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so-called polio causes - Man found to have been shedding virulent strain of polio for 30 years | Science | The Guardian

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:12 pm
by Shannon Nelson
This is especially interesting to me:
One of the wonderful things about Vitamin C, is that it can help such a wide variety of issues, in such a variety of ways. In particular, it is a key treatment for *both* toxic and "infective" situations. My own most interesting (to me, at least) experience with Vitamin C was when I got mumps at age 21. Short story:
(a) Most painful thing I have EVER been through, wondering if my neck might explode, literally a bit delirious with pain.

(b) infirmary nurse flatly refused to have someone bring me Vitamin C, because in her opinion it could not possibly help. (So why humor me, oh well.)

© Later that day, my very-Vitamin-C-believing mother drove four hours to pick me up (since the school year was over, and I would not be permitted on a train), started immediately stuffing me with (?) I think 2,000 mg of it every hour of the drive -- and

(d) By the time we got home, I was nearly all well again. (And roundly cursing the poor nurse in my mind!)

And yes, Vitamin C as a cure for polio I am familiar with; says nothing about infective or no, Vitamin C being what it is.

But anyway, reading on...

Re: so-called polio causes - Man found to have been shedding virulent strain of polio for 30 years | Science | The Guardian

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 4:19 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Well, again, I have never tried to defend pesticides, nor argue that they don't cause neurological havoc, nor that the term "polio" has not been applied to symptoms that may have come from various causes.

I have in NO way been trying to defend vaccinations; there have been no vaccinations in my house.

But if we say that there is no "contagious" component, that it has nothing to do with any virus, that is what I object to.

What percentage of apparent or so-called polio cases can be explained as chemical related, and what percentage can be traced to "contagion", that would be an interesting thing to explore *without bias*. Again, the episodes where polio was apparently transmitted to a previously healthy adult, apparently by the vector of a newly vaccinated baby, I would find those difficult to explain as chemical related.

And since they come from an anti-vaccine perspective, it's also hard to explain them as fear-mongering by the pro-vaccine folks.

Shannon

Re: so-called polio causes - Man found to have been shedding virulent strain of polio for 30 years | Science | The Guardian

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 9:34 pm
by Shannon Nelson
To prove any of that is way beyond my capacity, as you know.
However, it's easy to google up electron micrograph pictures that are *said* to be of polio virus. Can I prove that the association isn't a lie or an error? No I can't.
I too would be interested to know; having a quick google, here's one where the infection was 30 years ago -- father apparently infected while changing his daughter's diaper -- and in 2009 he won a large settlement for it.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sta ... e-1.369105

Another case is mentioned here: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-0 ... -vaccine/2
And one from England: https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 0917&hl=en

Googling "polio changing diaper" brought these up, and others.
I gather it has been uncommon, but there have been other cases too, and both sides -- pro- and anti-vaccine -- seem to have accepted that evidence, that with the "live" vaccines, viruses are shed, and the disease can be passed.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid= ... 0917&hl=en
When you get it from changing a diaper -- or (another situation that's been in the news more than once) from sharing a swimming pool with a newly vaccinated baby whose diaper got poopy in the pool, what are the alternative explanations, other than either virus or bacteria?

Re: so-called polio causes - Man found to have been shedding virulent strain of polio for 30 years | Science | The Guardian

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:51 am
by Ginny Wilken
Right you are, Sheri! I don’t want to try to help anyone who is not starving for more truth, more knowledge, more power over one’s own body and health. Just write them off! Too many - too little time. Animals are truly innocent and truly grateful:)

ginny

All stunts performed without a net!

Re: so-called polio causes - Man found to have been shedding virulent strain of polio for 30 years | Science | The Guardian

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:08 am
by Irene de Villiers
And shoes are often worn there too.
So I propose that polio is caused by wearing shoes, not by DDT and pesticides.

Same "logic" for those who prefer to pretend viruses do not exist.
They also eat specific foods there. So therefore the foods are the cause.
Same logic (or lack thereof)
..Irene
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