive that what would "probably" be a minor
aggravation at most for "most" of the others.. would, for this one person be
a life-threatening situation... don't we have the stringent obligation of
knowing this, and if we haven't seen evidence of this.. at least to open
our minds, eyes, and ears (perhaps even heart) when others report their
experience?

For that 1 (or more accurately, perhaps 50) out of 1000 persons who are so
sensitive that my or your "minor aggravation" could be untold misery.. we
must ethically & morally take responsibility for carefully following the
founding dictum of homeopathy which states:
similia minimus, minimum dose of homeopathic remedy.

Better to err on the side of caution than to make excuses based on
statistical probability after thoughtlessly creating the one in 1,000
deathly aggravation, don't you think?

regards,

Dave Hartley
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284