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Claudication

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:39 pm
by Carol Orr
My husband has constant pain in his right lower calf from on-going
claudication but which got worse from two trips in 10 days of nine hours long
each way. I tried arnica every day watered for a week with no change...30c.
Sometimes but not always the pain will move to the left side. I've thought of
lycopodium and lachesis. He just started a stat and platal a few days ago. It
is my last chance to try something. He is better with pressure...crossing the
leg that has the pain, very competitive and intense person, industrious,
addicted to political news and he is cutting down on his smoking. I'm not
asking for advice on what to take as I know that is not allowed. But I'm
wondering what dose I would give...6x or 6c or 30 or higher. I'm worried that
once he gets going on these meds I won't dare give him anything. I don't even
know why he is on the stat since his cholesterol isn't high. I think it is
calcium deposits from all the milk he drinks(for which I gave him vit k2
whenever I could get him to take it.) Any advice about potency?

Re: Claudication

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:55 pm
by Victoria Mashevsky
Did they tell you if the problems are more with his veins or with his arteries?

Re: Claudication

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:30 pm
by Carol Orr
I don't know if it is the veins or arteries. He is seeing a vascular doctor in
two weeks. They are trying to see if the medications help him in the next two
weeks. His doctor is supposed to call me sometime today...I'll ask him.

Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:18 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
What is "stat and platal"?

Does he have good pulses on the foot and at the back of the medial malleolus?

Is there any colour change?

Joe.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:40 am
by Carol Orr
Third day of the Platal and his pain is pretty much gone which is pretty
amazing. It is his arteries that are affected. He has given up cigarettes for
the moment and therefore he doesn't drink his milk based coffee all day long
cause they went together. Now will have to do some experiments...as in did one
day of not smoking and drinking all that milk help him...or was it the platal
for three days. And will quitting the platal make a difference. I can't see it
as good that the docs suggest he take it for the rest of his life.

Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:09 am
by Hennie Duits
Probably:

Pletal
GENERIC NAME(S): CILOSTAZOL

Hennie

Op 12-4-2016 om 1:18 schreef 'Dr. J Rozencwajg, NMD' jroz@ihug.co.nz
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Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:11 am
by Hennie Duits
and stat = statins?

Op 12-4-2016 om 1:18 schreef 'Dr. J Rozencwajg, NMD' jroz@ihug.co.nz
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Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:36 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Thanks. We do not have that in NZ, but a quick search showed this:
Adverse Effects
Headache (27-34%)

Diarrhea (12-19%)

Abnormal stools (12-15%)

Infection (10-14%)

Rhinitis (7-12%)

Pharyngitis (7-10%)
1-10%
Dizziness (9-10%)

Palpitations (5-10%)

Peripheral edema (7-9%)

Back pain (6-7%)

Dyspepsia (6%)

Abdominal pain (4-5%)

Tachycardia (4%)

Increased cough (3-4%)

Myalgia (2-3%)

Atrial fibrillation (<2%)

CHF (<2%)

MI (<2%)

Hematemesis (<2%)

Ecchymosis (<2%)

Blood in eye (<2%)

Epistaxis (<2%)

Hemoptysis (<2%)

Nausea
Frequency Not Defined
Decreased platelet aggregation

Agranulocytosis

Aplastic anemia

Leukopenia

Thrombocytopenia

Stevens-Johnson syndrome
Postmarketing Reports
Blood and lymphatic system disorders: Agranulocytosis, aplastic anemia, granulocytopenia, thrombocytopenia, leukopenia, bleeding tendency

Cardiovascular: Torsades de pointes, QTc prolongation

GI: GI hemorrhage

General: Pain, chest pain, hot flushes, extradural or subdural hematoma, hyperglycemia, hyperuricemia, increased BUN, elevated BP, decreased platelet or white blood cell (WBC) count

Hepatic: Hepatic dysfunction, abnormal liver function tests, jaundice

Neurologic: Intracranial or cerebral hemorrhage, cerebrovascular accident (CVA)

Respiratory: Pulmonary hemorrhage, interstitial pneumonia

Skin: Subcutaneous hemorrhage, pruritus, skin eruptions such as Stevens-Johnson syndrome, skin drug eruption (dermatitis medicamentosa)

Vascular: Subacute thrombosis
Basically it inhibits plateletss aggregation and is a vasodilator....with a nice collection of potential side effects.
Better do the same safely with Hawthorne (I suggest the Gemmotherapic Crataegus, 15 drops/day) garlic, ginger and proper diet.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.

"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz

Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:42 am
by Shannon Nelson
On googling, it looks like the drug works by dilating the arteries. I wonder whether cayenne capsules would help, since they also do that? I have a dim memory of butchers broom herb being used for something like that, maybe. Has he tried any herbal things?

http://www.medicinenet.com/cilostazol/article.htm

Re: Claudication

Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:41 am
by Jean Doherty
Could Cactus Grand be used as well as the Crataegus ? Jean