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question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:40 pm
by Tanya Marquette
hi

Opened a bottle of remedy today--It was a new remedy from Helios.

The to of the bottle had a small clump of the pellets that were solid
and would not shake free.

Needed the remedy so sterilized a needle a bit and used it to punch thru
this 'clump. The remaining

pellets were lose in the bottle.
My concern is that the liquid remedy put into the bottle may not have
been mixed in and am wondering

if this is a common/known problem and did people find the remedy useful
or not.
thanks

t'

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:07 pm
by Ginny Wilken
If any of the liquid was in contact with any of the pellets, at any juncture, I’d call it good. Even the propinquity of pellet to liquid should be enough, I would think.

ginny
All stunts performed without a net!

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 8:34 pm
by Allen Coniglio
The only pellets that you know are most likely good are the solid clump at the top. Touching of one dry pellet to another could not possibly guarantee a transfer of energy to all the rest - in my opinion. Liquid to liquid would transfer energy but not dry. If I were you and to be sure I would dissolve the whole clumped group into a 2 or 4 ounce dropper bottle or other container thus making a sort of liquid potency. Unfortunately, you will not know for sure if this liquid is now a 30C, a 31C, or even something else because of the extra liquid. The liquid solution will now probably work but what is it? You could put a quantity of alcohol in it - pure vodka will do - as a preservative and label it and hold onto it for your own use or for others always keeping in mind that it is a sort of Frankenstein remedy. Or, you could use the liquid remedy to medicate the remainder of the pills in the bottle but again, you are not going to know if the liquid is still a 30C or whatever. Anytime you medicate like this with a few drops from a liquid solution, you must have at least 75% or more alcohol. I do not use less than 80%. If you use less, the water will soak into the pills and make a big clump of pills. And you must always dissolve the pills in water as a larger quantity of alcohol will not dissolve them and you will have the pills stuck in the liquid in the bottle for days. Because of all of this uncertainty, I would explain to the company what you found and ask for an exchange. In my mind, it is almost certain that the liquid did not get past the clump that you found.

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 9:40 pm
by Tanya Marquette
That was my concern exactly that the clump was the only known medicated pellets.

However, others seem to think if in the bottle it was all medicated.

I am not concerned about altering the potency slightly which sound heretical to some.

I am using the remedy in the garden and a slight variation of potency is not going to matter methinks.

Will keep your note and see. Will also contact helios to see what they say but they may not respond to

an email quickly.
thanks

t

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:36 pm
by Allen Coniglio
If the variation in potency will not matter - it would not matter to me - then I would just dump everything into a container of water and use that container as my mother tincture of sorts from which you can "seed" other containers of liquid.
I am interested to hear that you are using this in the garden. Is it Sulphur? I have been using a sort of container of water with a Sulphur potency formed by dissolving several pills in water with inconclusive results. I have been using it on plants with leaf problems, fungus, etc.. I would be interested to know if anyone has had any success with such practices.

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:48 pm
by Tanya Marquette
We had a wonderful man, Kaviraj Vaikunthath, who was a world renowned agrohomeopath.

With several decades of experience/research he was a jewel that was very generous in sharing his information

on the ARH homeopathy for plants group. He wrote what I think is the first book on using homeopathy for plants.

I followed a number of his suggestions and had some excellent results. The particular remedy I was asking about
was Helix t for slugs. Altho recommended for snails, from which it is made, it never worked for them. But definitely

for slugs in my garden. Aconite was great on a house plant that had caught a chill and was dying. 20" and it perked
back. There are other good exeriences, too, for me. Am looking for a remedy now for striped cucumber beetles, or the

bacterial wilt it causes which kills once the plant is infected.
t

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:44 am
by Allen Coniglio
Have you looked up "agrohomeopathy" on the internet? There is a ton of results including the man you mentioned. He apparently died a few years ago. However, I found a great site that speaks of him and his work so I am going to be spending a few hours there. http://homeopathyplus.com/agrohomeopath ... omeopathy/ I am happy that we had this discussion today as I have had another door opened for me. Thanks.

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 1:02 am
by Tanya Marquette
Alan--do spend time reading Kavi's posts. He was brilliant. It was such a shock to me when he died as
there was no news being broadcast of his illness. He had had cancer which he self cured but think he

had another bout which came up very quickly as I understand it. I am hoping his family and close

homeopathic people put his notes together for publication. He was a brilliant and generous man.
t

Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:12 am
by rochellemarsden
The last time I saw kavI and we chatted over dinner he was very gaunt but didn't let on about cancer returning. He died soon after which was quite a shock. If I search my hard drive I must have lots of notes on our discussions
I know that somewhere I have his protocol for how many pillules to put in a gallon of water to put on my plants

Rochelle
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Re: question about damaged remedy

Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:41 pm
by Tanya Marquette
I have his protocol, too.

He recommends 100 pillules/5 gallons of water.

I need smaller amounts so use 20 pellets in a Qt of water, succuss and add to 3 qts of water = 1 gallon.

He also used liquid remedies.

I was horribly shocked by Kavi's death and still miss him. We never met in person but there were things

in his life that ran parallel to mine and we seemed to be in synch politically as well. I felt very connected to
him.
You were so fortunate to have had a face-to-face connection with him. Do you plan to try and write up your

notes of your conversations with him?
t